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Jeremy:

Just me again-ok, I'm hooked again-I just love watching strong cold fronts!!! What an exciting winter!!!!

Man, Jamestown North Dakota: temperature of minus 2 with NW winds at 30 gusting to 45 MPH and blowing snow!! Wow-very strong front to be sure!!!! This is going to be a fun one to follow through out the day!! Like I've said, I'm easily amused!!! LOL

15 degrees in the Pan Handle of Nebraska-unleash the hounds!!!!!

Bill easily amused in Lawrence

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Bill,

I had a high school friend that went to college in Jamestown, ND.  Winters were beyond brutal there!

Jeremy

So do you think that st. joe will see an icestorm again from this system?  Lost power for over 4 days-not fun at all!

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St. Joe will be colder than KC on Monday.  The 12Z NAM still has precip. here.  I'll post more thoughts this afternoon on Monday.

Jeremy

What will the weather bring for may 31st with the "LRC?"

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Gary will give an updated 45 day forecast maybe next week.  Check back then...he may give some hints at May too.

Jeremy

"I will put 20 dollars on this line if Andrew or anyone else wants to make a bet."

might have to take you up on that bet chfs327.....now that I have some money to throw around...lol

you're crazy....lol

Brent

theres talk of an ice storm......

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I don't know about ice storm...but there is a chance of a mix or light freezing precip. on Monday.  Since this is a situation where 1-2 degrees will make a huge difference I'll discuss what I think will happen later today.  Enjoy your Saturday!

Jeremy

Jeremy, whats the precip expected monday through tuesday?

you say "light"

how much is that?

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Should be <.25" where you live.  Early estimate.

Jeremy

Right now clear skies with a white ground still here in St. Joe, did loose some snow depth yesterday, but it is still pretty thick, it will be interesting to see how much more we lose today before that front arrives.  The visible shows the snow pack really well and the low clouds racing south along that arctic boundary moving south... the ride continues;) ************** The arctic front is racing south. Should reach you this afternoon. Keep us updated! Jeremy

chfs327, what exactly is the weather going to do in the KC metro area on Monday?  And what exactly for Thursday?

      Hello Jeremy,  How long do you think the precip will last Monday, thur Tues, or till Monday night, just wondering thanks ************** At the moment into Monday evening/night. Jeremy

Nick you are right it is 34 already at 1030 hrs  we will lose more snow but not all of it.  Waiting to see what occurs Monday.  Going to go to the store tonite just to be on the safe side.   The wind does not appear to be but around 10 mph now.  I m going to wait until the afternoon data comes out before I get any expecations for Monday.

Big issue is snow piles clogging sewers.  last nite some streets were iced because of that.<<<<40.8 inches and holding>>>>> *********** Thanks for the report! Monday looks interesting with a warm to our south again. Might be another day with thunderstorms within or close to the area producing a little bit of everything! I don't think you'll lose all your snow today. Still a pile here and there in KC. Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,
Most of the snow is gone here....  There are just little piles left.

I can't wait for more 70s!

Kristi ********** Try to wait a little bit more...no 70s in the short term:) Jeremy

Happy Saturday Jeremy,
So nice to see the sun shining, and have it be above freezing!   I'm with you Kristi, I can't wait for a decent warmup.  All these little snow events we've had are getting old.   A couple inches, enough to make life a real pain, but not enough to shut things down.  
I am wondering something.  We've had so many small events this year, and each time the city dumps tons and tons of salt on the roads.  I have to wonder at what point all that salt starts effecting the water quality and ground (and plants & trees) surrounding the roads.  Any thoughts anyone?  

this might be a good time to bring back my long un- answered question of,

why heavy snow bands set up from northeast to southwest instead of vertically.

Which therefore makes the differentiating factor of how much snow will fall, be in long narrow bands that extend west to east. meaning in a matter of 50 miles north or south, you may get nothing or a foot.

whereas if the bands of snow went from north to south, you would see something like, olathe getting 1 inch and warrensburg getting 6 inches...and most likely st joseph, kansas city, and Harrisonville would all get the same amount. *************** Brent, I'll answer your question this afternoon when I have more time at work. Just stopping in for a second. Look for the answer between 4-5pm. Good question. Jeremy

wild wnter indeed! i'm hoping for no ice! my wife works in the building underneath the landmark transmission tower on 31st street. not pretty when it rains six-foot long chunks of ice. they left work one evening wearing mail tubs on their heads just in case!

