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The Wild Ride Continues...Updated

Watch NBC Action News Sunday Night at 10pm and also beginning at 5am Monday morning for the latest on the chance of snow on Tuesday.

 

What a wild day across the region!  I hope no one slept thru this, days like today are very rare!  Here are some of the highlights.

KCI: Thunderstorm, rain, snow, dense fog.  Total snow: 0.2"

Trenton, MO:  2.5" Snow

Clinton, MO:  Dime Size Hail

Whiteman Air Force Base:  Nickel Size Hail

The active weather fired up north of a warm front today.  The temperature contrast was unbelievable from north to south.  Kansas City was 36 today, while Tulsa, OK was 73, and Dallas, TX recorded a high of 81!  The warm front lifts north of the area on Monday and I expect the metro to be in the 65 degree area.  The warm front should make it to around the north side of Kansas City.  Areas like St. Joe and points north will likely stay in the 40s, with 70s to the south.

Dense Fog Advisory in effect tonight into Monday morning.

For this evening and tonight...areas of dense fog have developed across the region and will linger into early Monday.  Visibilities have been reduced to a quarter mile of less in spots.  Since temperatures are above freezing I'm not expecting freezing fog at this time as temperatures should linger in the neighborhood of 32-36 overnight.  Please be careful traveling around the region late tonight!

Heading into the early part of this week the big question is what will happen on Tuesday.  The NAM and GFS are on somewhat opposite ends of the spectrum.  The NAM pushes the cold front thru Kansas City and keeps the vort max slanted forward...or positively tilted.  This would keep the surface low to our south and give the southeast part of the viewing area the best chance of seeing rain/snow.  The GFS on the other hand has a well developed vort that pushes a band of snow through much of the viewing area on Tuesday.  On the GFS scenario a rain/snow mix to snow would be possible in some areas with all snow the farther north one travels.  The GFS has accumulating snow for the region. 

Here is the update...

The 00Z trended towards the NAM and moved the precip. area farther to the northwest.  However, so did the GFS.  What does this mean.  If the GFS is correct there would be a rain/snow mix or maybe even some freezing rain in spots on Tuesday afternoon.  Then change to snow at some point.  The GFS track would favor accumulating snow for northern areas that have been hit pretty hard this winter.  Southeast areas would see rain, a mix, and then a little snow.  Both the GFS and NAM runs give KC a varying amount of snow.  Both models are still pretty far apart, but both are trending for more of a storm for the metro and many other locations.  Here is the difference right now.  Below is the 00Z GFS for Tuesday afternoon.  The freezing line is a little north of Kansas City. 

gfs2.gif


Now this is the NAM at the same time.  Notice how much farther southeast the storm is located.  Time will tell and likely a combination of the two will be reality.  Right now I would lean a little more in the GFS direction.

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Gary will have the latest on Monday morning!  Rest up...the next couple of days look fun!

Thank you again to everyone who sent in pictures, storm reports, and posted comments today!  We have the best bloggers any weather team could ask for!

Jeremy

 

 

Published Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:02 PM by Jeremy WxPlus

Comments

 

JPnKC said:

Great half time update Jeremy.

I was traveling back to KC today from Central KS- I missed all the fun up here but had some interesting weather during in Central KS around McPherson-
I left Hutchinson Ks and it was 46 and sunny- I drove North 30 miles to McPherson and headed East on Hwy 56 low clouds looked to be forming around McPherson and within 15 miles to the East it was cloudy and foggy and the temp dropped to 35 degrees- it was rather exciting to see this happening all within 30-45 minutes.

Have a great night

JP

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Excitement like today is fun.  That must have been pretty crazy driving into the clouds and cold air.  Anyone visiting KC was probably in shock today:)

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 7:46 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

interesting day, definitely.  at one point everything was white up here with heavy snow falling.  i am hoping that both tuesday and thursday produce some snow...i am ready for another cold spell! i dont like that 50 on the forecast for this weekend! what are we looking at for thursday? it doesnt look too impressive at the moment...

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Best chance this week for accum. snow is Tuesday.  What is your season snow total at now PVT?  I know Trenton is at or a hair above 30" now.

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 7:51 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

I hope the ingredients for Tuesday comes together and materializes so snow could be the outcome...Hopefully accumulating snow!!
February 3, 2008 8:10 PM
 

WinterTracker said:

NATIONAL WEATHER PERSON'S DAY IS ON TUESDAY!:) Maybe "fate" will turn the tide and we'll have a snowstorm.

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I don't know if the combination of election day and weather person's day can fail us:)

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 8:13 PM
 

Brent said:

lol so we are still waiting on the new data?...

