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first again nothing to say unless it is a total bust have been looking at radar and water vapor moving almost due east no NE motion...that leaves me out...Will the thunderstorms in LA choke off te gulf moisture??

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The thunderstorms in LA are a very minor factor.  They are a result of the storm approaching.  Other factors are at play on whether we will see any snow up your way at all.  The storm may track just a bit too far south.  I am not certain yet, however.

Gary

Gary

dewpoint up to 12 degrees temp still 24

It seems this will dodge south and east once again, with it being this late in the season
have we missed the "big one" this year?

This storm system is sure a good "precip"-teaser if nothing else! Watching radar this thing is expanding NE and on current trends it would blossom along I-35 up to the KC metro when it gets to Kansas... but will this track hold? I beg to differ!!!

I hope this is the "big one" Gary.  We have lots of small storms, but nothing big, so let's hope the storm tracks a bit north and we get DUMPED on!  Please Gary, my little ones are counting on ya!  :)
PS.  The realist in me predicts 2 inches ..........

Is it me or will we be lucky to get 1" out of this storm.   Mother nature can be cruel!

this is cruel...

One of the 9:00 news channels just reduced their forecast and that is always good news in my book

The NASA Story:
http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=2659


Gary,

I think the GFS will have more snow, this is the same storm that gave us the ICE Storm in December?

Hey Gary how much youthinking down here in Appleton City....I cant see your forecasts

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Daniel,

I am thinking around 2 to 3 inches your way!

Gary

Here are a couple of teasers..

First, the dual surface low.  One in TX and one near ICT.

http://www.ral.ucar.edu/weather/surface/displaySfc.php?region=ict&endDate=20080131&endTime=-1&duration=0

Second, looking at the most recent RUC

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/ruc/hr4/fp0_003.shtml

Look at the ULL forming on the 500mb.  Yes, this will dig, but how much?  Not near as far as the NAM.  Also, I can see a bit of the moisture coming in...

Watch it streaming in...

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_wv_us_loop-12.html

The moisture from this storm is not Gulf dependent.  In fact, with the dry wedge, I don't think it is a factor at all.  It may be starting to pull from the baja in fact.

Watch the loop...follow the ULL.  You can follow its spin following the CO/NM border.

Also..watch this 3 hr loop...

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_ir_enh_us_loop.html

Seems like a NE propagation to me...

Go north storm..go north..go north..go north

My CATS have WON!!! I don't care if it snows a foot now! wooooohoooooo KSU!!!!!!!

Gary,

I added up the snow totals from the previous blog and got an average of 3.42 inches. This is with 69 snow totals added. On the predictions with multiples I added those in too and added the highest number in the prediction.

Brittany

I will make a Snowfall Forecast around 10:30pm and have it on my blog.

GFS STARTING TO ROLL OUT!!

another station says we will get no snow. this is ridiculous. I think the storm will turn north.

UP TO 12HRS.

The thing to remember for me was that the GFS has been consistent with .25 to .50 inches of precip.....one run doesn't break it for me and the little twist I see on satellite is in a favorable position for snow for us.  

GFS has been most consistent and the NAM has been a joke all winter

I think the GFS is still missing in initializing the location still..atleast from what I can see on the IR/Vapor.

The RUC has it right...

I am sorry another favorable position for me its that both the other stations have backed off or even saying it won't snow at all.... everytime I have seen this in the past we have been hit with significant snow.  I love it

Come on fire dog

This is killing me!!  I hate the waiting game!  NORTH, NORTH, NORTH, NORTH!

well somebody just changed their forecast from 2-4 to dusting to 1, somebody around here is gonna be wrong again. Why is it every year some sports team in our area weather it be professional or collegate gets somebody hopes up and lets us down every time.

what a bad night.  Hawks lose, no snow, school tomorrow.  BLECHH!

still sitting at 12hrs on the GFS

andrew interesting story. :)

Still waiting for it to get off of the 12hrs!!  Im about to pull my hair out!

Scott,

Does that mean you think there will be more snow?

