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Time Warner Cable and Navigator Issues

We will continue to stay on top of the Time Warner Cable story even though the company refuses to answer our questions and your questions about DVR problems.  The problems are well documented and are happening in more than just the KC area. The DVR Navigator issues prompted the City Council in Lincoln, Nebraska, to hold special meetings on the issue.

While the concerns have not reached that level here in KC, I have repeatedly heard from upset customers about the problems they're experiencing with their DVR. The biggest frustration seems to be the lack of a response from Time Warner. I've been asked over and over why they released the Navigator software here in KC, if they knew it was causing problems in other markets. It's a question we tried to get Time Warner to answer.

Like every story, we do our research and then call the corporation. When I called Time Warner Cable's local spokesman, he eloquently spoke about the Navigator issue. He told me there were lots of internal tests with Navigator before rolling it out. In fact, Time Warner's own employees tested the software.  The spokesman said the errors and glitches were fixed. We were told Time Warner is in the refining stage with Navigator and it was actively making upgrades and patches. It was explained to me that this should be thought of like a computer. Computers always need upgrades and patches to address issues. This is no different.

Time Warner told me there are forty to forty-five boxes in use throughout the metro. They all look the same to the consumer but they are internally different. The trouble is, that means you have to make a different patch for each one. For Time Warner, that was half the problem as it was explained to me.

But, Time Warner also talked about the exciting new features of the software that was installed on boxes. The A button Access key was touted. Caller ID on TV is now an option.

Time Warner's spokesman told me he is well aware of the complaints, and that the complaints are an important component to troubleshooting these problems. But, while there are complaints they are seeing positive responses as well. The message from the local spokesman was be patient and stick it out. Time Warner said Navigator problems are their daily focus until they find permanent fixes.

After that brief quesetion and answer conversation with the local spokesman, I aksed for an on-camera interview. We set up a time and a date and I hung up feeling like we finally were making progress. After all, we've been reporting on DVR problems since last summer. There have been many issues -- the Navigator issues are just the most recent problem. But, this was the first time the company was willing to address the questions. I was excited that KC would finally get some answers.

Then, my phone rang again. This time, the spokesman explained that Time Warner Cable's corporate office did not think an on-camera interview was the best idea. He would have to cancel our appointment. I was told that the issues are so specific and technical, there was concern that Time Warner would not be able to address the issues on camera.  I tried several times to get Time Warner to talk on camera, and they refused.

Instead, I was told coproate Time Warner Cable wanted the questions in writing. I decided it was in our viewers best interest to provide a set of written questions. Time Warner Cable is one of the biggest -- if not the biggest - cable provider in our area. Our viewers, their customers deserved answers. So, we supplied a list of questions that addressed the issues and the steps they were taking to fix the issues.

Then, I got this response:

"Im pleased to report that the issues you addressed in your questions have been fully resolved. Should anyone experience issues along those lines, they have a service issue with either their signal or cable box that requires a service call. Thank you."

I immediately sent another email asking how they were sure the issues were fixed this time, and how they suddenly found a fix that they couldn't find for the last few months. I never did get a response.

So, I called the corporate headquarters. My phone calls have also not been returned by the corporation.

Feel free to share your thoughts.

UPDATE 7/23/08

From emails from viewers....

I have the same issue, but I don't have the DVR box. I just have the Digital Cable box/service. Mine reboots 5-10 times a week. Thanks for running this story so I know what the true issue is!!!
 
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Jenn,
     I saw the end of your segment on the Time Warner issue Call for Action dated 7/22/08.  If this involves the Navigator issue I have had many.  As a paying customer it is very frustrating with the issues listed below:

 -A few channels have no sound
-When switching to the menu guide there is a very long delay
-There are times when the whole system just resets and takes a few minutes to recycle.

-Also some channels are in Spanish, and they should not be.

 I am not sure this is the issue that you were talking about but I did want to state my concern about what I have been experiencing. 

 I live in Edwardsville, KS and this has been happening for more than 3 months now.  Feel free to post this on your blog as I was not able to post any comments.  Thanks and have a great day! J

Regards,

Joe Bates.

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I was just watching your segment on Time Warner Cable about the boxes re-booting all of the time. Just as you were about to say several top executives have lost their job's, my cable box went out! What are the chances of that happening! It is still trying to re-boot now.

We did make a call to the company about this and we were told that the system re-boots every night to update info.

Thanks for the segment!

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Published Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:10 PM by strathman

Comments

 

brockcj said:

I just wanted to thank you for this Call for Action. We have been expierencing the same problems, but figured it was due to something we were doing. This is a random event, but from now on, any time this happens, I will be logging it and making a complaint to customer service, as our reboot takes upwards of 5 minutes.
July 22, 2008 6:19 PM
 

tigeral said:

Interesting story on Time Warner Cable.  I have had their service since September 2007, and basically from the first week of installation until now I have had nothing but problems with their cable box that I have for my HDTV.  I have had to call customer service no fewer than a dozen times to have the box rebooted so I can receive my HD channels that I pay extra for.  Sometimes these calls take up as much as one hour of my time, and no less than 30 minutes.  I have a Samsung HDTV with 1080i capability, and I should receive the 1080i signal on my high definition channels, but more often than not I only receive a 720P signal.  Just like right now as I am typing this I am watching Fox Sports Midwest HD on Time Warner channel 1496, and it is only sending a 720P signal.  But your channel (KSHB HD) on channell 1441 is sending a 1080i signal.  Basically I paid more money for a better TV, and am not getting the best HD signal possible, and one I should get.
I am just about ready to throw in the towel completely and go to DISH or DirectTV.
They all have the consumer over the barrel basically, but one would hope that they would care more about their customers and would provide better customer service.

