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Its Raining and by Tonight, Snowing!

Good morning,

   I will make this quick as we are in the middle of weather updates during the Today show.  Rain is here and in some cases appears to be mixing with snow.

January 16th Radar.jpg

   But it is all rain, at least for the metro.  It should stay all rain most of the day around Kansas City.  It will be a cold rain.(unless you live in St. Joe and farther north, then it will change over to snow).  Temperatures at 5-thousand feet will be below freezing but here on earth they will remain in the mid and upper 30s at least until this evening.  That means the precipitation will start as snow aloft but melt into a cold rain as it gets closer to the surface.

   Even though it doesn't change over to snow until tonight snow accumulations still look impressive closer to Iowa and wimpy heading south.

Snow_Forecast.jpg

   Watch the NBC Action News Midday at 11:00 am today for the updated forecast.  New data will filter in between now and 10:30. Gary and I will analyze the data and tweak the forecast for the midday show.

Have a great morning,

Brett

Published Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:36 AM by wxman5

Comments

 

mamaof3girls said:

I guess I am gonna loose out again for this event. Oh well life goes on. At least I am getting some rain out of the deal tonight. Maybe next time the snow pile will be right over me, LOLOL!!! Enjoy the snow everyone and be safe. Have a good day and good luck with the forecast.
Monica
Pleasanton
January 16, 2008 7:59 AM
 

stepheninskc said:

where about is the front, anywhere reporting NW winds right?
January 16, 2008 8:01 AM
 

stepheninskc said:

This is really complex, KCI NW winds but Olathe South so the front is right through the metro right?
January 16, 2008 8:06 AM
 

kw_jw174 said:

Mamaof 3girls.....

You can come to my house with a truck and take my snow home :).

Keri
January 16, 2008 8:07 AM
 

kellyann said:

kellyann said:
Goodmorning all! I just talked to my Aunt in northeast Ks, 6, min from St joe and she said they have been having some sleet off and on for the past 30 min
January 16, 2008 8:08 AM
 

T in Liberty said:

The northland is seeing numerous accidents due to ice on the roads north of I-35 / I-29 and in between 169 and 435....Is this change over happening sooner????  
January 16, 2008 8:10 AM
 

LVStormSpotter said:

Temp has been falling rapidly in Leavenworth.

36.8 and falling.
January 16, 2008 8:11 AM
 

Fire Dog said:

Yea up here in the Excelsior Springs area its an ice rink all over! DOZENS OF ACCIDENTS!  Everyone be careful!  Seems to me that the surface temp is colder than first thought!
January 16, 2008 8:14 AM
 

TeacherInStJoe said:

Up in St. Joseph this morning, we have had a mix of precipitation. As of right now it looks to be just a light rain. The temperature is holding at 34. I'm curious if the change over is sooner, will snow totals increase?
January 16, 2008 8:15 AM
 

katdog said:

Brett,

  I work in Lees Summit, and there were several people who come into work from Greenwood, and there were a few accidents out on Hamblen Road out there due to slick spots.........
January 16, 2008 8:17 AM
 

legalpractice said:

Traveling north on 71 Hwy sleet changed to rain changed to cloudy, between St. Joe and Maryville the temperature dropped from 36 to 31.
January 16, 2008 8:20 AM
 

weatherinkc1 said:

Maybe some of the accidents in or around the metro area are being caused by the light rain and oil on the roads making some slick spots. Seems still too warms for any icy conditions on roadways yet. Maybe further north a different story??

Bryan
January 16, 2008 8:24 AM
 

LVStormSpotter said:

The temps are not below freezing up north.

Excelsior Springs just had a heavy downpoor, most likely all sleet. Slickining the roads.

******* Thanks for the updates, if sleet is mixing in then yes the roads will become slick.  Watch out and be careful, Brett.

January 16, 2008 8:24 AM
 

5kckmartins said:

I don't know how many of you fellow bloggers are in KCK.  My hubby just got home from taking the oldest to school, and on the low lying side streets he says are very slick.  On 57th and Tauromee he witnessed a Durango taking sliding lessons.

Be safe out there everyone..... I'll be inside watching the blog, radar and looking out the windows

Stacy N the gang
January 16, 2008 8:27 AM
 

mamaof3girls said:

Thanks Keri....I may just do that. Or I will just pack up my kids and drive to St. Joe to visit a friend of mine. Either way I have options. :o) If the snow can not find me then I will find the snow, LOL!!!!
Monica
January 16, 2008 8:28 AM
 

nastyweather said:

I could be wrong but I think people are confusing slick wet roads with icy roads.  I don't understand how there can be any ice on roads around KC that have been above freezing for almost 24 hours, not to mention the surface temps are still around 38 degrees.