Fire Dog, what does the GFS look like?

up to 24hrs now

I will say 4-6 inches for LS, blue springs, independence areas.  

Looks further south to me.

Its up to 24! BUT I am NOT likeing what im seeing.  More north then the NAM BUT!

Weather team how much do you predict to fall in Columbia???
More than KC?

Scott - "the RUC has it right" ... but I am not seeing precip amounts forecast for it anywhere ... got a link?

haha i dont think i have ever hit the refresh button so many times...all waiting for new data!!

Come on fire dog what is say?

gfs yuck pewey :(

i NEED to wait till it get to atleast 36 hrs

andrew interesting story. :)

BRYAN I know what you mean!  Im hitting it on this and NOAA/GFS every 5 sec. ************* Watch Gary at 10pm. New GFS is out. Still has snow, but I'll let Gary give the details. Jeremy

remember people, the 'big' storm in the cycle would be the dec. 22nd storm.  so dont get too disapointed with this...yet.

It says .18 liquid at downtown airport by tomorrow midnight ...

 What time will the snow tomorrow here in Downtown KC?

Rick where did you see that?  

it does appear to be further north then the NAM, but it is still too far south *********** It trended less again. Jeremy

Fire Dog, does the GFS look good for snowfall? *************** Some snow. But there is no way a WSW should still be in effect. Then again that was clear to us earlier today. Jeremy

andrew interesting story. :)

andrew interesting story. :)

Which GFS do I look at?

Ok well ill look over the data at 4am to see what it says but 2-4 as of right now.

... and .18 at Johnson County Executive ... but very cold should be better than typical 10:1 ratios ...

Firedog, if I tell ya, I'll have to kill ya ...

Accuweather Pro site has numerical data output.

Andrew, that's not really a "NASA" story. The story is actually about some group interpreting NASA data. If it's really something that NASA is saying, it will be on a nasa.gov website. When you are looking for scientific information, you should always look at a PRIMARY source.

If you look closely at the site redicecreations.com, you will see it also has a story about "New world order astrologers". Not exactly what I would call a reliable, primary source of scientific information. *********** Neither is the blog it came from;) Jeremy

heavysnow look at the  00 utc and 4 panel charts are nice

I believe Gary will either keep his predictions or lower the totals.

gary says on weather plus still 1-4 I-70 southward

Jeremy ... I'm shocked! :)

Well, I am off.  Unless something DRASTIC happens 2-4, BUT it can always change.

The NWS service should definately take out the WSW. Jeremy, do you think they will keep the snow advisiory?

0Z GFS looks horrible. Most areas look to get .10-.30 inches of QPF at best. If you want heavy snow move somewhere else.

"Neither is the blog it came from;) Jeremy"

Jeremy, you're in quite the mood tonight!  LOL!

Okay I am looking at the GFS and based on it at 10 to 1 ration would be 1.25 to 4.5 inches I-70 southward..... remember the storms NEVER follow the path exactly...and the storms have been more north all winter.... I still think up to 6 is possible.

What kind of ratios can we expect?

I think the team has a done a great job holding on to the (probably correct) forecast. I know everyone wants to have a good snow, and gets excited when they hear about 5-8" totals, but if it's not happening, it's not happening. Gary is probably as disappointed as anyone.

I think the Downtown area  will still see decent snowfall amounts

Good evening again!!

The 0z Gfs-man-I can hear Dandy Don Meredith from Monday Night Football: Turn out the lights the partys over!!!! (Kind of like for us KU fans right now-oh well it was going to end sometime.....congrads to K-State-you have a great team this year!!!)

However, the 0z RUC has a different solution at 0z (6:00 A.M.) than does the GFS-it is much stronger storm and slower and is pulling warmer air in at the 850 level plus, it did indeed intialize that surface low in Texas better.

Well, now I am just enjoying trying to analyze this and learn!!!! Great opportunity to do that!!!! But man this does sting a little bit-we had so many ingredients present with this set up....

Bill in Lawrence

;O)
Ok everyone, we know why the storm is sinking south.... Gary didn't go on vacation.
j/k
Honestly, I'll be very happy if I don't have to shovel the driveway in the morning.

