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Okay...totals around 10" to the north will probably be common when it is all done.

Jeremy

Very light dusting just north of Pleasant Hill.  Once again, the KC dome has lived up to it's reputation... and once again, we should've just stuck with the initial snow forecasts.  You guys have done an AWESOME job covering this storm (as always), but in the end, it always does exactly like you thought it would in the beginning.  Will be lucky to see an inch over here (based on what I'm seeing on radar currently).

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If the band can just push east!  It is making good progress right now, but areas SE of the metro will see the light totals again.

Jeremy

2.5", flurries, breeze seems to be picking up at I-29 & 64th.

Looks like the snow is pivoting just west of KC. Hope it moves east before falling apart!

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Thanks for the report!  I'm guessing KCI is somewhere around this total.

Jeremy

Probably around 4" back west here in the boonies of Salina... I sorta nailed this forecast not to make a huge scene... I'm not bashing Gary here either, his LRC is why I KNEW the heaviest would stay north and follow the same path.. We have had over 30" of snow now this winter here and we still have a good solid month to go where we can get more heavy snows!

Now KC gets to have the back side of the system and this should produce an inch or 2 before it moves on out ******* Good morning, We are thinking the same way, one to two more as it moves through.  Brett

Here in Albany, MO, northeast of St. Jow, we have recieved about 8"-81/2", and it is still coming down.

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Say hello to 10"...you'll see it!

Jeremy

I hate to change my snowfall report so much on you guys as I know you count on accuracy, but venturing out a bit further from the house I got three measurements at 3.7. Did locate two different drifts on the north side of the house at 11 inches. Light snow just now begining again here in NW Wyandotte County..So looks like from radar we could pick up another 1-2 inches easily putting my area near the 6 inch mark. Not bad guys, Not bad at all!

Sorry the changes...next time I'll have to just have to get away from the house for a more accurate measure.

Bryan

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Bryan,

That's ok...we appreciate the accuracy.

Jeremy

I'm starting to hate snow...the way it mocks us here in Johnson County. =)

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The tease may end a little bit this morning.

Jeremy

Olathe KS (161st & Mur-Len) about half an inch in my yard.  Not sure where that 2" was taken at.

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Thanks for the report.  2" is a possibility especially around K-7/10.

Jeremy

Jeremy:

Good early snowy morning to you!!!! Lawrence kind of caught lightening in a bottle again!!! I am just now getting ready to go out and start my massive play day in the snow!!!! We are approaching 5 inches here in SW Lawrence by the looks of everything-I will get a measurement in an hour or so!!!

The forecast was dead on for Lawrence!!!!

Bill ya I am now a 6 year old in Lawrence

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WOW!  Great news for you!  Keep us posted this morning.  Have fun in the snow.

Jeremy

Just a dusting- 1/4" here in Paola, thank heavens, certainly hope it continues to push north and not come east, the radar looks ominous, lurking out there ready to dump on anything in it's path!!  I'm just thrilled that we're having school, roads will be manageable and a safe here and perhaps flooding will be kept to a minimum from all the moisture we've had the past couple of days!  As for the mud and muck....I think that is going to be with us for a long, long, long time.  Glad to see you made it in safely Jeremy, everyone else be careful out there.

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You should see some light snow this a.m., if the total changes let us know.  I stayed close to the station last night.  Only slept about 3 hours though:)

Jeremy

Flakes are getting bigger here at I-29 & 64th. (Snow flakes, just to be clear.)

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Snow band is pushing back into the city right now.

Jeremy

Easy snow day for the kids in Platte City!  I didn't get a measurement before I left for work, but it looks to be approaching 5".  What's really amazing is KCI is approaching 3".  You could really tell the difference on the roads.  I was tredging through snow in Platte City, and could barely make it around.  Much less and easier travel by the airport.  Keep in mind, Platte City is only about 6 miles north of KCI.  Looks like I lucked out on this one.  I'm thinking 7" before it's done!  My sympathy goes out to you folks in the south; really... I know what it feels like.

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A snowy northland once again.  Hang in there...light snow is spreading over the metro right now and into parts of areas south of KC.

Jeremy

Wow, the winds are really picking up! I can't tell for sure, but looking at the radar, it seems like the intensity of the precip is decreasing. It that accurate? Or is it just that snow isn't very good on radar?

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Intensity is a little less, but still a large area of light snow...moderate in pockets.

Jeremy

It is amazing the info that is available to hobbyists on the net. I have three radars up, plus numerical forecasts from the weathercaster site, plus of course this blog.

BTW, I hope you all are not too discouraged at this storm. Every model forecast yesterday had incredible gradients right through KC. Very tough forecast.