I will be hoping to see a 100% chance of snow tomorrow morning!

lol
February 3, 2008 8:26 PM
 

KC_Hams said:

I nearly slept through it. I woke up hearing lotsa thunder, then looked out and saw the sleet on the front porch.
Double take.
Triple take.
Then went back to bed.
Great day to sleep in...

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What is sleeping in?  Haven't done that in ages:)

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 8:28 PM
 

nwmissourigal said:

My husband drives over the road and he just got home from KC and picking up a trailer to take to Waterloo, IA. He ran into a guy that had just came from Des Moines and he said that the fog was terrible up north and they have a lot of snow and the road were really slick. He is debating about going up tonite. It was wild weather morning. My goodness, the weather didn't know whether to wind it's butt or scratch it's watch!!! LOL I am hoping for snow on Tuesday and Thursday!! Maybe the snow God's will be smiling on us twice this week. Everyone have a great week...nwmissourigal

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Thanks for the update.  Watch out for that fog tonight!

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 8:47 PM
 

adogg said:

I sure hope drexel gets some snow tue.
February 3, 2008 9:13 PM
 

KCHusker said:

Giants WIN!

What a game!

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I hope Pats fan from the blog gets some snow Tuesday to ease the pain. 

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 9:15 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

jeremy,

26.3" after .2" today.  nothing significant for a while, though...

the 00z nam is trending to a snowier solution, compared to the 18z.  still not too impressive, but atleast its heading the right way...on a separate note, last thursday's event(or lack thereof) was due to you and I bad mouthing the nam.  so, i wont say anything about the nam this time around...

murph

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The NAM finally stepped up last Thursday.  I think it is now 1 for 10 this season:)  The 00Z did trend a little snowier, but not too much.  After the 00Z GFS I'll add some thoughts.

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 9:17 PM
 

Scott said:

And you won't do it for ages, Jeremy.  LOL

I think you all can go with a one to three again for this storm.  I see the last flyer coming through on the 7th as well.  After the 10th, it looks like we will begin to trend warmer.  Sure, we will see some cold due to storms, but in general...

I think after next week, we can say goodbye to polar bear stench.  Maybe an occasional Canadian, but that is all that is left.

LOL

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Tuesday is looking better...the NAM trended towards the GFS.  Hopefully this isn't a tease.  The election day and weather person day is a combo that should produce snow:)

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 9:24 PM
 

Randy Cooper said:

HOW BOUT THEM GIANTS!!! I'm a Colts fan but was rooting for the giants; you can never go wrong with a Manning! lol
February 3, 2008 9:40 PM
 

CentralOP2 said:

NO Scott! I want the cold air to stick around for awhile. However, it does seem like we warm up so much faster than the Midwest due to the lee trough influence and SW flow that breaks through occasionally.
Also, I wonder why the Pacific is so active again with no signs of ridging at all in the models?
February 3, 2008 9:40 PM
 

LRCfan said:

Jeremy,are we expecting some precip tonight I noticed some blimps to the southwest on radar?
February 3, 2008 9:41 PM
 

Scott said:

CentralOP, this is what is suppose to happen regarding the ridging.  This part of the pattern ends shortly.  After about the 10th we will be done with this active pattern, and transistioning back to the dominant zonal flow.

I was just doing some analysis over the last two weeks.  Gary is right where he indicated there was a buckling of the cycle..I estimate it to be less varied than a week as mentioned, but find it to be about two/three days.

It appears that just within the last day or so, it may have snapped back.  We will have to watch the next week to confirm.

It is amazing to track these events in a numerical manner to really see the trending of the cycle.  I cannot speak to the maps, but at the surface, it is really something to behold.
February 3, 2008 9:46 PM
 

Scott said:

Some blimps?  Wow..maybe they are already coming back from the superbowl. [lowecase in my book until the Chiefs are in it]

I wonder what kind of echo those have on radar?

blimps..LOL...blips
February 3, 2008 9:47 PM
 

mag63 said:

its getting foggy here in bonner springs
February 3, 2008 9:48 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

LRCfan,

I think that is fog or low clouds
February 3, 2008 9:50 PM
 

LRCfan said:

lol Scott I'm sorry I must have had a couple too many I mean radar echoes I've seen too many blimps today :)
February 3, 2008 9:50 PM
 

LRCfan said:

yea pretty foggy now we are included in a Dense Fog Advisory be careful tonight and tomorrow morning.
February 3, 2008 9:51 PM
 

Weatherfly said:

wow---look at the amount of precip the new GFS puts out for tuesday.  Lets hope this trend continues...
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/00/images/gfs_p48_048l.gif
February 3, 2008 9:53 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Giants WIN!!
February 3, 2008 9:54 PM
 

sedmo said:

Just checking in here in Sedalia.  Very foggy out.  I just drove home from work 15 miles south of town.  It was a slow go.  Where I was today no snow or freezing rain or sleet or hail..we just had rain with some rumbles of thunder.  Just watched the Super Bowl..wow, what a upset!

