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Cold Stays Put, Monday Setup, & Advisory Map!...Updated

Watch NBC Action News at 10pm and again from 5-7am for the latest weather information and advisories for Monday!

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The latest info is in and it continues to look like the bulk of the precipitation will stay south/southeast of the area.  The focus will be near the I-44 corridor.  The precipitation totals that I just showed on the news were as follows.  Around KC...0.00-0.02"   Warrensburg area...0.02-0.05"   Clinton and other areas in the far southeast part of the viewing area.  0.05-0.10".  For KC light snow/flurries/frz. drizzle could occur.  Morning commute looks good for basically all locations.  The storm heading thru the northern Plains may actually bring some snow to parts of the area during the evening hours as it dives southeast.  Basically much of the area is in 'no man's land on Monday'...meaning we are sandwiched between two systems.  Here is the latest accumulated precipitation map from the 00Z GFS.  Have a great night and you can see my thoughts from earlier which haven't changed too much below the update.

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After tracking an arctic front all day Saturday the cold air surged into the region overnight and put temperatures into the deep freeze today.  Highs across the region were in the teens and lows 20s.  It could have been worse though...Fargo, ND had a high of -12 degrees on Sunday!  With clear skies this evening and arctic high pressure nearby temperatures will quickly drop down into the single digits.  Areas to the northeast of Kansas City that still have a decent snow pack will likely hang on either side of 0 tonight! 

By morning clouds thicken and our next distrubance will bring us a chance of freezing drizzle/sleet/snow.  In anticipation of the little storm the NWS has issued the following advisories for the are effective on Monday.

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As I stressed last night the total liquid output for this storm looks to be light for most of the area.  I think Kansas City will fall in the trace to 0.05" category and then totals will slowly increase the farther to the southeast of the metro you travel.  That light liquid total could still produce some light snow totals in the metro since temps will be very cold.  Around Clinton, MO totals may be between 0.10-0.20".  The precipitation type from Kansas City and points north will likely be some freezing drizzle or snow.  A little sleet may mix in, but I think better chances for sleet will occur to the southeast of the city.  Areas around Sedalia, Marshall, Clinton, Warrensburg, and Appleton City can expect anything from freezing drizzle to sleet to snow.  Accumulations of sleet/snow may be in the neighborhood of 0.5-1.5".  And any ice accumulation should stay under 0.10".  Since this is an overrunning situation with a warm front to the south,  the amount and location of the precipitation could shift.  Overrunning situations can be very tricky!  We will have to watch this closely, but right now the above precip. totals look good.

Even with the light precipitation in the forecast the surface temperatures will be very cold.  Highs will likely remain in the 20s on Monday.  Certainly cold enough to produce snow, but the layers above the surface will be the determining factor as we discussed yesterday as to how much freezing drizzle or sleet mixes in or is produced.  Regardless, I think some slippery roads will be possible across the region, with likely some of the trickiest stretches over the southeast tier of counties in the viewing area.  As I continue to mention, back in December we had a trace of freezing rain/drizzle and it caused numerous accidents.  So just a little freezing drizzle/sleet/snow with surface temperatures in the teens and low 20s will result in anything falling...sticking on contact.

Timing...it looks like the precipitation will begin during the mornings hours.  I'm crossing my fingers that it holds off until after 8am.  But that looks like the best chance from KC and points north.  I think the precip. begins south of the city first and then gradually spreads north and will be off and on in areas from the morning into the afternoon and maybe early evening.

Below is the setup for this disturbance on Monday.  The front over the southern Plains is creating a huge temperatures spread already on Sunday afternoon.  At 4pm it was 19 degrees in Downtown Kansas City and 75 in Dallas, TX!  

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The precipitation identifiers over MO & eastern KS that look like infinity signs(somewhat) represent the mix that may occur.  Otherwise the 'R' is thunderstorms...there's one over Texas & Oklahoma.  And the upside down triangle with a star/asterisk above it represents snow.  So this is a good map if you are a beginner trying to learn how to read a surface map.

Another thing to take note of is the low cruising in Nebraska.  This will bring accumulating snow to the upper Midwest and Plains.  The southern extent of that snow may bring around 1" of snow to areas like Trenton and Maryville.  This will really depend on how far south that low travels.

To recap...Winter Weather Advisory for Monday for central and southern areas.  Greateast precipitation totals should be over the far southern and southeastern tier of counties in the viewing area.  Freezing drizzle, sleet, and snow look to be the main precipitation types.  Icy spots may/will develop on some roads as temps will be in the teens and 20s.  A secondary low could bring some snow to areas near the MO/IA border.  Precipitation begins in areas during the morning and ends with in the afternoon or evening.