****** Rick,  Thanks for the vote of confidence.  We knew there would be a fine line between a lot and a little, its just amazing this year it is always in the same place. Brett

8 inches just south of St. Joseph and still snowing steadily.  Travel is being discouraged and I think every school including the University here is closed today.  That brings the season total up to 38 inches for me and still adding to it this morning.

This event was pathetic!
Read the blog headings from yesterday and especially around the new time last evening. Gary could not have made it seem more sure to hit. Maybe all the latest computers SHOULD be discarded as last storm the NWS looked stupid, and this storm the amature weather community saying all day long very light totals were right. Make it sound warm and fuzzy all you want, you guys busted on this one, 2 in a row is not looking good.
I understand when we go out on a limb a day or so ahead, but given a 4-6 hour window last night before it hits and hard, to see this was plain poor! The NWS has some bags they used last week available.
Bring on Spring, maybe that is forecastable.

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Yes, it was ridiculous.  We just missed this one.  And, even though it was only 4 to 6 hours away this is just how it works sometimes.  I know you probably know that I am just sick about it.  Think about it?  We though it was heading right towards the city, and it just missed us.  Just drive 15 minutes to the northwest and you wouldn't be so upset with our forecasts?  At the same time, we understand.  We are just as frustrated as you are.

Gary

Gary, how much snow will come out of the deformation band? It is snow in here. Drifts 6" to 1'. It is snowing again here in Olathe.

Byan

Normally, I would not suggest that hitting a woman is okay for a man...... but Mother Nature better not show up my house!!

Hopefully we get something out of these bands that moving near us now.  Lee's Summit just received a dusting.  A very, very dissapointing snow event for us.

Just got back inside and measured 4 inches even now at 130th and State Avenue...Snowing pretty good right now.

Bryan

Still snowing hard in St. Joseph at 6:15.  Another snow day for me and ALL SCHOOLS in NW Missouri today, including the University, which NEVER closes.  This has been a major snow event.  I just thought this storm would move farther to the south.  
I would like to direct the attention to our bloggers about the weather in the south from yesterday.  It was a deadly day. CNN is reporting 32 people dead from the stroms throughout the south.  We may not like the snow here now, BUT we have our homes and families still with us.  Our thoughts and prayers go out to those families who lost homes, friends or family members yesterday.  A couple of 100 miles makes a HUGE difference in what we experience.  

Brian in STILL SNOWING St. Joseph, MO

A GREAT REMINDER from Jeremy,

As promised about a week ago I told you that I would contact the NWS in Pleasant Hill to get an explanation for all bloggers as to how the snow total is measured at KCI and also where.  George Amis the Observing Program Leader for the NWS at Pleasant Hill sent me some great information in regards to the measuring techniques used at KCI, and also some tips for measuring snow in your own backyards.  Once again thank you to George for the information.  



Snowfall and snow depth observations are taken every 6 hours at the Kansas City International Airport by contract observers. Midnight, 6 am, noon, and 6 pm CST. Snowfall is the new snow that has occurred since the last snow measurement...and is measured in inches and tenths. Snow depth is the amount of old snow still on the ground...or the combination of the new snowfall and old snow...and is measured in whole inches. The observations are taken near the control tower.

To take new snowfall observations when nothing is on the ground can be taken in several ways. If you take a measurement in your yard...look for the snow where it appears to be near its average depth. I.E. you don't want to take a measurement in drifted areas. If cold enough...you can use a patio...or other elevated structure such as your vehicle. If you do measure in the grass...remember when you put the measuring stick in...you will most likely go all the way down to the ground.

However...the snow might actually be sitting from 1 to 3 inches or so above the ground in the grass blades. So to prevent anomalously high readings...you want to only stick your yardstick as far down as to where the bottom of the snow actually is. If you can make or buy...the best way to get new snowfall measurements in non-windy situations...is to have a snowboard. This would ideally be a 16 inch by 16 inch piece of thin plywood painted white. You would place this on the ground or surface of the snow when there is the possibility of new snow falling.

It needs to be light enough to not sink into the old snow and heavy enough not be blown away by the wind. If on snow...the top of the snowboard should be level with the surface of the snow. It would then get swept clean prior to the next snowfall measurement.

In windy conditions...where the snowfall does not stay on the snowboard...you will need to make several measurements around the area to get an average...avoiding the highest drifts. These conditions make snow measurements much harder to do...but experience will help with this.

Snowing hard at 159th and nall.  Band of snow look good..maybe 1-2 more inches?  Id say we have 3 on the ground now.

Just had an EMS call, after we got back I measured in 4 places around the station, we have 11 inches in Wamego, Ks!!!! Awesome!