Does anyone think it's going to miss us altogether?  That's the impression I got elsewhere (I'm so sorry weatherteam) *hangs head in shame*

Still hoping for some good snow up north, but have a feeling I'll have to wait for the next storm.

I'm out. People, dont despair, the weather can change in the blink of an eye. I wont be surprized that when I wake up, we are still under a WSW.

gary and all, EAX just said in IEM chat they are dropping the WSW and lowering snow totals.

I was soooo hoping that this would give us south our good snow(sigh)

So close, bet yet so far!!!

I am starting not to like snow anymore

EAX will be going 1-2" for the metro

This may be a little blasphamus to the mets, but based on the statistics that 92% of all snowfalls in this area for the last 125 years fall in that 1-4" category.  Without every forecasting based on the LRC or any prediction model, once you have enough information to decipher that it will snow, you can arbitrarily forecast 1-4" and be spot on almost everytime.  Or on average 14 out of 15 snowfalls in an average season.  I am without a doubt an amateur blogger, but it seems that you can be very accurate without ever attempting to figure out which model is lying to you this time.
simple idea from a simple person

Gary's not excited about the storm.... The totals are trending down...  dusting to 2 inches in the KC area.  Gary's disappointed. :(

Kristi

Wow this is so interesting.  I just watched Gary and a competitor at the same time.  I had Gary on the cable and the competitor on hand-held battery TV, LOL.

The forecasts could not have been more different!  The other guy was calling for the biggest snow of the season so far.

This is not our day, snow lovers!!

Teacherinstjoe, what do you mean? you ppl up there have been the ones to get the decent snowfall, not south KC, so don't complain! At least you have had snow!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

no its not!!!!

warnings are now cancelled ......darn the flies!!! Jim in Clinton
************* The warnings last all of about 6 hours!

I saw that beckysma and their in house computer had snow in the north as well

Here are the 4 local stations forecast now

4-5 inches
2-4 inches
D-2 inches
D-1 inch

Andrew, I don't know why you always post that you will have a new blog or forcast up. And also, the NASA story is from another blog that you are always on, so why bring it here?

This sucks and I have to stare at the winter storm warnings knowing ill get 3 inches at most

Gary and Weather Team:

Just me again-kind of like the Saturday Night Live Skit: the People that wouldn't leave LOL

Man, the current water vapor loop is really cool-you can see that low comming together-what a great pic!!!

I just want to throw this out there: I hope my posts today did not come across as trying to challange your forecast-that for sure was not the intent at all. I was just looking at things and really voicing my thoughts out loud and seeing if any of them were even a stone's throw from being on the right track.  The more I think about them, I can see where they could be construed that way-if so, I apologize. I do often worry about going too over board with all my musings but in the end, I am a History teacher who happens to really love the weather especially winter weather but do not have much weather acumen in reality-but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night....

Oh well, I am still going to follow this for a while, because it is fascinating to follow and it is always fun to learn!!! As always, the weather team did a fantastic job and thanks for keeping the BLOG updated and providing so much information from which to learn.  But man, we had so many ingredients for a decent 4-6 inch snow for the whole area-just kind of stings to miss it beacuse we just don't have it very often. Well, at least in my little hobbyist mind we had many of the ingredients LOL!!!

Have a great evening-yea, I have to admit, I am still grasping at the 1/2 straw of the RUC hoping that for some strange reason things change in the next 4 hours-would sure feel better if that precip. in Oklahoma was heading more North!!!

Bill in Lawrence

I'm trying to find every way to get rid of the G.W. theory.

WSW is cancelled, not surprizing. I am tired, going to sleep. Ill be up in the morning to see if the storm has shifted farther north. Goodnight all. Sorry Snow lovers, this isnt your day.