Jeremy:

Just a quick check in: winds has shifted to the NW here in Lawrence-you can feel it!!! Here we go!!

Bill in Lawrence *************** Bill, With the winds turning to the NW the highs will likely stay in the 40s on the north side of KC, maybe some 50s over the south side. The arctic front is still to the north though. It is located where dew points drop off by 10 degrees within about 50 miles of each other on the obs. Just a little trough out ahead of the main front turning winds to the NW right now. Jeremy

I hope we get freezing rain then snow then some freezing rain again for Marceline soo i can get out of school early and miss school Tuesday...lol ************* Just hope for snow, we can do without the frz. rain. Jeremy

We don't want freezing rain that stuff is nasty I had property damage from the ice storm in december please no freezing rain we want snow or rain please!!!!!! *************** Hopefully 850 temps stay cold, because surface temps should be below freezing. That would keep the frz. rain away. Jeremy

"lezakEF5 said:
I hope we get freezing rain then snow then some freezing rain again for Marceline soo i can get out of school early and miss school Tuesday...lol"

lol theres more people on here that like freezing rain than I first thought...although I like it for different reasons.

I think I've officially caught spring fever today. The sun and "warm" temperatures have made me start longing for spring and summer, and tank tops and shorts instead of sweaters and coats. ************** Hard to believe that 40s and sun fee 'warm':) I'd rather have sun and 60s. Now that would feel warm. Jeremy

Hello guys!

I needed to know an "accurate" or reliable snow total for the last snow in Saint Joseph, MO. The CF6 product from NWS showed only 7.1 inches which CANNOT be correct... any ideas or sources??? Thanks!!

Jay *************** Jay, stjoelawyer or other bloggers from St. Joe can help you out. But I think totals were 7-10". Jeremy

Thanks Jeremy,
 
  We plow snow up here and I'd swear there was at least 10 inches on almost every account we do. So I was looking for a better source of some sort for record.

Jay

Major Ice Storm ahead. Like I said yesterday.

1/2 inch to .75 inch of Ice will fall.

Ok Questions that I didnt answer in other blog.

How Many games will the royals win this season

Approximentaly 84 wins.

I told MCI that it would be in the 70s Feb.24th.

I told Gary I liked his tie even though I didnt watch him yesterday.

Our official observatons at the airport are just way off with the automated weather station.  Nick Rau, TeacherinStJoe and I have been providing our snowfall and sleet accum numbers to the team all winter.  I have mine written down in a notebook.  7.1 might have been what fell Wed after midnite, with 4 inches from 7 o'clock to midnite not in the count.  The number is jusy flat wrong and has been off for years.  I REALLY THINK IT IS A GUESS.   I live 4 miles east of the recording station some deviation, yes, but not  a 4 inch deviation.  The Dec 22 storm went down as 6 it was 9.  I can compare each snow event.

"chfs327 said:
Major Ice Storm ahead. Like I said yesterday.

1/2 inch to .75 inch of Ice will fall."

what about the betting?...rofl

Snowman Asked the Following
Chfs327, what exactly is the weather going to do in the KC metro area on Monday?  And what exactly for Thursday?

Snowman Glad you ask. Monday at around noon time it will begin as sleet till bout 5 then change over to FRZ rain till about 3AM then change to a Light snow.

In the Ice storm we get bout 1/2 inch to .75 inch of FRZ rain/ ice on the powerlines

Thursday it will be alot like last tuesdays storm. The Advancing coldfront combined with a Low coming in from the four corners will track above us. Here in KC will only get around 4-6 inches but in St.joe will get around 8-10 inches again.

With that storm there is a possibility of a Blowing snow advisory as winds will pick up from the northwest from 25-35 MPH with Gusts up to around 50 MPH

Brent. I will bet you

Jeremy:

Thanks so much!!! I've got it now!! Should have paid closer attention before I posted eh!!!! Concordia, Kansas is at 44 at 18Z so we have a while to go-looks like the front is getting close to Lincoln, Nebraska-I think???

Speaking of Nebraska: you can really see how this colder air is heading in a more east trajectory than banking up against the Rockies-Ogolla, Nebraksa is at 50 while North Platte is at 33-both are about the same in Latitude but North Platte is about 50 miles East-pretty wild!!! Another is that Imperial, Nebraska is at 50 and Thedford is at 23-Thedford is about 100-150 miles North East of Imperial-just wild!!!!