I'm sad and disappointed.  I love snow... but even though for us here in Lee's Summt it was a bust, I understand how difficult it is to forcast.  If this were rain and we only got a tenth instead of an inch, nobody would notice but when it comes to snow, it's a dusting instead of inches so some people get angry.  I would much rather be disappointed than surprised.  It's a lot safer.  Thanks for all the work you all do everyday...even the boring ones.  I will always have more confidence in the KSHB forcast than any of the others.  

Eudora is currently sitting at 4''. My guess is we will have around 6'' before its all set and done.

Just took my boy to work. Looks like we might have had some ice right before the snow, not to mention the wet roads right before the event started. Slickest driving we have had up here all winter. Snow is falling at a moderate clip and the winds seem to be picking up a bit. Little drifts everywhere, but nothing major. I measured a skosh over 3" in several spots at my house.

I do not consider this a "bust" by the weather team. They made some last minute adjustments - one moving the snow 2 counties further south, and one moving it back. I don't know what the team based these changes on, but in the end the LRC was dead-on. I would be curious why the team wavered on the LRC trend when it has been so reliable for them in the past?

Anyhow, very happy to have the snow around and hoping for another shot at record snowfall before the winter season is over. I will continue to sing the praises of the NBC weather team. Great job, guys!

Erik in Smithville

Another disappointing snow event for Grandview.  I don't think we have had a decent snowfall since March of 2004.


Nate

A glorious 1/2 inch here in La Cygne. That's plenty for me.

Gary,

Just a thought from me.  I truly enjoy following your forecasts and especially this blog.  How incredible it is to see people getting into this.  On that note I know that you have your theory (the LRC) and it is awesome.  I think you knew in your gut what was going to happen last night based on the LRC.  I hope in the future you just stick with it and call it as the LRC sees it.  Hang in there, I know it's a fine line you walk when it comes to snowfall totals.

Olathe (where there is snow taken and moved to drifts everywhere) got about 2-3" (I measured that as an average because there was drifts of snow everywhere). I do dissapointed. Im going to Lawrence today. How much did they get in their "Downtown?" When will we get more snow. All Blue Valley Schools are canceled! The snow must be at one of it's heaviest times currently,

 Byan.

My guess is probably about the same as Ricks 2.5" considering I'm just a couple of stone throws away.  However this is the first time this year when I open the storm door that it is plowing snow but most likely from blowing up against the house.  I shoveled a little path out to the girlfriends car at 5:45AM and it is covered again already.  Coming down good again.

Doug in Riverside

To be honest, at least for me, the anger that has been expressed in this blog the last several hours is not necessarily because of WANTING snow, because believe me, I would rather be disappointed snow-wise and be safe than be hit with a blizzard.  
And I don't like my husband driving down K-10 to work in his battered old car which doesn't handle well in bad weather--I fear for him every time he gets behind the wheel.  

For many of us, any anger/frustration/disgust comes from the fact that a lot of us use these forecasts to PLAN OUR WORKDAY.  I canceled all of my clients last night for today based on this information, and now am out big money for today.  It makes me look ridiculous the way I was hyping the snow to my clients on the phone.

I'm not blaming anyone because even the NWS missed this big time, but these are indeed big misses and to be honest, I'm not going to make this same mistake again. I will believe the snow totals when I actually SEE them, and drive on in to work and take my chances.

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Predicting the future is tough in any business because we are dealing with uncertainties.  If it was easy I would be a stock broker and not a Meteorologist:)  Sorry about your business day.

Jeremy

I can still see the grass in my yard! Once again, OP misses out on the good snow.

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Take a good look at the grass...it should disappear this morning.

Jeremy

This is not a bash or dig, so don't take this wrong. Why would you send your weather guy to an area that only has 1 1/2 inches of snow when some are hammering you for a bust? Wouldn't it have made you guys look better to have Jeremy reporting form KCI or Platte City where the snow totals are a bit higher? Just a thought. Jeremy looked cold! ;-)

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Jeremy is cold!  Since Jeremy is helping Brett we just had him go outside of the station.  Otherwise we could have had him out northwest of KCI.  Jenn K. is near KCI & Ryan K. is in KCK.  We have people all over.

Gary

Jeremy and Gary:

Good Morning again!! Just came in from shoveling/playing (LOL)-SW Lawrence has 5 inches on the ground (taken in 5 spots that are wind protected) and it is still moderately snowing.

If you love winter like I do, it is awesome this morning here-snowing and blowing snow with a temperature of 21. That being said, Lawrence again caught lightening in a bottle with this event-we managed to get below freezing before the onset of the precip. so evertything that fell was frozen. 9 times out of 10 that does not happen. The forecast for Lawrence and the far west part of the metro was spot on!!!