I know I am being nice when I say this... and I know Gary wouldn't mind it either

But I hope this is one of those times that Gary is WRONG.  I know it doesn't happen often... but its got to happen every now and then

Heavysnow, I'm right there with you!! lol! I was hoping for at least 2", but now it looks like that may not even happen :(

David

Well, we can't have them all, although I would have liked to see a Bigger storm system out of this. oh well we have to have a possible storm miss us sometime I guess this is it.  Sorry I haven't been around much, Busy day;)
A sad trend anyway, well I hope at least Brent's area still get a good snow they deserve it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YESTERDAY WAS FUN:):):):)

I heard the newscast.  I read the NWS discussion.

I guess I will have to learn the hard way.

http://ruc.noaa.gov/disp2.cgi?/w3/rapb/plots_13km_bu/.//+sa5_p500mb+am+21

http://weather.unisys.com/radar/rad_us_loop.html

Time for bed, no reason to stay up. I still dont see how this figures in the LRC except yea, it does figure in the time frame within a few days, but that is within either way. The precip and nothing else is the same, maybe the time frame somewhat. Everyone have a good evening and go to bed, there is nothing to stay up for!~ Gary, Jeremy, and Brett, you guys are a good, accurate team! Keep up the good work and get some rest!

Bill, I think you are hilarious!!!  I love your blogs....the holiday inn comment was classic!!  Keep them up!!

I will check in tomorrow but I am not going to spend a lot of time following the storm.  I probably won't get up til noon anyway. LOL  Have a good night, everyone! :)

Kristi

Kristi, I'm jealous that you don't have to get up until noon!  I can't remember the days of sleeping in that late!  

I'm watching the radar is any of those radar echos in Wichita, and south west of them reaching the ground?

What in the name of weather is going on around here. I'm about ready to puke. For the love of weather could a storm just get organized, grow into a monter, and dump some copius amounts of snow. Why, why, why does this happen time and time again. Can someone give me some hope for snow's sake? I would love to see the radar light up like a christmas tree and suprise everyone. I want everyone to be shocked, amazed, bewildered, and awestruck at a storm that turns sharply towards us just when modern technology seems to have a handle God says "not so fast, I will orchestrate a masterpiece in which the final production is wonderfully and suprisingly different then what was anticipated." I want to will this storm into exsistence. I believe, I believe, anything is possible until the strom passes by, you've got to believe.

I still think it's too early to say how much will fall. The storm is 12 hours away.  I guess you could go ultra conservitive and say 1-7 inches and not be wrong.

You don't need NAM SAM OR WHAM,  just look at the existing pattern and use the force.  umm err I mean .. umm yeah that's what I ment.

guys,
I am puzzled by this one. The trend has been north much of the season. Is this a new trend for the storms to start tracking south? I thought the way things were going this could have been the big one for us. Do you think we will still get some larger snow amonts this season? Or do you think it is over for us?

-Rodney

The gridded MOS is still ranging around 2-3 inches for KMCI.

Sigh.

umm yeah dpollard, I think you need a social life.  Perhaps a date?? You put some thought into that one I can tell. Or do you always talk that ummm,.. dramatic?  Maybe that's why you don't have a social life? It would annoy the hell out of any normal person. Besides if you are putting so much stock into the weather as if your very existance depended on it,.I'd suggest a mental health professional. Have a drink,. get a date.

Who cares what the weather does at KMCI,.. nobody lives at the airport!!!!

You are right brian1234.  What is the station id for your house?

my station id is PWNL 69   Why?

well i think we are going to get more than  2 or 3 inches out of this storm i think we will get some where around  5 to 6 inches  the storm is going to get on top of us and just pound us

well i think we are going to get more than  2 or 3 inches out of this storm i think we will get some where around  5 to 6 inches  the storm is going to get on top of us and just pound us

that's what I mentioned earlier rodeomann, however with the data that most of the weather teams are coming out with, it does not look that impressive. However as I stated earlier, it's Kansas weather and anything can happen. It's one of the most difficult states to predict weather in. But all in all the 41 team has always done a nice job.

brian1234, grow up.

i agree with rodeomann its going to turn north and we will get pounded!!!!!!!

Hey Brian 1234 this one's for you...

As I look into the sky
and the snow begins
I see legions of angels
coming to cover our sins

To most snow gives feelings
of utmost disgust
but to me these feelings
aren't just feelings but a must

The bigger they get
the closer they seem
and one day in heaven
with them I will team!!