I hope this helps you to plan your Monday!  Make sure to tune in to NBC Action News for the latest on this developing weather.

Jeremy
 

Published Sunday, February 10, 2008 4:19 PM by Jeremy WxPlus

Comments

 

Brent said:

that was a great blog Jeremy.

for once Harrisonville gets the action first, and hardest...although....its not snow......

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Brent,

I mentioned snow possible to the south...I think you could see some minor accumulation.  Not a huge storm...but tricky and could produce some headaches on the roads.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 5:09 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

  Hello Jeremy, So here in downtown maybe end afternoon/early evening, How many hours do you see this event last, just wondering thanks

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Overrunning situations can be long lasting since the front provides the lift and it will stay to the south.  The precip. may not be continuous, but could be a window of 6-10+ hours of possible precip. in spots.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 5:09 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

nice blog. Im hoping the precipitation does NOT shift north because I dont want ice here up north. Darn, Thursday-Fridays storm doesnt look impressive at all...
February 10, 2008 5:13 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Thanks for the update Jeremy..Do you think Marceline Missouri will have freezing drizzle tomorrow or snow, or both...if so around what time do you think the freezing drizzle will start and possibly end??

I hope it will be enough so school gets out early tomorrow lke it did last when we got a good glazing of ice on everything and you couldnt even walk on and srteet without nearly falling down...lol
February 10, 2008 5:15 PM
 

adogg said:

Jeremy, does it look bad enough for classes to get cancelled at jccc? Im afraid I wont be able to make it there anyways since i
live farther south
February 10, 2008 5:17 PM
 

Brent said:

oh so now its snow south?....hmmmm cool..

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It might be a little of everything:)

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 5:17 PM
 

chfs327 said:

I want some football
February 10, 2008 5:20 PM
 

adogg said:

brent, i dont think its gonna be anything to talk about, even for us southerners.

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Hopefully that's the case, but the surface temps will support anything sticking on contact.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 5:21 PM
 

wthrwatcher87 said:

I know you have a lot questions right now but I was just wondering if anyone thinks that this will be a problem on Tuesday morning. I have to drive from Carrollton to Sedalia and I am worried about running into problems.

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If there are issues on the roads, the crews should be able to treat the roads by early Tuesday.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 5:21 PM
 

Brent said:

I just watched you Jeremy....

I liked the precip map....

I hope chfs327 was watching..  <_<
February 10, 2008 5:22 PM
 

Daniel from Appleton City said:

omg appleton city mentioned in the blog i feel special lol

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You're in an area that may see a little more precip. on Monday.  Glad you enjoyed the shout-out!

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 5:23 PM
 

CentralOP2 said:

"I think we are about 7-10 days or so away from exiting the active part of the cycle.  For me...I hope some milder weather returns which I expect should happen."

Well hopefully those highs will be in the 40s and 50s and not too much warmer. Last March we had a lot of days of 60F+ temps and that got Spring started too early.
Did you see those low temps and strong winds in the Midwest this morning?
KC was quite mild in comparison.
I know you like those warmer temps Jeremy :) However, I will take 20F for a high over 90F+ temps with high humidity anyday of the week ;)
February 10, 2008 5:25 PM
 

Brent said:

if ice does fall......it will stick to the roads...and create a lot of problems...I believe schools will cancel...

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I'm sure that is what some are hoping:)

February 10, 2008 5:25 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Brent I am watching.
February 10, 2008 5:26 PM
 

adogg said:

Yeah, im thinking that i wont make it to jccc tommorow, roads and highways are well maintained down here during winter storms
February 10, 2008 5:28 PM
 

adogg said:

oops i meant arent well maintained
February 10, 2008 5:29 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Brent where do u live at
February 10, 2008 5:36 PM
 

Brent said:

"I'm sure that is what some are hoping:)"

Not I.....but then again...I don't go to school.....
February 10, 2008 5:38 PM
 

Brent said:

chfs, The correct term is: "where do you live?"

second, I just sent you my address. so you can send me something

third, I live in Harrisonville.

Where you do live?....oh yeah olathe...never mind.
February 10, 2008 5:39 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Breat where u live
February 10, 2008 5:39 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Lol
Ok
February 10, 2008 5:43 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Is there a cance of getting a good glazing of ice tomorrow in Linn county missouri...I am just hoping to be able to get out of school early...One more question...How is Thursday's storm looking???
February 10, 2008 5:51 PM
 

sertorius said:

Jeremy:

Good early evening to you-hope your night is going well!!!! I topped out at 20 degrees today with full sunshine-that is almost 25 degrees below average-pretty impressive!!!!