Just one other random observation: The LRC nailed this storm-the storm was there and was just as wet as the one on 12-9-simply amazing!! No, it did not hit everyone equally (remember in Novermner 2006 I was in the same boat with Baldwin (8 miles away) getting 9 inches and Lawrence getting 20 flakes) but the fact is, the storm was there and it was very wet-simply amazing!!!

Hang in there Gary, Jeremy, Brett, and Jeff-you called it as you saw it and that is all you can do!!! In reality, the forecast worked out quite well for much of the far west side of the metro!!! I can only imagine how hard all of you are being on yourselves today-don't be-all of you are excellent at what you do and are just fantastic mets. Keep that in mind today!!!!

Well, I've got two boys (and a middle aged adult) who are going to be chomping at the bit to get out and play today-the snow is very wet so I see a massive fort building project in store today plus some sled rides behind a bike!!!! LOL-Will I survive the onslaught???!!! LOL Besides, have to enjoy it while I have it-next year will be totally different!!!

Have a great day and get some rest-you deserve it!!! All of you are TIGHT!!!!

Bill in Lawrence

Gary ,Jeremy, and Brent....

Suburban Sam in South KC here..... It is snowing pretty good here now... harder than anything we had last night. Got here at 4:00am and cleared the parking lot of about 3/4" of snow/sleet and now the lot is covered again. Measuring on the railings around our deck I would say we have a little over an 1" and if the snow keeps up at this pace I could see another 2" inches by the time it is all said and done. My final prediction for Red Bridge & Blue River Rd. will be 2.5" to 3".....

Keep up the good work, and don't let all the nay sayers get you down. The Action Weather team is the Greatest and last time I checked none of you were God so if you miss the exact location of the storm path and the heaviest snow totals you are forgiven.

Sam... Out!

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Sam,

Thanks for the report.  Light snow will persist for quite a while this morning.

Jeremy

Good morning all!  I am so disappointed I love snow and it didn't come at all here in L.S. not much anyway  I think we are the only school district that will be going to school today!  So bring on spring

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You'll see light snow this morning.  Probably a total of around 2".

Jeremy

scully: I don't think there has been much anger displayed here on the blog today. 2 nights ago was a TOTALLY different story, and last night got a bit heated, too. I'm sorry you lost out on revenue today, but I think you will find you made a pretty good decision based on the information available at the time. Gary isn't going to write you a check, so try to make the best of it and treat yourself to something nice that you might not have had the time for otherwise. It's all good. ;-) Did your hubby make it to work okay? Hope so.

Cheers!

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If you have kids...hopefully they are off school.  Spending time with kids is priceless.

Jeremy

Sending my sympathy once again to you folks in the south and east.  I do wish we could all just get nailed!  Still thinking 7-8" for me inPlatte City, and just 4-5" six miles south at KCI.  What a huge difference.  Truly a hard forecast indeed.  A good job by the weather, team no matter how you look at it.  

What?!?!?!  Gary's not going to write me a check?!?!   You've got to be kidding.  I thought he and I had a deal.  Oh, well.  Guess I will just use this day to stop procrastinating and clean the house.  Yes, he got to work just fine.  I made him ring me just as soon as he got in the office.  :)

Nope, no kids, but a kitty who would like very much for me to come back to bed and snuggle with him.  :)

Looks like we are at 3.5" now here in Smithville. Flakes are smaller but still coming down at a moderate clip. Wind is picking up a bit, minor drifting continues.

Looking forward to sledding later with 4 of my 5 kids (the 10 month old just isn't in to snow just yet). I took a 1/2 snow day and don't have to work until this afternoon.

I-35 & North Brighton Ave - 1.5"

Scully:
Your last post made me smile. I was worried you would not take my comments the way I meant them after I posted. I'm glad I was wrong. I think my wife is gonna make me help her with some house cleaning so I will be in the same boat as you. Plus, me and the kids will probably get in trouble for tracking snow into the house later. I love this stuff!

Why get angry people? at last check Gary and the boys were not God and have no control which way the clouds will go. Thank you weather team for giving your best and working so hard all day and night.

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If we saw no snow that would be one thing, but it's snowing and the ground is white in most areas.  I'll take it.

Jeremy

Thanks Jeremy! I was thinking last night that if gary's mane started with ap we could call all of you pb&j lol!!!  I still find it hard that we are going to school today though I have some very disappointed kids!

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Tell them they will be smarter than others in around the area.  I doubt they will buy it though:)

Jeremy

what i think is silly is that when we get a couple inches in overland park, blue valley cancels school. i remember waiting at the bus stop as a boy and standing in a foot of snow... or maybe my parents were just trying to get rid of me. I always thought it was odd that the bus stop was always next to the trash cans.

the weather team has done a good job this season. they were right on most of this season. it's just that all the good snow was up north, so as long as the viewing area got hit then they are in the clear. the johnson county dome prevailed once again this season.