No one in KC wants snow more the me!!!
Unless they freeze snowballs in baggies and keep them until summer just to spite the sun and warm weather!!

no thanks ronnie, I'm perfect the way I am. How about you grow down a little and grow a sense of humor?  We already have enough wanna bee forcasters and rocket science engineers talking on this blog.

Grow up.

dpollard,

Great one! Very touching.

"As I look into the sky
and the snow begins
I see legions of angels
coming to cover our sins "

My Snowfall Forecast as of 11:15pm,

http://kcweatherblog.blogspot.com/

looks like the precip in Kansas is moving in the right way to me?  BRING THE SNOW TO APPLETON CITY PLZZZZZ

looks like the precip in Kansas is moving in the right way to me?  BRING THE SNOW TO APPLETON CITY PLZZZZZ

Thanks dpollard

I'll copy and paste that for my scrolling screen saver, I'll read it every day and think of you. Full of wonderful religious overtones. That warms my heart like a summer's day. Thank you.

Here is one for you that I would like you to read.

Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church.

Now,. back to the program.......

I think that precip might make it up here before 7am.

Hey Andrew where are you going to go to college at?

We'll be right back to the weather,after this importan tmessage:
We got to get prayer back in to the schools, and the BIble back into schools.

Now Back to Weather :)

Daniel,

Don't know yet, it could be KU or it could be Oklahoma, or I could do online college, then I would be able to get out 2yrs earlier. But I just don't know. It's something I continue to pray about.

Ummm ... can we keep the secular/religious wars out of the blog?

Rev. Rick (seriously)

I'll make a prediction right here and now that I know I'll nail.  About 12 hours from now your going to read alot of comments from alot of whiners and complainers about how we hardly got any snow. Or not enough snow. And although we all would love for a great big snow for tomorrow, (myself) included, the computer models don't look that great.  However remember Kansas weather is hard to forcast. Weather systems are codependent on other factors. Sorry to burst your bubble dpollard, but it's not god or angels.

The bottom line is that if we have 3-5 weather stations here in the KC area and they are all calling for a different forcast, what does that tell you?  They all use the same computer models. What are the differences? Ask yourself that.

Rev. Rick  LOL

Sorry Rick,

I get carried away sometimes.
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I still think we might have a chance for 3"  at least for Olathe anyway.

Ronnie, I agree, Brian's  comment about pollard was out of line.  Nobody needs to get personal here, or take things personally here.  Easier said than done? Yes.  However, this blog is the best for KC weather and it is up to us bloggers to keep it that way, and, of course, the accuracy and involvement of the wx team.  Thanks again to those I just mentioned.  I still think this is gonna be one of those surprise snows.  I am not just hoping... I am thinking so.  I don't actually like winter at all, but I think this is gonna still bring more snow than we have had.  Granted, we haven't really had more than 3 inches in the immediate metro thus far, but I feel this will be more, and all will be surprised/happy, depending on one's viewpoint.  My two cents have officially been thrown into the well.  

brian1234,

There is one who controls the wx, and the universe for that matter.

I think we all are looking at the models too much. Ban the Models! Ban the Models!

While Andy is changing into his alter boy robe and confessing his sins to Rev. Rick,... take a look at the name chart and compair it to the updated GFS model. The pricip is a teaser but it still looks encouraging.

Well put Mr. McGinniss and thank you.

Hey Andrew - it's OK, I admire your enthusiasm ... just think that it's sometimes wise to consider the venue in which those (valid) opinions are expressed.

And, Brian, I wasn't joking. :0)

Peace

Oh, no, Northlander ... my secret is out! :-)

Good Night Everybody!

I hope I wake up with good news!!

Rick-  Amen.  

Andrew,   who is this Master Meteorologist you speak of?

Hey Brian - can you post the links for that NAM/GFS comparison?

Thanks Rick, but I plane to be TV Met, but I plan to be different, w/ a different point. A viewpoint that has a biblical perspective.  