Awesome blog entry!!! Great explanations and analysis!!! Thanks so much for putting it all together and placing it on the blog!!! You have been screaming at the top of your voice for 36 hours that this will not be a big precipitation maker LOL
Being the glutton for punishment that I am, I will still follow the front and the radar trends-I have some issues LOL

Have a gret night and thanks again for all the blog updates this weekend and all the responses-this has been great fishing even if the fish aren't really biting LOL

Bill in Lawrence
February 10, 2008 5:55 PM
 

radman22 said:

Snow to the north of me, Ice to the south, here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
February 10, 2008 5:57 PM
 

Brent said:

theres a small chance of you getting out of school tomorrow if you are south of I-70....otherwise I would not count on  it

thursdays storm looks weak.
February 10, 2008 5:57 PM
 

sertorius said:

radman22:

That is hilarious!!!! Resivoir Dogs anyone???

Bill in Lawrence
February 10, 2008 6:07 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

I dont want ice. You all can have it down to the south. Jeremy, does the storm on Thursday-Friday look good for Snow? *********** The storm Thurs/Fri is still south of the area. I think by Tuesday we should have a good idea. I still think the GFS is too far south. Jeremy
February 10, 2008 6:09 PM
 

sertorius said:

I meant Reservoir Dogs-you would think a history teacher could spell huh!!!! LOL

Bill in Lawrence
February 10, 2008 6:11 PM
 

adogg said:

Reservoir Dogs, I was thinkin thats what it was!
February 10, 2008 6:17 PM
 

adogg said:

dont worry my old history couldnt spell either;)
February 10, 2008 6:18 PM
 

science coach said:

If the precip starts in the pre-dawn hours, it would seem like treating the roads with salt may not work due to the low temps.  I have a bad feeling about even a little freezing drizzle on those of us who drive in the 0500-0600 hr time frame. *************** Can't be ruled out...but I'm hoping it holds off until after 8am. I think if it did start that early it would be snow. Jeremy
February 10, 2008 6:19 PM
 

adogg said:

oops, forgot the word teacher!
February 10, 2008 6:19 PM
 

heavysnow said:

Any chance that their is more precip than that?
February 10, 2008 6:28 PM
 

f00dl3 said:

There may be a wee bit of glaze on the road in the morning Monday.


Thursday's storm looks to take a near identical track to tomorrow's disturbance, so don't expect more than a light dusting in Kansas City (if it's snow). *********** I'm glad it is you forecasting snow amounts that far out and not me:) Jeremy
February 10, 2008 6:33 PM
 

marlina10 said:

Yikes, Monday morning rush hour is bad enough without throwing ice into the mix! ************* Glad I have the day off tomorrow:) Jeremy
February 10, 2008 6:46 PM
 

LRCfan said:

we still need to pay attention to tomorrow just a smidge of freezing drizzle will cause problems as Jeremy explained about in his blog. Also the storm for later in the week doesn't look impressive for kc but this is a few days out this storm could go further north it might look more impressive in later model runs. ************** Just a few model runs ago the Thursday storm looked different. So don't count it out yet! Good call. Jeremy
February 10, 2008 6:47 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

Jeremy>>>>  Good job on the blog. I hope it is sleet or snow we don't need the ice on a Monday morning when people are still waking up after a weekend. The new news cast in the mornings on the weekend are nice. I know it is more work for you but we enjoy it keep up the good work!!!! ************* Thanks for the comments. The weekend morning show is a good time. Mike and Amy are great to work with! Thanks for watching! Jeremy
February 10, 2008 6:58 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

I want some more snow...
February 10, 2008 7:01 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

I for one hope that if we have a storm on Thursday that it moves out quick. We will be able to see the space schuttle docked to the International space station over our skys Thursday and Friday evenings. I want the snow just a clear sky either Thursday of Friday Night.
February 10, 2008 7:07 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

I for one hope that if we have a storm on Thursday that it moves out quick. We will be able to see the space schuttle docked to the International space station over our skys Thursday and Friday evenings. I want the snow just a clear sky either Thursday of Friday Night. ************** I've seen the shuttle and ISS in the night sky before. Back in 2002 I believe. A pretty cool sight, but don't blink. The window of viewing is usually like 1-2 minutes. Jeremy
February 10, 2008 7:07 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

JEREMY>>>>>>>> That's what is good about Thursday and Friday we will be able to see it for 4 minutes here in K.C.. Going 17,500 miles an hour is fast or 5 miles per heart beat. http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html This site tells you the times and where to look in the sky.
February 10, 2008 7:16 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

chfs327,
What happened to your "Major Ice Storm"
February 10, 2008 7:17 PM
 

Brent said:

I had the same question
February 10, 2008 7:19 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Its Still here. The Models that will come out later tonight will prove something.