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Still snow back to Topeka...light snow through at least mid morning.

Jeremy

I think the weather team did a great job, as i remember them giving their assessment of what they thought it would do when the latest data came out, then went to NOWCASTING.  So when the storm takes a turn or tracks a certain way, they adjusted the forecast accordingly.  No way at all did they blow this forecast in my opinion. Great work Gary, Jeremy, Brett. Just hope everyone got some snow out of this, and from the reports, most did.

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Thank you so much!  Of course I agree with you and I will try to make this point in a blog later this morning.  As soon as we saw that it was going farther north, we let you know.  This is the bottom line.  And, it is snowing, which is another point I will make.  We are just off on the exact amounts.  No one had a perfect forecast.  It drives me nuts as we strive for perfection which is impossible when forecasting snowstorms.

Gary

I might be close to an inch in Blue Springs now

One pathetic little inch

Looks like there is a inch and a half of snow in Raytown.  Microscopic snow flakes just can't add up.

Hello NBC,  reading a couple of the blogs on here, whatever.  That was not a blown forecast and I am in Olathe.  You guys did good with this one.  We had a quick 2"last night and now there is atleast 3, steady snow falling, and maybe  1-2 inches more.  That equals 5 inches.  Which is 4.5 more inches than what I heard elsewhere. So I am happy.  Your forecast was not a bust at all.  Not even close!  
Winterstorms are like predicting when the sun will burn out, LOL.  Plus its not over yet!  Great job, no doubt about it.  Not to mention you kept updates the entire time.... that again is the key people need to realize.  Have a great day, you did good!  

NW Ray County, just north of Lawson...measured 4.5 inches...we have drifts of 11 inches in places.  Still getting snow, but it's pretty light as of right now.

I have to agree, you guys did a great job on the forecast!

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Not perfect, but not a dud.

Jeremy

anyone know what the total accumulation is for up north for this season? that would be interesting to know,.

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Brian, they are likely up to near 35 inches or more.  We will get some of those in the blog later today.

Gary

So how many hits did you guys get this time?
I was hoping for more, but for me, 2inches is better than none!

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Still not done snowing.  Light snow back to Topeka.

Jeremy

i guess i should have been more specific,. up north meaning the places that were hit the hardest in the past few weeks.

Just to be sure, when I said 2inches is better than none, I didn't actually get two inches.

AMAZINGJOB WEATHER TEAM!!!!!!......your probably guess....North Leavenworth here and we are buried under 7 inches of snow and it is still snowing. It amuses me how upset the people in the southland are over just a dusting, drive 30 miles North, get out play in it, heck if the urge strikes I am sure liots of folks will let you shovel for them, then get back in your cars and go back to the south....TAA DAA...problem solved.
As a side note to the person who cancelled there work day based on a weather forecast, isn't that a bit like sneezing at night and cancelling all plans for the next days because your sure your sick, I think?? we are all adults here and can acknowledge the fact that the Weather Team did the best job they could at pin pointing who what when and where, given the fact that they are all men dealing with a very fickle female...Mother Nature....so pull on your big girl/boy pants and stop whining.

Jeremy/Gary---It is still snowing lightly here in Berryton--My wife and I are working from home today--couldn't get put of our area--almost got stuck but made it back to the driveway--I measured 7.2 inches--Topeka so far has 7 but with the snow the last hour another quarter to half an inch has fallen.  We have drifts around 1 foot to a foot and a half common.  I know the northern areas have larger drifts.  I will send another total when it is done snowing.  That puts us at the house over 30 inches.  I started snowing heavily here around 7:45pm last night.  I noticed on the radar that the southeastern corner of Shawnee county was pure white which meant pretty heavy snowfall.  Take care--Michael/Berryton/Topeka

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Michael,

Thanks for the snow report.  Send about 3" of  that to the south side of KC:)

Jeremy

We got barely an inch in Marceline last night...I hope the deformation band will come through and drop a couple more.

I have 3" at 114th and N Oak. Light snow falling.

can you tell my wife why they ate extending coverage and not showing the Today Show? Ya'll are acting like this is a major snowstorm. Even up north it isn't that bad. Meanwhile I have to hear the wife complain that you guys ate extending coverage when its not a necessity??

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The Today Show is on 38 the Spot right now.  Has been since 7am.  Sorry...10" of snow in parts of the viewing area is major. 

Jeremy

Raytown is still having school also.  But my kids arent' going.  The roads are too bad, and I don't trust other drivers.  Wish we had had more!  Better luck next time.