Anyway, I haven't went above 39.5 and I'm hoping that's as high as it goes.  Come on cold air.
January 16, 2008 8:38 AM
 

kellyann said:

In Albany, Mo, my parents got out to go open their dental office and the temp there is 30* but they said it was not windy at least!
January 16, 2008 8:47 AM
 

weathermanjim said:

In Plattsburg, it IS freezing on the road.
January 16, 2008 8:47 AM
 

T in Liberty said:

nastyweather......

I am with you on the ...."how could it be icy when the temps have not been freezing for 24hours".....Hard to understand ..... However Police Officers were reporting a hard time walking and thier cars were sliding down hills when attempting to get to accident scenes.  The PD also closed several roads and ordered salt and sand crews between 80th to 96th on N. Brighton Ave.  One car also stuck a Police Car due to road conditions.  Due to slow speeds the car was not damaged. Not sure what happened but one could only beleive that in several areas up norht the temp dropped below freezing in pockets or freezing rain hit for a short period around the 7:00am to 7:30am time frame.   Just a thought.....  Anyone else experience this?    

: ) ********* Roads could be icy since, yesterday morning the temperature was 12 degrees, and it appears getting into the upper 30s yesterday was not enough to warm up the pavement.  Be casreful.  Brett
January 16, 2008 8:55 AM
 

kellyann said:

Just thought I would say that where I am, I just came in from a walk and it is doing something weird out...a light rain/sleet and a little snow mixed in.
January 16, 2008 9:00 AM
 

nastyweather said:

Thank you T in Liberty and others for your reports.  I wasn't questioning anyone, just didn't make any sense to me.  We sure don't need anymore ice.

Brett, what are the chances of a messy commute going home tonight?  I saw you on TV this morning and it sounded like it wouldn't cause problems until after dark, but I wonder if might be a few hours earlier now?  ******** Possibly, since the roadways are cold, but the air temperature still doesn't drop below freezing until after dark. Just be careful especially anyone living up north.  Brett
January 16, 2008 9:09 AM
 

kellyann said:

Im watching the neatest thing! A black bobcat, right out my window! or is it a panther? ****** Please, take a picture and e-mail it to me, anthony@nbcactionnews.com  Brett
January 16, 2008 9:15 AM
 

dryslot said:

I had to throw salt down on ice forming at the school I work at. Above freezing but very light and slick ice on walks.Not sure how that happens.When the temps here are 37-38
January 16, 2008 9:17 AM
 

Brett34 said:

Here in OP, KS... there is NO wind, w/ big drops of rain but lightly falling.  It feels much colder now then it did at 0700.  
January 16, 2008 9:17 AM
 

nastyweather said:

Well the latest NAM appears to push the heavier snow farther south.  Don't get your hopes up, because the NAM hasn't been accurate lately.  Anyway, it's encouraging.

http://wxcaster4.com/nam/CONUS_ETA212_SFC_ACCUMSNOWFALL-KUCHERA_24HR.gif
January 16, 2008 9:21 AM
 

Brett34 said:

I hear you nastyweather.  Maybe since it is cold aloft the rain will drop temps enough for an earlier changeover?  Wishful thinking!  Whenever its warm aloft and freezing at the surface , depending on how shallow it is, it usually warms up, maybe we will have a reverse effect.  
January 16, 2008 9:24 AM
 

kellyann said:

I noticed KCK wind has switched from the S (7) to NNW(9) in an hour.
January 16, 2008 9:44 AM
 

MikeL said:

The rain is now changing over to snow here in downtown Topeka.  The 9:00A temp was 37F, but I suspect it has fallen now to 33-35.
January 16, 2008 9:44 AM
 

jeffw said:

the Belton Mo. area has had a few rain drops and temps holding steady at 38...come on cold air :)
January 16, 2008 9:46 AM
 

Brett34 said:

MikeL, no kidding?  I hope it comes in earlier, we would be on the higher end of accumulations.
January 16, 2008 9:48 AM
 

Nick Rau said:

Radar is kind of interesting, the area of rain to the south is stopping just to our south, pretty much, and there is an area of lighter precip. to our west-northwest, and a dry band oriented SW-NE over us kind of weird looking, still waiting for things to ramp up.
January 16, 2008 9:52 AM
 

kane1970 said:

Does anyone know where the cold front is located now? What are the chances of this producing more ice early and then change to snow? That could really make for some traffic problems. Well here in Lenexa it is 39 with light to moderate rainfall. I hope every one enjoys this exciting situation and how close it is to the LRC.