Tigeral
July 22, 2008 6:35 PM
 

gymmiller said:

"Time Warner Cable's corporate office did not think" -- how true, talking to sales people is useless.

http://www.scientificatlanta.com/products/consumers/new_explorer8300HD.htm

Includes information Time Warner "forgot." Including the info that this is a Cisco product. Ask your LAN guys about Cisco quality.
July 22, 2008 7:05 PM
 

Kim929 said:

We have an HD box powered by Navigator.  We have to reboot the box to get the HD channels to come in many times.  We also have had issues the past several months with the Pay-per-View events we order.  We order the UFC fights every month.  Although the box and remote offer the capability of order the fight in advance, be careful when you do this.  Most every time it would not come in on the night of the fight.  We would have to call customer service, wait for 30 minutes for someone to answer, then go through trouble shooting, for them to order the fight a second time.  Each time I have been charged twice for the same pay-per-view. Then getting the credit for the duplicate pay-per-view is like pulling eye teeth!  This last time this happened, I had pre-ordered the July 5th fight on July 3rd (I was going out of town so I ordered it for my husband).  The night of the 5th my husband called to tell me it wasn't coming in.  After 3 phone calls, and 2 reps providing incorrect information, April was able to get the fight to come in.  April also said she would check my bill on Sunday to make sure I was not charged twice, then call me to let me know.  Well, I never heard back from April.  So I called on Saturday, July 12th. Twice. I was advised they could not credit that amount ($49.95) to my account and I would need to contact a local store.  Then I found out I was charged for the same pay-per-view a third time on July 7th! I called 4 times to the local numbers provided to me (913-451-5858 and 913-451-6464) on Monday, July 14th.  I kept getting a voicemail stating the mailbox was full or please hold while I transfer you and would get disconnected.  July 16th I called the customer service number again.  I spoke with Lakeisha.  She was able to credit the 1 duplicate charge for the July 5th event but stated she would have to have a supervisor review the July 7th charge.  She stated I would be called back within 24 hours.  I called again on July 17th and was advised by the rep she would have to have Lakeisha call me back since she knew what was going on. I still have yet to hear back from them.  I sent them an email on Saturday advising I expected to hear from someone on the next business day.  It is now July 22nd and I still have not heard from anyone.  I will be contacting them tomorrow to speak to a manager.  I will let you know the outcome.
July 22, 2008 8:19 PM
 

MikeTrainor1 said:

Kim... your experience is frightening, but not terribly uncommon. This is the problem we have when you have a no, or very limited, customer choice. If every TW customer switched to Everest (where available), or to a satellite service, TW would have to take notice.

Fortumately for me, my pre-recorded programs on the DVR and any pay-per-views I've ordered haven't been an issue, and I've not lost any recorded programs as yet either. But, I do get that reboot now and then but, oddly, it is usually on weekends and only while I'm watching a broadcast channel (as opposed to recorded program).

Keep pressuring TW, Jenn, and thanks for your good work. - MT1

July 23, 2008 10:57 AM
 

Jesus Christ said:

We shouldn't beat up Time Warner for trying to stay "ahead of the game". Reading all the other blogs and learning about other cool things that are coming in the future is very interesting. Time Warner has to do the upgrades so all this "new features" can be offered. All this new stuff and people wanting it NOW makes it quite a feat to make everyone happy.  They offer Video, Internet (faster than any) and phone with unlimited long distance. Things have come a long way from 12 channels and a dial up connection for internet. My boxes have done a few reboots but now seem to be fine.  Yes I've lost a couple of recordings but even after that I think I'm still breathing.. Seriously, I've had these other providers and they are not even close in content and internet speed. I game alot on my computers and AT&T cannot touch Time Warner’s speed. It wasn't long ago when we seen ads saying we would be able to pause, FF and rewind our movies and shows and now we are. i for one know that when everything is working fine we don't call up and tell the service provider "Hey, just wanted to let you know everything is awesome!" That never happens. Seems Jenn Strathman should call a few random customers of several providers and see who the really happy people are. Not just the squeeky wheels. Those are just my thoughts and I hope everyone can make this day a good one... Even if their box reboots :)

WEBMASTER NOTE: 

Time Warner did mention the advances it's made with the new software and the new options available to customers.  This is also mentioned in the original blog.

July 23, 2008 11:53 AM
 

KSCityKitty said:

Thanks for this story.  Ever since they updated with Navigator, my cable box reboots numerous time in a short period of time AND when you press the on-screen guide button, it starts updating the guide and takes about 7-8 seconds to display the guide.  Completely frustrating.
July 23, 2008 12:51 PM
 

AClary said:

This issue has by no means been resolved.  For the last month, my box has continued to reboot, drop recordings or cause you to miss live programming, with a dismal response from TW.  Their response - sorry, we can give you $4 for the DVR rental for your inconvenience.  Something more needs to be done, the service is all inclusive - you pay to have the cable ready when you want it and that may be only one time a day.  To have it not work during that period of time is frustrating, but the customer service at TW is even more maddening.  If there was someone else that had a line (vice dish) to provide the service, I would be gone.  Monopolies - you have to love them.
September 4, 2008 9:46 AM
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