Looks like a good 2 inches + in Gardner.  

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You'll close in on 3" before it ends.

Jeremy

The schools right next to each other Raytown, Grandview, Hickman Mills, and Lee's Summit all have school today

The dragon is pleased to still see rooftops and definition between the driveway and the lawn. Everyone can claim victory because A) it did indeed snow and B) it snowed a lot in some places that were forecast to get a lot.

BUT

As someone earlier said, decisions are made based on the data at hand and the Dragon made a decision to take the dogs in to be boarded a day early. That cost some money that wasn't really necessary, not to mention that the pups had to spend an extra night away from home. The Dragon's decision, to be sure, but based on being in that mysterious 4-8 inch band that never made its way south.

We've got to remember that despite the effort to know everything about everything, it's still Mother Nature and her whims that rule. The Dragon would like to take some credit, though, for whatever POOF occurred.  ;-)

Be safe, all.

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It didn't go "poof".  Poof, we should save your favorite term for when it does go poof.  This was a major snowstorm that just shifted north only by two counties.  This is where we said it would be a couple of days ago.  Then, we thought it was taking direct aim on the city and even though it did hit, the bullseye ended up just a few miles away.

Gary

.5 inches in Harrisonville dusting at most
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how did I know this would happen

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Brent,

Now, the question is.......will Harrisonville get hit by one before the season is over?  There will be more chances, but this was another frustrating one.  At least you did get 1/2 inch and it is still snowing.

Gary

Saying you don't understand why there's extended coverage on the news this morning just shows your selfishness.  If we had extended coverage of an area hit by a tornado would this also make your spouse angry?  Weather affects MANY people in a station's viewing area in MANY different ways people!!!

Gary, Jeff, Jeremy, and Brett:  Please ignore the dissenters, the intolerant, the rude, the naysayers.  Thank you for your concern for the safety of others.  Most here appreciate all that you do, more than you'll ever know!!!

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We value everyone's opinion.  But overall people want local information versus national news.  And yes we know today was a big national news day.  There are many sources for national news, but few for those that want local info.

Jeremy

I can still see the ground here in Warrensburg.  It's snowing nicely right now.  Gotta get the kids to school. . .

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Hopefully you end up with 1" of snow:)

Jeremy

Gary, Jeremy, and Brett,
It looks like 1 to 2 inches here in south Raytown.  I have not been outside to take a measurement yet.

Good call on the storm....  You nailed it on Monday saying that heaviest snow would fall just to the north and west.  And that is where it fell.  You made the adjustment like NWS yesterday when you thought the heaviest would fall across the metro area.  But, then you made the adjustment at eight last night saying that the heaviest would just fall to the north and west.  And that is where it fell.  

Many people were impacted by the severe weather last night in AR, KY, and TN.  I haven't had a chance to check out websites to see what the actual damage was last night..  Take a moment to think about what happened down to the south.

Kristi

Gary, so defensive. The Dragon didn't say it went POOF, only that in some areas there was some POOFing based on that 6pm forecast, even the 10pm forecast. It's okay, really. You're still the most accurate.  ;-)

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Poofdragon,

I am not being defensive.  It really didn't go poof.  It only goes poof when it falls apart and dies out.  This storm produced exactly what I thought it would produce, but not in the exact locations we predicted yesterday.

Gary

Where can you find the official snowfall totals at kci?

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Climate summary from 6am courtesy of the NWS.

Jeremy

Okay jeremy i told them and your right they didn't buy it :) i can't believe they didn't cancel my oldest bus was 25min late!

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At least they won't have to go into the school in the summer:)

Jeremy

wow,. three feet total for up north this winter,.

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A couple of spots are now pushing 50"!!  Hmmm...didn't I hear that from someone earlier?

Jeremy

Gary & Team:

I have been lurking for some time. This is my first post. I moved here in 2005 after living in Wisconsin for 31 years. Your weather team is as good or better at weather prediction as any TV weather staff I have seen including in the Milwaukee market where I lived for the last 16 years of my time in Wisconsin.

Obviously, I am quite acquainted with snow storms. One thing I learned years ago is that the exact track and intensity of snow storms is difficult to predict because they are highly dynamic weather events subject to many influences.

I believe your forecast for this storm was generally pretty accurate but, as I would observe, this storm did not intensify as much as anticipated. I could see this when I went to bed at 10:00pm last night. Generally, from my time in Wisconsin, I believe Kansas City is too far south to receive "many" significant snow events and if the area does receive a 12"+ event, it is indeed a rare. In case anyone is interested, here is today's forecast for my old hometown of Milwaukee:

Today: Periods of snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. High near 33. Breezy, with a northeast wind around 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 10 to 16 inches possible.

