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Sweet. Hopefully we get 3-5 inches of snow

the lrc has not been proven, the wishing for cold and snow but the majortiy of you bloggers is crazy, the rest of the winter well moderERATE WITH 6 INCHES AND NO MORE BELOW ZEO WINTER THATS WHAT ANOTHER METEOROLOGIST SAYS ************* Please do not use specific names of other Meteorologists within your post. They will be changed or deleted. This rule has been in place for quite some time...just letting you know. Jeremy

I am thinking 3 to 6 inches right now

In fact I am guessing 3 to 6 inches is about right for 2 to 3 more storms.... with one possible big one

im so tired of cold weather i hate it i hope we dont get any more snow the rest of the year and it is in the 60s every day. why are all you pepole so obsesed with cold weather and snow if you love it so much move to minnasota  or up north were there is snow on the ground all winter. you live in kansas city which is like the dividing line of what is considered to be the north and the south if you split the country in half the line would go right though kansas city this is not a northern city we are in the SOUTHERN planes the SOUTH the Mid West not the north. Im tired of hereing all you blog pepole complane about not geting any snow or you want more snow or cold it gets old. Kansas City gets more cold and snow then it needs. if you want it COLD MOVE TO THE NORTH ************** Everyone loves different weather and since this is a weather blog we all get to express what we like and don't. So those that love winter and summer are each equally welcome. I'm with you...I'd take 60s over snow anyday! Jeremy

3-6 inches would be lovely. i would gladyley take it here in Lee's Summit, we need the snow our snow total this year is very low
:( ************ I wish everyone that wants snow see's at least 2-3" this time around! Jeremy

ATL 2 KCMO...for some of us, moving to an area where there is more (or less) snow is as easy as changing your gender.  If you don't like reading about how much people want snow, then you need to not read those comments.   *********** Point...counterpoint...let's move on. Jeremy

Jeremy, the 7 day looks pretty average for this time of year, which is fine by me. T-minus 72 days and counting until the home opener baby!!!!!!!

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A couple of storms and some big temp swings...still a lot to talk about.  Glad my Twins signed Morneau and Cuddyer.

Jeremy

Today was just about as nice a day as you can expect in January!  The kids spent most of the afternoon outside and are now all tuckered out.  What a great cure for the cabin fever we've had the past couple of weeks!  

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Barbara,

I was outside a bit today...but am looking forward to my day off on Monday!  60s!

Jeremy

Barbara, here, here!

ATL 2 KCMO, if you look at the places that get a lot of snow, the farmers usually make out pretty well. I would bet that the farmers would like some more.  This really isn't a very cold place (colder than Atlanta) and doesn't really get a lot of snow (21.8 inches per year).  That much snow is like a big snowstorm to some of us.  A lot of us like it because it's beautiful and you can do a lot of things in it. A lot of us came from the north so we miss a "real" winter. As I told somebody the other day, i miss being able to walk in the woods in my backyard back home and looking at all of the different animal footprints in the snow.  Enjoy what you can and have a great day!

Greg, i'm with you.  Just 72 days until the Yankees come to town! LOL!!!

yea. I will be at the Home Opener and today felt great. I finally got my dog and his name is Flash because I work for the city of olathe of traffic managment.

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Make sure to tell Gary...he is a dog lover!

Jeremy

going to cancune in 3 weeks anyone out there know where I can get weather for cancune on the web? thanks

to get weather for cancune go to weather.com or weather underground or accueweather they are all good sites

Thanks ATL

barbara, as far as your gender changing goes...where theres a will, theres a way! good luck!
j/k

atl2kcmo...where were you from in atlanta? secondly, this isnt the southern plains, or the midwest.  the southern plains would be texas and OK, central plains would be ks/ne and north plains the dakotas. the midwest is further east.  

mattp...KC average more snow that the majority of the country, therefore it is considered a 'snowy' place.  of course, there are snowier though.  and it is very cold here in the winter.  few places get as cold as kansas can.  in fact, the only places in the lower 48 that get colder are between here and canada, and extreme northern new england.

jeremy,

your blog reminds me of my previous post on the last blog ;)

murph

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PVT,

The 18Z run seemed odd to me.  The earlier runs favoring northern areas was just like most of the storms this winter.  In the next several days the GFS will continue to switch the track north, south, etc.  I'm glad we have some knowledge of what the trend has been this winter to know what areas the storm should favor.

Jeremy

This is great jeremy, we moved this weekend and it turned out to be amazing! And with some irony, we moved 2 years ago this time of year, and it was wonderful! I'm so thankful today turned out nice.

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Glad it turned out nice!  Moving this time of year is really rolling the dice!