Awesome to follow this front as there is it for sure has a kick-Iowa is really going into the deep freeze!!! Oh, we're currently at 42 and still slowly climbing-snow is trying to hang on in the areas with out sun, but the old Iglo which is on the south side of the house in full sun is taking it on the chin today LOL!!!

Have a great afternoon

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

I'll pass along your message, got the email.

Thanks for the report!

Jeremy

Jay if you want want something goverment or official Missouri Conservation Dept at MWSU has rainfall records, they might have snow as well.  Also, check with City yards they might have records 271-4848 during the week.  Publicwork's snowplow drivers said 10+ higher accums were north of 36 highway by an inch or two vs south side.  

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Thanks for passing the info along.

Jeremy

I like your weekend morning newscast. While the weather is great, the best part is your news co-anchor Amy Hawley. Oh My!

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I'll pass that along to Amy:)  Thanks for watching!

Jeremy

Brent said:
what about the betting?...rofl

Yes I am still taking bets on this storm. If you want to bet on this storm becoming a major icestorm we will.

Snow OK,, Freezing rain Not OK..   Places to much burdon of local firefighters and EMS for all the accidents that occur.   People forget sometimes that four-wheel drive means nothing on ice, well except for four-wheel slide.

41 days to go before my trip to Southern California....

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Any room in your luggage for a 6'4 Meteorologist?

Jeremy

Major Ice storm ahead

chjs327 "I bet you a coin flip heads I win tails you lose.

How about it?

I BET IT GETS DOWN TO 30 UP HERE BEFORE INDEPENDENCE DROPS TO 40 AND I'll lay odds at 4 to 1

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Shouldn't that be like 100 to 1 or higher odds:)

Jeremy

#1. Stjoe. Thats the Most dummest thing you could do. No way would I do it because you would win both times.

#2. Im looking for serious Bets.

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I know you guys are joking...I think.  But no betting on the blog and if you want to discuss stuff like that just send each other a PM.

Jeremy

Wat are the chances of having a major ice storm??....Or is there even a chance of having one??...I like ice storms because i like watching the ice accumulate and it is really cool and school gets canceled...I understand about people having property damage and driving gets extremly dangerous, but to me watcing the ice accumulate and branches fall is really cool...I also love scetching like the tree damage and stuff like that.

chfs327, as David Letterman would say, "This blog is for entertainment purposes only.  Wagering is not allowed."  I've noticed that not only do you say random things, but you capitalize random words in your posts.  You are one wild and random guy!  It's all good.  And thanks for the forecast.

sure I shall bet.

what shall we say?

oh, chfs327, Jeremy says we should discuss it in pm, or you can email me....just send me a pm...or I'll send you one with my email address.

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Hopefully you understand...

I'm going to get to your question after 4pm remember...

Jeremy

Brent. If you could PM ur phone nuber to me we will set up a bet.

Snowman ur welcome for the forecast

LezakEF5. The probabily chance of a major icestore is around 70% right now

you have a pm

ok
I sent you an email

thank you.

your welcome

Jeremy, about what time do you expect the front to move in?

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Maybe 5-8pm.  Front is now thru Lincoln, NE.

Jeremy

enough small talk...lol

you have emails.

I just read on another blogs entry, that they are concerned for an ice storm for monday into monday night.

I won't say who, or what they said.

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I guess that is why I was talking about it this morning already(and Gary last night) and that something with freezing rain/mix may occur.  Maybe whoever it was watched our morning show today:)

Jeremy

Actually I was talking about another meteorologist in the area..

do you have any concerns at all for ice?

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Yeah...like I just said we have talked about this possibility for somewhere in the viewing area for days.  The temp forecast has changed, but we've always mentioned that a front would be close and that the precip. type was a big concern.  Last night Gary was forecasting the coldest temps for Monday of anyone in KC.  That was and still is the case as I type.  I'm making some graphics right now to show in regards to the freezing rain threat for Monday.  It certainly does exist.  I'll update the blog later today with more info.

Also, this is either storm #5 or 6 of the 4-7 that Gary was forecasting.  I think Monday lines up with December 22 if I remember correctly.  The LRC continues to work. 