Please keep up the high quality work!

Bob

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Bob,

Thanks and welcome to the blog.  I can't even imagine having a forecast like that one.  This storm never really intensified, until right now as it is leaving and heading towards your hometown.

Gary

I must be an idiot.  Can you give me a link to where the kci snowfall total is located?

Be careful what you wish for.  I can't believe anyone would consider this weather exciting and wish for heavy snow.  It brings destruction, school closings, and how would you like to be the one with  a car in the shop from a pile up today?  If you suffer a loss from the weather, you may change your thinking.  I log in to for information being the weather phobic that I am. I am thrilled when the forecast is wrong and it does not materialize. Be careful everyone. It' s no joke out there.

A hair shy of 1" at 85th and Ward Prkwy and the snow is dying down already at 8:30am.  Never thought I'd see the day when the 9pm weather on that "other" channel was more accurate.  

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Well, one out of 10 isn't bad.  Just kidding.  Even that forecast wasn't perfect. 

Gary

just over 2" in Prairie Village. I was hoping for the 6-10...

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Roberto,

It went just a bit too far north.  At least it snowed.

Gary

Good morning Gary and the weather team.

Here's the current storm total's from Grandview....

1.50 inches rain
1 - 1.50 inches snow

Road conditions are snow covered with ice underneath in places.

Great call on the storm...   Keep up the great work that you all do for us....

Bill

Gary and the Weather Team,
Thanks for all of your hard work and sleepless nights. I watched Gary on 1442 at 7 last night and he was telling all of us about the possibility of 6" widespread over the Metro. I watched him again at 9 and could see the disappointment on his face and hear it in his voice to tell us that the track had moved north and the 6" widespread was not going to happen. This had to be terribly disheartening for all of you - it's like telling your kids they can't go to a party after you've told them it's okay.

Please keep doing what you are doing and the way you are doing it! You are still the best!
Barb

Macnkck: the Dragon concurs.

I measured a few spots, sidewalk, driveway, ect., and i keep coming up with 7-8 inches.  Pvt Murphy, LRC, was wondering what you came up with for Leavenworth.

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Thanks for the report.  What's the season total now PVT?  You must be near 30-35"?

Jeremy

Hyway 169 & 108th St

3.5 to 4 inches so far. 1.5 inches in the last hour or so.

A lot of blowing snow. Just got back from the plaza and traffic is a nightmare. Snow packed roads everywhere. Lots of vehicles in the ditch. Traffic is moving very slow.

Took me 1.75 hours to go to the plaza and back.

Thanks guys.
Drew

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Drew,

Glad you are safe!  The roads around the Plaza were just wet before 6am, now they are snow covered or slushy and very slippery.  Use caution wherever you travel today.

Jeremy

What a morning. To wake up to just everything covered in inches of snow. Measured a few spots and ranged from 5 to 7.5 inches. Wohhooo and still snowing. So here are 5 pictures

http://home.everestkc.net/skyblue/snow.jpg
http://home.everestkc.net/skyblue/snow1.jpg
http://home.everestkc.net/skyblue/snow2.jpg
http://home.everestkc.net/skyblue/snow3.jpg
http://home.everestkc.net/skyblue/snow4.jpg

Hello!

1.75 inches at 79th and Lackman in Lenexa.  That was at 8 and it's been lightly snowing since then.

Keep it in perspective, it snowed and the kids got out of school for the most part.  It is a good day!!

Steve in Lansing,
Thanks for sharing the pics! :)  I love the pic of the snow on the bike.

Kristi

I'm SO depressed...

I didn't want the kids to have a snow day but I wanted LOTS of snow for once...

Guess I'll keep dreaming -- Lee's Summit always gets left out lately...

Bummer...

Lori

Gary, at 8:00 9.5 inches today.  someof the public works snow plow drivers say higher amouts in other parts of the City.  Before yesterday Ihad 28.8 add in the 2 inches from yesterday that is 30.8 and this 9.5 is <<<< 40.3 ihes this season.

We are still getting accum'ing snow here as well  by noon it could be 10.0 inches.    GOOD JOB  Like I said last nite from my house to downtown KC is only 45 miles!  TED

Here at my place in SW Topeka we have about 7.5 inches.  I had a 13 inch drift on my front porch.  It is still snowing moderately at times though I think any more accumulations will be light.  WOW!  This takes us to just under 30 inches for the season at my house anyway.  Mike

Well, I had a hard time falling alseep last night cause I was curious to see what would fall and I would wake up to. Well, I was a bit disappointed about the snow. I still se some blades of grass poking out. Not much here in my neighborhood of Blue Springs. I of course wanted so much more. Yet again, I feel like I only got a dusting, although the groud is a bit more covered than normal. Oh well, I missed it again.
I still apprciate all of your hard work guys, and thanks for always keeping us up to date with what's going to happen, what you think will happen, when things change, and what will end up happening. Thanks again weather team.
Krista