Jeremy

Matt P, don't take this the wrong way, but growing up here as a Royals fan, I despise the yankees! You and patsoxcelts should get together, you have alot in common, you're both from the east coast, like snow, and root for teams that actually win championships more frequently than every 20-30yrs. Oh well at least my commute is easy......

NO! THE YANKEES STINK! GO RED SOX! I do like snow though and I am from the east coast. Im hoping for a big storm. I dont think that 4-6 is out of the question.

Patriots 19-0

Jeremy:

Good evening to you sir!! How is your day going? I hope you can get out tomorrow and enjoy the weather with your 2 girls!!!

Pretty busy weekend so have't really had much of a chance to look at things but did take a quick peak at the 2Z surface observations just now: the cold air has entered the U.S.-parts of North Central Montana are already below 0 and the forecasts for the Dakotas and Montana-just wow!! Ok, I'm going out on a limb here, (crack break!!!) but I am wondering if the models have not underdone this front somewhat. Based on current observations, it looks like this cold air is going to take a more classic trajectory and bank up against the Rockies. I am sure I am way off, but the models way underdid the clipper on 12-5 and I'm not so sure we aren't seeing the same thing here. Obviously how things look now are not much of an indication of how they will look in 12 hours and for sure this will modify quite a bit but I just wonder if the core of the cold air does not come a bit further west than what the models have progged.

Just a random observation that is very much conjecture and from a hobbyist but for sure this is going to be a fun front to track-especially since you can already see it on the surface charts!!!!

As much as I love cold weather, today was just gorgeous!!!! Hope everybody got to enjoy it!!!!

Have a great night

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

Enjoy Monday...I don't see a day like this for a little while.  The front will change our temps from 50s to 30s or upper 20s in about 5 hours time!

The really cold air will be a little too close for comfort!  Your model ban is almost over!

Jeremy

That storm on Thurs looks good!
It will turn colder but the arctic air will likely stay in the Midwest.
Tommorrow looks to be the last mild day for awhile. That is fine with me!
If this storm materializes January will have above normal snowfall.
CentralOP

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OP,

The storm Thursday should be fun.  Accumulating snow should fall, but how much is the question and where will the heaviest band set up.  We've been expecting this, now time to get the fine details.

Jeremy

ATL 2 KCMO,

Kansas City is a Central Plains city.
It is not that cold here in the winter compared with the Midwest, but definitely colder than the southeast.

The Midwest would include Des Moines, Cedar Rapids, Rochester, La Crosse, Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison, Indianapolis, South Bend, Grand Rapids, etc.

They shouldnt even play the superbowl. After Tynes booted farve out that basically said congradz Pats for going 19-0 and winning the superbowl.

I will be attending Home Opener because March 8th is when Tickets go on sale. I will stay up all night to get 3 tickets for me and my buds.

Hopefully 3-6 inches of good snow will cause more mayhay. I looked at the 10-15 day weather and It suppose to snow alot and very windy which could cause Blizzard Conditions.

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Blizzard conditions are pretty rare around here.  I think one of the storms was close earlier this year near St. Joe with the snow, strong winds, and poor visibilities.

Jeremy

I agree, I am a Royals fan too but I am from the Boston area so they are naturally my favorite teams. Favre is a great QB but I think he might retire. I hope we get A LOT of snow. The storm looks good on GFS!

Wow talk about warmth, the snow is now back to mud... mainly, some hold outs in some areas but the majority is mud, Wow, one thing with this pattern is that there seems to be some snow, maybe not much, but some almost EVERY week now!!!
Lovin' this LRC;)

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Nick,

You and Brent have reversed roles this winter.  The LRC has treated you well with the exception of the ice storm...that wasn't any fun.

Jeremy

  pvt_murphy

for one kansas city is in missouri not kansas
two i lived on the south side in atlatna east point collage park area
3rd kansas citiy does not get even close to as much snow as most of the country are you crazy prety much every city in the us that is north of kc gets more snow then us which proves my point we are right on the line of cold winter and warm winter hello look at the facts before you start just thrown stuff out thier

kc's annual aveage temp is 56
atl's is 58

not to far off

look at a city in the north however like chicago there annuall temp is 44

pretty far off

id say we are not one of the couldest in the country

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FYI...Kansas City is in both Missouri and Kansas.