Jeremy

Again I say Major Icestorm and Brent check ur emal Box.

1/2 inch to .75 inch of Ice

Jeremy, I love the weekend Morning Show but not nearly as much as my sister and her husband.  They are both developmentally disabled, Down Syndrome, and watch you faithfully.  My sister calls you her "Action News Favorite Weather Guy" and what you say...goes!  There is no saying maybe it will be cold tomorrow, if you said it, than it shall be so!! =)  They both plan their days by your words, how to dress for work and what to pack for lunch.  You're the cream of the crop in their eyes.  Have a good day/weekend/evening, I'm going out to enjoy the sun and warmth some more.....oh and by the way..thanks for the nice weather ;).

--deb

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Deb,

Enjoy the 'warm' weather today...it will be gone in a few hours!  Thanks for watching the weekend morning show and say hi to my only fan club:)

Jeremy

I still callin a Major Ice storm

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We'll see what happens...I hope you aren't correct.

Jeremy

Jeremy, I like you guy's graphics and all....but I have noticed that the nickel channel has awesome graphics..lol not always an awesome forecast...but every single night they have a cool graphic that shows the warm air...and the arctic front coming south...and everything is moving and changing, they also frequently have cool graphics showing precip types throughout the day, and it progresses and changes also......I think that its really cool....and I know its the forecast that matters not the cool graphics...but man if you guys could get some cool stuff like that I would enjoy watching you guys a lot more...plus I think other people like it too....just a suggestion

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OK...thanks for the feedback.  I'm guessing that other place doesn't allow you to discuss the weather with them though:) 

Jeremy

Wow, Jeremy:
"I guess that is why I was talking about it this morning already(and Gary last night) and that something with freezing rain/mix may occur.  Maybe whoever it was watched our morning show today:)"

Maybe it was forecast by "others" this week also...in fact, what do you know? It was ! And even this morning (before 8 a.m.)
Not trying to knock KSHB team, but felt as though you were doing some of your own knocking there.
Please can we keep the little inuendos about "others" out of here? It's not becoming of you or anyone else on here who does it.
Again, as I pointed out in the past...
The wxteam is good, everyone knows it.
Let your record speak for itself, please.

he thinks Major as half an inch Jeremy,.... now, while that may cause a lot of havoc on the roads (only if it was below 30)....half an inch did not do a lot of damage to our trees and powerlines last time.

"They both plan their days by your words, how to dress for work and what to pack for lunch.  You're the cream of the crop in their eyes."

ROFL, thats funny!

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Brent...there's 2 in the fan club...want to join?  j/k

Time for a blog break...

Jeremy

"OK...thanks for the feedback.  I'm guessing that other place doesn't allow you to discuss the weather with them though:)  

Jeremy"

hmm? oh...yeah I think I get what you mean....but I am on another local weather blog....(not nearly as great, informative, or helpful as this one)....but I hear about things and concerns earlier there sometimes...not always...but yeah...

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Let's just focus on the weather...not other blogs, etc.   Lots of fun stuff ahead.

Jeremy

Ice Storm eh? Hmm, Models keep most of the precip to the east towards me in Columbia. : )

I think theres more than 2!! lol....thanks but I am firmly standing in Gary's fan group he is about the only one that loves weather as much as I do...(and snowstorms!!)...lol

by the was....what did you mean by "allow me to discuss weather with them" ?....just wondering..

Ok. So im back

wats new

Finally...check your email...lol

Nothing new...except no one is chanting that there will be a Major ice storm all the time...lol

just kidding...

Brent

Okay, here's a question I've wondered for a few years....

I've always heard that 32 is the freezing mark and always believed that once the temp gets below 32 it will snow instead of rain, but in past years I've realized this is NOT the case.  Why is that?  What is the "freezing" mark, if it doesn't turn the rain into snow?  I guess that just means it will turn it into freezing rain/ice?

Also...what is the difference in freezing rain and just rain?  Just...really cold rain?

And why do you have Monday's high at 26, but rain instead of snow all day?

I'm very interested in this and have been curious about it for a long time...  I feel very stupid but I need to find the answers somehow! :\

Rock. Tempatures might be 26 at ground level but since the warm area at about 5000 ft it warmer than 32 F it melts the snow and refreezes after it makes contact with the ground

Oh wow....60% of rain....26 degrees...thats a setup for an ice storm....