I still think Major Ice Storm
February 10, 2008 7:24 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

chfs327>>>>>> You are the only one that is saying major ice storm. If you turn out to be correct then we will kneel and bow when you enter the blog......LOL
February 10, 2008 7:27 PM
 

Matt P said:

chfs327 didn't say what state, did he? LOL!
February 10, 2008 7:32 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

lol....Im just messin with you, but im not thinking anyone in the viewing area will have a major ice storm, but we will just have to see how the weather plays out tomorrow....I guess it is possible if someone gets caught under a thunderstorm if thunderstorms are possible someone could recieve significant ice accumulatons.
February 10, 2008 7:36 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

dude chfs327, its not going to be a major icestorm.
February 10, 2008 7:38 PM
 

Brent said:

"I still think Major Ice Storm"

you're just not screaming it at us anymore correct?
February 10, 2008 7:40 PM
 

lvsnow said:

Whats in store for Leavenworth tomorrow?
February 10, 2008 7:42 PM
 

KCGolfer said:

"The Models that will come out later tonight will prove something. "

Yes, they will prove we won't have a major ice storm....
February 10, 2008 7:44 PM
 

chfs327 said:

im not gnna be a pain in the side for any 1 in this blog. I still think theres gonna be a major icestorm 2morrow
February 10, 2008 7:45 PM
 

PatsSoxCelts said:

ill tell ya what chfs327, if there is a major ice storm then I will go in to school naked.
February 10, 2008 7:52 PM
 

reafamily said:

OK I want snow instead of ice, but if we are going to get ice, I really hope it starts earlier. I live outside of Adrian and drive 20 miles to school over bad roads. If the ice starts soon enough, maybe school will cancel early enough that we won't get there and then turn around and come back home.
February 10, 2008 7:55 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

chfs377,
Hey im not trying to dis you or anything...Im just messing with you...You are 15 arent you...Im 16...I didnt realize how many teenagers were on this blog...The only one I ever seemed to notice was Andrew Stafford...Mabey your "Major Ice Storm" will come true, and if it does I will be telling you to tell me I will win the lottery or something...lol
February 10, 2008 7:58 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Lezak. It will probabily happen
February 10, 2008 8:01 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

Good Evening Jeremy, Sorry I know you kind of are answer this, but what time late evening, would you expect the Precip here in the metro end?

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Not sure it will last into the evening...might end in the afternoon.  Keep in mind I'm only going 0.00" to 0.05" around KC.  Probably on the low end of this.  Doesn't look impressive at all.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 8:07 PM
 

StormWyndd said:

New NAM is rolling out, looks like most of the precip is pulling south and east away from us folks.
February 10, 2008 8:08 PM
 

nastyweather said:

Well it's good we're not having an ice storm, but I still contend it only takes a couple snow flakes to make driving an adventure.  It wouldn't be so bad, but when you have a few "Freakout Freds" and "Super Slow Sallies" on the highway at the first sign of winter weather it causes problems for us normal drivers.  Also, the morons that don't know how to turn on their headlights don't help the situation.  Anyway, it should a fun drive on Monday!
February 10, 2008 8:11 PM
 

Johnk24 said:

does it look like it might still move further north?

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The trend has been south, not north.  Looks colder and that would lead to more snow than any other precip. type. 

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 8:11 PM
 

David Sanders said:

i doubt it.
February 10, 2008 8:15 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

Storm Wydd , "Pulling  south and east away from us" the metro area?
February 10, 2008 8:15 PM
 

chfs327 said:

yea
February 10, 2008 8:15 PM
 

nastyweather said:

Yeah we may not even get anything tomorrow.  Granted the NAM isn't very accurate for winter weather, but I've never seen the model predit this far away from our area, but still hit us:

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Keep in mind the long links aren't friendly to the blog:)  It messes with the sizing.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 8:17 PM
 

CentralOP2 said:

Jeremy,
I will say that it is a touch cold with the wind blowing! I especially noticed in on top of a hill. I am glad the thickness values lend more support to snow/sleet tommorrow! That is better than freezing rain.

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The 00Z NAM continued to trend south...maybe we won't see anything!  The cold is pretty chilly with the wind chill factored in!

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 8:23 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

Is that the last NAM, what area you in nastyweather
February 10, 2008 8:24 PM
 

nastyweather said:

Sorry I forgot about the links screwing with the sizing.  Chiefsfan, I'm in very southern part of Lenexa, close to JCCC.
February 10, 2008 8:32 PM
 

ashleykc said:

I have a flight out of KCI that's supposed to leave a few minutes before noon. Do you think this storm is going to amount to enough to significantly impact flights in and out of KCI?