Jeremy

the dec 22nd snow counted as a blizzard in these parts.  9 inches of snow in ~10hrs with >35mph winds...not too bad.

interesting statistics atl 2 kcmo but kansas city is also in kansas too...

oh ya i forget about kck

anyone even know the last time this city had more then a foot of snow on the ground or a snow storm that produced more then a foot of snow if that was to happen this city would shut down

Jeremy I got modelitis I need to go to modelitis anonymous  I'm waiting patiently for the GFS!!!!!!I shouldn't look at it though because I already rely on the LRC!!!

i spent some of my formative years in atlanta mostly around smyrna-bankhead area and decatur area.  although i enjoyed east point on occasion.  just curious where you were from...

theres a map on NOAA that lays out average snowfall, and you will see that the kc metro area gets more snow than about a little more than 60% of the country.  so its true, we are a 'snowy' area of the country compared to average.  we are closer to canada than we are to the gulf or mexico, keep that in mind.  average annual temp is always misleading, as you will find out after you live here for a while.  the only reason why its as high as it is is because it gets very hot here as well, considerably hotter than atlanta.  that averages out the extreme cold.  youll see.  i live on the kansas side, not the missouri side, so i speak of kansas....the same still holds true for much of north MO though.  just west of kansas city kansas the coldest temperature in all 50 states was recorded in early december 2005(even alaska).  i ALWAYS check my facts before i post.  you dont have to worry about that.  

atlanta averages a rather benign annual temp because it is generally pretty humid, which over the long term creates an equilibrium with temperatures.  this whole viewing area is best described as 'extreme' when it comes to weather.  there will be times where it will be the hottest place and the coldest place-even in the same year.  there can be flooding rains and large snows, or it can be drought laden,  your prognosis of KC area sounds like someone that went to weather.com and looked at numbers...not the most accurate...check the record books at the nws and you will see.

last year parts of the city got two feet of snow from one storm...the city is used to snow because it snows nearly half the year here, so they are used to it...

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Moving here from 3 different harsh winter locations I was pleasantly surprised with how well the snow removal crews do in Kansas City and surrounding areas.  The snow removal in Madison, WI was the worst I've seen in my life.  Terrible!  The folks around here do a great job!

Jeremy

not like atlanta where there will be only one lane of 285 open and nothing else...

i agree jeremy, i always have been pleased with the road crews' effort here.  the gfs is jumping around, i wonder whats up with it?

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Somtimes it restarts...probably just to annoy us:)

Jeremy

Jeremy, I had considered moving up to Wisconsin in a few years.  But if the snow removal there is worse than here, I think I'd really have to think about it.  This has been the worst I've ever seen.  Our neighborhood has had the trucks come out twice this year (only on a couple of streets) and it normally takes around 2-3 days before they make it.  I'm used to seeing pavement fairly quickly after a storm.

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In Madison it is bad...but surrounding areas it is fine.  The best road crews of all-time were in Marquette, MI.  But then again when it snows everyday you can perfect your craft:)

Jeremy

well the gfs still shows it thursday and friday and it's there that's for sure..but how much will fall is the question :)!!!!!!

well, model watchers...despite the slightly positive tilt, the new gfs brings SEVERAL inches of snow to the kc area.  i dont really believe this run 100 percent, but it is impressive looking nevertheless.  it brings around .5" qpf for the event, which at a 12:1 ratio would be about 6" of snow.  lets see what the 06z offers before we get too excited ;)

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Or let's wait another 24-36 hours before ramping up the excitement too much.  The trend is good...but which way will it trend next?

Jeremy

I detest any extremes in temperature; winter cold, below zero and summer heat above 85.  I lived for years in an oceanic climate without extremes.  If it were not for my job here in Kansas City and my wife’s family I would be gone.  The snow can go away, and as soon as every malevolent flake melts the happier I will feel.  You are not alone ATL 2 KCMO others agree with you.  I just got tied of reading the posts of cheerleaders dreaming of how much snow we are going to receive with each passing storm.  I just enjoy learning about weather, and it is nice to read the post of the weather team, Notes and Scott.  When the cheerleading starts I sign off.  There is nothing to be learned from cheerleaders.  Just look for posts from Notes, Scott and the weather team and ignore the cheerleaders.

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We feel everyone adds to the blog, but it is okay to have favorites...

Sometimes when you want something so badly it is hard to hold the excitement in.  Don't worry, I will never cheer for snow.

Jeremy

how did you like madison, jeremy? my wife wants me to apply to their pharmacy school...it seems nice enough, but i dont konw much about it.  as of now i am considering KU and UM at minneapolis.  i would like to add a third option... ************* Madison is a great town and summers there are hard to beat with the downtown area between two large lakes. There is always something to do and the city is very biker friendly. Housing is very expensive for the Midwest and taxes are a killer. A home valued at $280K in Madison will run $5700 in property taxes a year! Jeremy

Is things going to get fun again with storms and snow, this is looking a bit short on storms compared to the last go round in the LRC. Will then next week spread well into Feb. Our snow totals are really over exagerated for the southern metro even to see 19 inches.