I think everyone has done a great job trying to predict the impossible. As I tell my students everyday, things change and you have to learn to adjust.  As for the snow, I'm waiting for it to stop before I go measure. Snow is still coming down, being that it started snowing around 7:15 it has been snowing for about 14 hours. Truly amazing. I wouldn't be surprise if there is already 10 inches on the ground. I'm sorry for those in the south who didn't get as much, I'm more than willing to share. It makes for a long day when one has to shovel drives and sidewalks for older family members. I'll let you know snow totals once it stops snowing, unless I decide to go out sooner because of curiosity.

When i took my gf to work, was people that were stuck, couldnt get moving ect., I try to help, just the way i am i guess, i stopped with my flashers in the middle of the street to keep people from hitting the one car, and 3 trucks sat behind me and watched as i pushed the car out by myself, what i'm saying i guess is some people just don't have a heart anymore.  Them are the ones i hope need something sometime, and nobody helps them. (venting over now) LOL

10.75 inches and still snowing just south of St. Joseph.  Also 5 foot drift in front of the barn.  Will have to wait for the neighbor to balde us out, or my brother in-law.  Otherwise we are snowbound.  That brings the total for the season to just under 42 inches at my house.

Still snowing and blowing hard at my rural home out by Stilwell.  I am taking a day of vacation rather than try to county roads.  Be safe!

I cant measure right now but it looks like a lot of snow here in Parkville, maybe 5 or 6 inches.

hi all i am here in independence and the snow has basicly stoped
well atleast there is some snow on the ground. don't know how much. looks like to me maybe 2-3 inches.
you guys did great.... keep up the good work!
and for the people are putting the weather team down your just mad cause you didnt see the 6-10'' if you did you would not be saying that.
good day all and enjoy what you got :)

South of Basehor along I-70 we had a good 5" maybe more at 7:00 this morning and it was still snowing then.  Lots of wind, we were seeing some drifting.
This was the most snow in one event we've had this season and we've seen A LOT of snow, more than I rember in many years.

So when is our next chance decent of chance of snow?

Good morning from Easton, MO.  Just outside and got 1/2 of my driveway shoveled.  I measured 10 inches.  Needless to say I live on a rural road and of course the plows do not come by until at the end.  Guess I will be having a snow day from work.  Supposed to be in KC by 1:30 for work.  My car will not make it to highway 36.  

5" in Kearney.

St. Joe wins again!!! just shy of 1 inch in SE Lee's Summit

i said 3" in lees summit and I was wrong.I can admit my  wrong prediction.Gary, I feel your pain. I must give my title as the most accurate.Self proclaimed title : )

Dryslot, never give anything away. The Dragon still respects you.  ;-)

Just wanted to let you know that I had 4.5 inches at my house in KCK near 123rd & Hollingsworth.

dragon your the man.. errrr  your the mythical creature!!

Good Morning again weather team!!!

I hope you have a good day!!!

Snow winding down here in SW Lawrence-sun trying to peak out but it is blowing pretty good here. I will get another measurement as a final final but guestimate right now is 5 1/2 inches based on the new snow in the drive way. Here in SW Lawrence we caught lightening in a bottle again and got lucky-the LRC is just Tight!!! Will enjoy it because I have a feeling next year the lightening will shatter the bottle LOL!!!

Getting ready to head out and get in it-the decision has been made to build an igloo-you should send a crew to tape this upcomming fiasco-it should be quite the show LOL!! Hopefully will be able to send some pics but my usb ports are having some issues so not sure if my camera will connect to the computer.

Have a great day and as always thanks for all the updates and analysis-all of you put so much time and effort into your forecasts and it always shows!!!!

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

Thanks!  I am sure I will have to deal with some negative fan email today.  We will make it.  The storm hit, and you got it again.  Amazing.  It is difficult to explain how the forecast was still accurate, but not perfect.

Gary

1" in Leawood at 133rd and Roe.  Growing up in Iowa, still trying to figure out why there is no school on these small snow totals?

Gary and team I think everyones frustration is two fold.  One is everyone gets excited for the potential of a big snow event.  but the second is more like a sports event.  People back you like their favorite team and want you to be more accurate then all the others.

Disappointed, but know you guys do your best.  Again, the LRC and trends that you and your team point out are excellent and generally are a day or two ahead of everyone else in pointing them out.

Hyway 169 North & 108th St

Snow finally stopped.

The sun is peeking out a little. Guess it's time to get the blower out.

See you next time.
Drew