Thanks Rick, and I pray/hope/plan to be TV Met, but I plan to be different, w/ a different point. A viewpoint that has a biblical perspective.  
The one who gave me these interests in weather, will help me to be the best I can be.

Last, I looked; about 30 seconds ago, this was a weather blog.  Lets us discuss weather, if there are other subjects near and dear to your hearts find a blog of like-minded individuals and post all day and night.  Religion, hmm…not a topic related to a weather blog, not a topic of discussion.  Is a concept that we can agree to?

radar looks promising in north oklahoma hopefully it continues to increase and move northeast toward kc looks like a couple of inches not out of the question but this will not be a crippling snowstorm by any stretch of the imagination,did I just say snow storm I'm sorry I dont know what to call it.

Brian1234,

Read the Bible, it's all you need to know about the master/creator of all things.

Andrew, I'd be interested in hearing about how that would work (not here, though). Have you posted something on your blog about it?

no,. there arn't any I just wanted to see if you were that hard up for new data.  You all need to stop taking this all so seriously. It's midnight, you should be cuddled up with your wives or husbands. Instead your on here looking for "NEW DATA" There are more interesting things on the web to surf than weather. This is a great tool here, but have a little fun with it. Man it's like talking to a bunch of book worms, engineers and ultra right wing christians.

This so exciting to track this storm, I don't know if I'll be able to sleep!!

well  northlander, it seems that in andrew's mind, god controls the weather, so perhaps lets blame the master meteorologist.  I think your all missing the point here. I have stated some very valid facts here that have been missed.

Sorry Andrew I don't read fiction.

LRCfan,

I was thinking the same thing! The radar is starting to look promising.

Well, Brian, it is a WEATHER BLOG ... people who like weather and get excited over potential snowstorms tend to come out of the woodwork for such things. Yes, it's goofy, but we're nuts. Is someone forcing you to be here?

Please keep this site a WEATHER BLOG. Thanks!!!

Rick,

how what will work? You me my different viewpoints?

I've posted a little on my viewpoint in my blog, if you go through the archives, I've posted a few things about why I dont believe in Global Warming.

Andrew,I think the models are out on vacation looks like we will have some snow at least 2 inches if not a little more.

brian1234,

The Bible isn't fiction, it predicts what will happen in the future. When the world will end, and Christ will come back and reign forever.

Here we go again.....

Andrew, I've read your GW stuff ... I was more interested in what it would mean to do meterology from a biblical perspective ... seeing that I have an interest in both. Have you written a post on that on your blog?

Well b/c this is a weather blog, and I need to get to bed, and I want to respect others wishes, I'd better stop.

Anybody can email me, or PM me.

yes Rev Rick I have a man, in my office with a gun to my head. It was either read the lates popular Science mag, or got on the weather blog.

I agree withyou and I love weather.  I chased tornados for years. I'd love a huge snowstorm. And yes this is a great resource to get information from , expecially from other people around the city.  I am a realist and I make observations.  But I also have a sense of humor as well. And most people in here talk like they are meteorologists themselves.  I have my geek out moments as well. BUt many take it all too seriously... some chick says "OMG,.. will it snow will it snow... !!!! how much will it snow, will I be safe to drive, will the schools get canceled!!!  CHill out!! its just snow. It's Kansas.. and well it's rather amusing to me.

LRCfan,

I know, I believe this is the storm that hit St. Joe. with the major Ice storm in December?

Andrew, I just posted a comment to your blog ...

Hey Andrew, when is the last time you spoke to you imaginary friend?

Not yet, but I will, I guess that's what I've been doing on this blog.

Good night Andrew,. Darwin loves you.

This is my first post on this blog but I've been reading for a long time. Please, Andrew: stop the discussion of religion. It does not belong in this blog and it is only reflecting poorly upon yourself. Let's stick to talking about this interesting storm.

Speaking of which, I find it interesting that Topeka reissued the winter storm warning for Douglas County (4-6" still predicted in Lawrence). I'll be surprised if we get more than 2". Hopefully, current models are going to be proven wrong! :)

-David W. Sanders (Lawrence)

Andrew I've really lost track I believe that this is the storm I'm not totally sure you would have to ask Scott he is really good at keeping track,I know I was effected really bad from that ice storm too in leavenworth I was without power for a few days but thankfully it will not be ice this time.