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There are plenty of storms ahead.  Not all will produce snow, some a mix, rain, or all of the above.  But one thing is certain the pattern is going to get a lot more active.  A storm Tuesday, Thursday, and early the following week.  Plenty of winter left...hang in there.  The LRC isn't here to put smiles on everyone's face, just to help us give accurate long range forecasts and identify seasonal trends.

Jeremy

ouch northlander, my feelings are hurt, but you bring up a point.

dont get me rong i love this city its alot of fun the night clubs are great theres always somthing to do i live just east of the plaza and i love the fact that im walking distence from the plazza a 10 min bus ride from downtown i just dont like the could weather that much i like snow every now and then ecspessally when it gets me out of school but id much rather it be in the 60s however if it must be could it might as well snow if you get my point
also i never thought atlanta road crews did that bad they are not as exsprienced as kc but ive been though quite a few big snow and ice storms down in the atl and they cleared the roads prety quick alot like here

Give me an, S, give me an N, give me an O, give me a W,...
Ok., just messing around, not trying to start a riot;)
I know snow causes it's problems, it is just something I like, I also like warm spring and summer days, as I've stated before I love thunderstorms, Favorite cloud type for me is a cumulonimbus for shore!!!!
Yes it really is amazing how the snowfall/precipitation patterns line up with the different LRC's, I am very curious as to how this will line up with the thunderstorm complexes this warm season as the last years LRC, precip pattern for the snow showed up remarkably well with the way the spring and summer rains fell.  My father is throwing a big Superbowl party and I am watching that storm for early next week, so far it is behaving on the models and hitting just afterwards... hmmm didn't Scott have a trend chart that showed something big just after the Superbowl time frame;)

Gary:

Good warm morning to you sir!!! At least it is not windy outside this morning LOL-as the group Kansas sings: We’re the people of the South Wind..there is a reason when driving on K-10 that the trees face North!!!

A couple random points this morning:

1. That front has some punch to it-looking at the 11Z surface data and some of the temps. in Montana into Western North Dakota-wow!! I think it will be fascinating/fun to follow this front and I still wonder if the models are taking the core of it a bit too far east. It still looks like on the surface observations it wants to spill down and bank up against the Rockies. What ever the case, there is some very cold air in Canada and it isn’t going anywhere any time soon-for sure, this will play a role in the next few weeks.



2. I went back and looked at some past maps etc. and while I have hinted at this, I really now feel that Lawrence has kind of caught lightening in a bottle this winter. To be honest, we should be in the same boat as Overland Park and South KC but just got lucky with the moisture and cold air especially on 12-21 which for snow, made this winter. We are kind of at the far southern extent of the heavier snow and any slight switch would have changed everything. Thus, this time through the more active part of the cycle I am gearing myself for things to not “go so well” if you are a snow lover. I think this time through the WAA will win out more so than not and looking back, it did on the biggest moisture rich storm of 12-10.  However, will be interesting to see just what this front does tomorrow-it in my humble opinion is kind of a bench mark as to what will happen with the cold air.


3. With number 2 in mind, I really can’t complain though. I have enjoyed this winter more both tracking and getting out in it than any since I was a kid. My boys and I have built forts, gone sleeding and biking;  The KAW is totally frozen up, Clinton Reservoir has had ice on the back end since mid December, the cabin arm of Lone Star lake has had ice since early December, we have had snow on the ground for 6 weeks this winter and finally have reached below 0 2-3 times-it has been a great winter!!!! Thus, I am going to track the next few weeks and hope for the best (yes, that would mean a great snow!!!!) but try to keep my expectations low as I really think we have been “lucky” here and just try to learn more about the weather!!!


Just some random points on this mid March type morning. Not much weather talk in this entry,  but just a few things I have been thinking about regarding Lawrence and this year’s LRC. No matter what, this front is going to be fun to track and man is it already showing up on the surface charts-there is some 40 degree temp. spreads with in a 100 miles of each other!!!


Have a great day and as always thanks for reading and providing such a great place to discuss the weather-it is so appreciated and such a great learning experience!!!! I hope you get to get out and enjoy the day-it is going to be nice!!!


Bill in Lawrence

P.S.: I will look beyond Tuesday for the first time tonight on the 0z runs!!! LOL

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Ahhhhh, the Bill ban on the models ends tonight.  Very smart!  I wish I could do it.

Gary

I am hoping to see at least 3-...8" of snow...That may be pushing it but I want to see more than 3" inches of snow