More EVIDENCE!!
January 16, 2008 9:52 AM
 

lilricky said:

Hooray for "Whimpy" snow.
January 16, 2008 9:52 AM
 

heavysnow said:

I was going to say lots of slick spots, especially on the driveways and sidewalks.  Looks like other beat me to it.  

Looking forward to some snow.  
January 16, 2008 9:53 AM
 

nastyweather said:

Brett, Gary or anyone out there in the know.  I was a little concerned with the reports of ice, but after hearing kelleyann I checked the Storm Watch (http://stormwatch.com) stations.  Sure enough 2 of the stations are now showing north winds and Johnson Dr. and K-7 is 37.4 with falling temperatures and north wind.  Is the cold air ahead of schedule?
January 16, 2008 9:55 AM
 

Nick Rau said:

Flurries right now at my house:):)
January 16, 2008 9:56 AM
 

heavysnow said:

KCI, KCK and Downtown all reporting NW winds.  
January 16, 2008 9:57 AM
 

kellyann said:

Nastyweather, I wonder about the cold air also. In just the past 10 min, KCMO and Belton/Grandview winds are now out of the NNW but no temp drop yet.
January 16, 2008 10:01 AM
 

youngitized said:

Gary and Weather Team,

It started snowing in Topeka at 9:40am. It is not sticking yet and the roads at this point are just wet.

Ryan
January 16, 2008 10:01 AM
 

stodd said:

Brett,
Will this rain continue through the night with snow and then turn to ice so that school will be cancelled tomorrow and I can have my husband and kids home? ;)
January 16, 2008 10:02 AM
 

kellyann said:

I would think this cold air will get here quicker than thought as Topeka has dropped to 34* and snow now.
January 16, 2008 10:07 AM
 

Jhwk33 said:

I know this is most likely following this years LRC, but are we ever going to get an all snow event????
January 16, 2008 10:08 AM
 

siraluce said:

I am guessing that evaporative cooling taking place below the heavier showers caused a shallow layer below the base of some of the heavier precipitating clouds to drop below freezing, resulting in spotty sleet and  slick conditions encountered this morning.
January 16, 2008 10:09 AM
 

MikeL said:

At 10:00A, snow in Topeka and 34F. It is starting to stick on the grassy/dirt areas a little bit.  The radar returns are also expanding to the south and west.  Lookin' good so far! :)

Mike
January 16, 2008 10:09 AM
 

nikieis said:

i live by worlds of fun and just got back from running some errands, the roads are just wet here so far . the temp is 38 for the last 2 hours and light rain.
January 16, 2008 10:11 AM
 

NE LS said:

At 8:00 a.m. there was some icy driveways in Greenwood, MO.  How can that happen when it was well enough above freezing? ****** Yesterday, it was 12 in the morning and the pavement temperature is still below freezing.  Brett
January 16, 2008 10:14 AM
 

Mark M said:

With the rain now and then the cold and snow coming, do you expect a quick drop in temperatures this afternoon?  With the streets already being wet, that could lead to some real problems this afternoon.
January 16, 2008 10:22 AM
 

nastyweather said:

Where's the weather team?  I figured someone in the know would come on here and stop the madness, but instead we're left to our own devices of first hand information and speculation.  I just want to know if I should leave early this afternoon, because the snow appears to be ahead of schedule.
January 16, 2008 10:24 AM
 

jczellar said:

Looks like the changeover line between rain and "mixed" precipitation is just North of downtown KC:
www.wunderground.com/radar/mixedcomposite.asp?region=b3&size=2x&ID=EAX19
January 16, 2008 10:27 AM
 

beckysma said:

nastyweather said:
"I just want to know if I should leave early this afternoon, because the snow appears to be ahead of schedule."

Ditto!  Please keep us updated as much as you can, team!
January 16, 2008 10:28 AM
 

backwoods said:

39 degrees and raining in Blue Springs
January 16, 2008 10:29 AM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

30 minutes to NBC Midday. I think it will be a early changeover.
January 16, 2008 10:32 AM
 

weatherjaded said:

NEW BLOG!
January 16, 2008 10:38 AM
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