I agree Brian, that sometimes people get stupid-silly over the weather. But I don't agree that most people here talk like meterologists. There are all levels of expertise here from novice to pros and some, like Andrew, who hope to be pros someday.

As for me, I studied meterology many years ago at Univ of Maryland, but didn't finish my degree for various reasons before moving on to other things. But I still can't get the weather out of my system, especially in the winter. So, if I post stuff, I hope it's not coming off like a know-it-all ... I just get fired up.

Now, tell that man with the gun to put it away ...

I pray everyday, I read His Word, and my Family prays,Reads His word,and goes to church for more spiritual food.

brian1234 why aren't you i bed?

Rick,
Got it!

I have an I phone but not an I bed..lol

yes I happen to think I'm very funny.  No seriously I'm about to turn in.  Why is it past my bed time dad?

brian, you're not funny.  You're an ass.

no father figure here... I just find it funny that you are poking at the weather bloggers for being on so late....while you are reading the same blog?  anyway off to bed I hope we can keep the blog on track and weather related tomorrow, after all this is a weather blog :)

LRCfan,

I know, I will have to see tomorrow, I better get to bed, if I want to get up around 6:30am to track this storm.  :)

I really think we should stick to this interesting storm system and future weather issues,Andrew you are a cool dude but the religion should stay out of here and let's stick to this storm I encourage you to keep your faith elsewhere and continue your faith..

Andrew at least we agree on one thing.. I think we are going to get more snow than expected.  The amature meteorologist in me predicted 5-8 inches for the JOCO area, with blowing snow decreased visibility, and cars all over the road cause most weather teams have down graded the storms , and well since only fools believe everything they read and belive it to be true, they will not use good judgement and comon sense, and there will be accidents. Watch how many cars are off the roads tomorrow , oh and for some real entertainment value, look for the 7 car pileup on the interstate tomorrow afternoon.

let's keep things civil. that's what's so great about the discussion in this blog. where's gary and jeremy when we need them?

lol,. sorry but with a name like ronni I can't take you serious. And yes I am very funny. And to a person such as yourself I may be an ass. But to most others I'm a riot.

Andrew chat with you later and everyone be careful tomorrow if this does indeed materialize..

Brian, I thought there was more interesting stuff elsewhere on the internet?

i'm not making fun of all bloggers, just the ones who are wound up too tight.  And no I'm not refering to Andrew, he's pretty mellow, and that's cool. If you took the time to read what I said a few minutes ago, then I wouldn't have to repent,..oooppss,. repeat myself again.

yes you all have bene warned of my prediction,. well there is, but watching porn all night has it's limits. Plus I'm fresh out of lube..  

come on seriously , nobody smiled at that.??.. wow what a bunch of stiffs.  It's actually more intertaining on here.

here check out this latest website that is really hot....

http://community.nbcactionnews.com/blogs/weatherblog/archive/2008/01/30/2461959.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

alright i'm off to bed,. I can't use all my material in one night,..

Ok serious now,. everyone please be careful tomorrow. Take yourtime getting in to work in the morning, and wath out for those crazy drivers. Cause you know, that everyone on the road is either a crazy person or a moron. And your the only normal driver on the road ,. right?

Good night everyone. be safe tomorrow.

Brian, for what it's worth,  I smiled at your humor ...

If we're all really lucky, this will all be gone in the morning!

It's cool that we have fun in here and talk about weather but we must respect Gary and channel 41.

I'm surprised Gary has not woken up and wrote a new blog about the increasing area of snow just south of wichita lol

LRCfan, that is very interesting - looks almost like the upper low is closing off ...

it sure does these models have not done too good this winter so far and the gfs has been the best so far this season.

I have a feeling the precip will rotate around the low pressure.   It will have a hard time reaching all this way.   We will have to wait for the low pressure to get closer before any snow starts here, which will be tomorrow sometime, if we are lucky.