Brent. Now do u see of my ways. alot of rain. Freezing rain. Icestorm. I have called this since Last night.

Major Ice storm ahead

Rock,
If it is snow...  There's a warm layer in the air between too cold air masses in the atmosphere.  There's just no chance for the droplet to melt.  I am not sure of what the temp in the atmosphere has to be for snow or sleet to occur.  I am sure someone could answer that.

Freezing rain occurs when there is a shallow layer of cold air near the surface with  warm air above it.  The rain freezes on contact.

Kristi

No one ever said a lot of rain...they said less than .25

Rock,
No question is dumb...  Just shows that you want to learn more. :)

It would be nice to have a FAQ with some of these explanations.  I am sure the bloggers could help put it together. :)

Kristi

Yea with #1 law. Listen to an 15 year old about random rantings

They accualy come true

"chfs327 said:
Yea with #1 law. Listen to an 15 year old about random rantings

They accualy come true"


I have reason to fear that statement...

RockportHarbor you said:
"I've always heard that 32 is the freezing mark and always believed that once the temp gets below 32 it will snow instead of rain, but in past years I've realized this is NOT the case.  Why is that?  What is the "freezing" mark, if it doesn't turn the rain into snow?  I guess that just means it will turn it into freezing rain/ice?"

If the air is 32 degrees or below from the clouds all the way to the ground precipitation will snow...It depends on where the cold air is...Freezing rain develops when falling snow encounters a layer of warm air and melts then it encounters a layer of cold air at the surface, but does not have time to refreeze and and freezes when it comes in contact with an object that has temps below freezing...It sleets when the cold air is a little thicker and the rain has time to refreeze into ice pellets....When the warm air is from the clouds to the ground, it falls as plain rain.

You also said: Also...what is the difference in freezing rain and just rain?  Just...really cold rain?

I told yo what frz rain was above and what rain was...a cold rain is just plain rain that is cold or falls when it is cooler outside.

they have the past two times.

Remember 5-8 man that great. both times where pick by the NWS after days of my rainting and they almost came true. The spilt finger fastball blew both those away from South KC.

Now im saying .5 to .75 for the Ice storm. Untill I see conclusive evidence of this storm not gving it to us ill continue to rant and rave about us having a major ice storm

RockportHarbor,

He is a good link: http://www.weatherquestions.com/What_causes_freezing_rain.htm

scroll down to F, and click on what causes freezing rain....good descriptions and diagrams. Hope this helps

The 7 day is looking really good...i hope the temps keep dropping. :)

Major Icestorm Ahead

Yeah this has been one of the best winters in years. We may actually hit 20 inches of snow at KCI this winter. Been a while.

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I would say we are a shoe-in for at least 20".

Jeremy

This looks like a winter wx or freezing rain advisory type not major ice storm.

Hi,

I just wanted to say that about 1 1/2 miles south of St. Joseph and about 3.5 miles south of 36 Hwy both my Dad and my Sister measured 10 to 10.25 inches at different places after the Tuesday into Wednesday Storm.  That was on top of about 1.5 inches of frozen slush from early Tuesday morning.

Also back on Dec. 22nd we had 8.5 inches of snow.  I am not sure the disparity in snowfall reports, but places south of 36 highway had 10 inches form the last storm.

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Feb. 14-15 could be interesting...about 54 days after Dec. 22!

Jeremy

im saying Major Icestorm. You guys can say no but in my mind I say yes

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Okay...I think everyone knows you called for a major ice storm.  Let's see what happens.  This evening I'll write a blog discussing Monday.

Look what's on the horizon for Valentine's Day...a Valentine from Mother Nature...another storm!

Jeremy

umm chfs327 I think we get the point. haha

We'll see how it looks tomorrow.

I agree chfs327, ice storm is coming

chfs327,

Do you think there is going to be a Major Icestorm coming up?

You're being very vague about your feelings....

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chfs327 got the message.  How about a late week storm!

Jeremy

lol. Its because Ive been right with guessing so far. 5-8 has worked for me last two times. Now lets try major ice sotrm

Pats can agree with me because hes a pats fan. Even though i rooted for giants.

Overall major Ice storm. Send out a New blog because im tired of using this one

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One step ahead of you:)

wow, then dont use it. We got ur message, major ice storm ok. Unless you wanna state something else, then why write anything?