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Thanks for the update!  That was a great game...I really liked the score at the end of the first quarter;)

Jeremy
 

February 3, 2008 9:54 PM
 

LRCfan said:

weatherfly,does look like alot of moisture I agree now whether it's snow or rain is the question.
February 3, 2008 9:54 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

We are to get hammered... I hope!!
February 3, 2008 9:57 PM
 

heavysnow said:

The new GFS is moving precip to Wednesday or is this a different piece of energy?
February 3, 2008 9:57 PM
 

Weatherfly said:

looke like the thickness levels are below the 540 line, I hope it's snow!
February 3, 2008 9:57 PM
 

heavysnow said:

Are we sure the warm air is going to move in tomorrow?  Its seems to be stuck in the same spot all day today

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Likely will have a hard time getting much north of KC!  That's why I adjusted temps a bit.

Jeremy

February 3, 2008 10:00 PM
 

LRCfan said:

ngm also has some precip 48 hours out.
February 3, 2008 10:04 PM
 

simplykristi said:

The Super Bowl was awesome!  Probably the best one I have ever seen.  I am soo glad that the Giants won.  We had people over...  Three were rooting for the Giants and three were rooting for the Partiots.  One did not care.  Might call us a house divided. :)

It is very foggy here tonight.  

Kristi  
February 3, 2008 10:25 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

dang, my Pats lost. Feeling depressed...
February 3, 2008 10:27 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

Do you think you can cure my temporary depression with 2-4 inches of snow on Tuesday?
February 3, 2008 10:45 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

PatsSoxCelts said:
Do you think you can cure my temporary depression with 2-4 inches of snow on Tuesday?



How about 3-4 Feet, that sounds better!!!!!!!!!

February 3, 2008 10:50 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

jeremy,

its 32 degrees out right now.  i dont know whats going on out there, but something is precipitating-it looks like snow, but its small.  the fog is bad as well, but something else is falling from the sky.  are you sure things arent going to get icy overnight?

what are those echoes on the radar? its moving too fast for fog...unless if we are about to experience a stephen king novel or something...
February 3, 2008 10:52 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

WHAT A DAY...
Sorry I didn't report on the AMAZING WEATHER DAY in St. Joe today, today was a long, albeit fun day!!!
My dad's Superbowl party was today and he looks forward to it every year, so I was up helping out alot today before the game...
At just before 11 A.M. I was with mother making a run to the store, what a sight, HUGE GODZILLA SNOWFLAKES started, not drifting, but POURING from the sky creating a dusting of accum. in a flash, they felt like small snowballs hitting my face almost it was cool to say the least.  Later it transitioned to a Snow sleet, then sleet rain mix, some parts of the area look like at one point they had at least a half inch to an inch of "white slush".   I wanted to report to you guys, but back home with all the extra stuff plugged in to keep food hot and a certain new T.V. we got, we kept having a breaker go off, not something you want to happen near the superbowl, so since the computer is on the same breaker that was going out, I decided to keep it shut off instead of risking more problems, hence the lack of me on the blog today.
So I used the TWC radar to keep up on what the precip. was doing before the game and I noticed what looked like thunderstorms south of K.C. around were there were also heavy colors but those were likely enhanced by "brightbanding" caused by the sleet.  Anyway, the party turned out great, it was a VERY GOOD GAME even though our guys were not there:(, and I got to experience what I call a slush storm, a good game and now dense fog has moved its way into Saint Joe and my digital thermometer is hovering around 33.6 degrees F. ( ironically it was reading about that same temp when the ice was still accumulating on the trees during the ice storm, but so far there has been no refreezing but it might be very close, it is down about a degree from earlier this evening so something to watch anyway...
well that is the update from my neck of the woods, again I do apologize for being so absent from the blog during such a neat event when I was off;)
February 3, 2008 11:26 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

It is extremly foggy outside now
February 4, 2008 12:20 AM
 

Matt P said:

Gary, what's the forecast in Boston on Tuesday?  Since Mayor Menino has scheduled a championship  parade, I want to make sure the city has good weather for it. Oops!  Guess there's no need.  How about those Giants!!!!!!
February 4, 2008 1:22 AM
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