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I think your flight should be okay.  I'm not overly impressed...especially near or west of the state line by KC.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 8:52 PM
 

tirzah2 said:

Ok, just checking the national satelitte and lordy where is that storm at?   Me thinks it's going to be another fizzler and all we will get are clouds.  The northern jet is pushing everything down from Canada and maybe it will hit us here. But if it does get its act together, I think its going to be a cold drizzle tomorrow with a little snow.  Otherwise, I'll put  my money on nothing remarkable happening.

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If you saw the 5pm show I had some areas getting nothing!  So it would not surprise me.  We never said this would be much.  Only a chance...that's why our precip. chance has stayed at 60% the past 3 days.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 8:54 PM
 

bellgolf08 said:

i think the majority of the weather will be south of sedalia. we may get a some but i think it will be south. Weather Team-what about adding a resources page to the blog. one where beginners go to other sites to learn. you could provide links to the models and such.

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It an idea, but we don't want to drive people away from this site.  If bloggers have questions we always try to answer them.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 9:00 PM
 

nwmissourigal said:

The wind and cold today reminded me that it's still winter. The fireplace with insert got another work out. And yes Jeremey, I know you don't miss cutting wood...LOL..but I don't mind the work and there is nothing like wood heat. Bill from Lawrence..thanks for remembering the ice storm of 73. I have never seen anything like it since. I truly believe that is the worse ice storm I have ever went thru. That storm made for poor crops that year as we couldn't get to fields when we needed to and harvest went clear into December. That was a really bad year for the farmers. I must agree with most of the bloggers that any ice that forms on the road is dangerous and there are people out there in their vehicles that think they are above going off in the ditch. I love to see the guy that has passed me at a high rate of speed and then a mile of two down the road he has slid off into the ditch or median. Driving on ice is an art form of sorts and those of us that have done it for years know what to expect. If the ice comes during rush hour, just slow down, use your head and if you start sliding put the car up in neutral and gain control of the car. Braking just makes your sliding worse. Wow...maybe I should give driving lessons on the ice to people who don't have a clue about Missouri ice conditions...LOL...everyone have a great evening and have a safe run to work tomorrow. I work at a hospital and we always get really busy when there is ice...take care everyone...nwmissourigal

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I miss having a wood burning fire place.  The work is worth it a few times a year!

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 9:07 PM
 

KCHusker said:

There is a true chill in the air tonight. Let the dog out and it just bore into me.

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Some areas are already in the single digits.  Cuts thru you when the wind is blowing.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 9:30 PM
 

Bryan said:

Good Evening Jeremy-

Currently sitting at 13.8° with a dew point of -3° and a NE Wind at 9MPH giving me a current wind chill of 0°. According to my weather station looks like we reached a high of 21° here at 130th and State Avenue. According to the latest model predictions tonight looks like we will miss out on most of the winter precip tomorrow here in the greater Kansas City area. Maybe something more exciting on Thursday?

Bryan

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I sure hope Thursday is more exciting!  Monday may be uneventful...we'll see though.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 9:41 PM
 

LRCfan said:

latest models continue to indicate very minor event for kc tomorrow looks to stay south and east be careful for that patchy fr drizzle tomorrow.
February 10, 2008 9:55 PM
 

stjoelawyer said:

WITH THIS EVENT TRENDING SOUTH SEE THE CLIPPER IN ne  DOING THE SAME THING TOMARROW FOR US FOLS UP NORTH? ooops sorry for ther caps

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When I showed the precip. map earlier today I put 1" of snow in northern MO.  Got it covered I hope:)  We are kind of in 'no man's land' tomorrow.  Between two pretty good systems.

Jeremy

February 10, 2008 9:56 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Jeremy,
Is there going to be a new blog out tonight or tomorrow??

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Did you read the update?

February 10, 2008 10:06 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

Jeremy said he will post an update after the newscast
February 10, 2008 10:10 PM
 

Scott said:

Nice work on the blog, Jeremy...you are far better than when you started!

;-)

If you sneeze tomorrow, you might miss this storm.
February 10, 2008 10:13 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

srry...i saw the update right after i submited the post
February 10, 2008 10:17 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

        Whats the chance of downtown KC seening that evening snow that you mention and how much would you expect?
February 10, 2008 10:28 PM
 

LRCfan said:

the latest gfs continues to show thursday and fridays storm south I don't know why I keep on looking at that it's still a few days out it probably will be different tomorrow.
February 10, 2008 10:29 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

sorry
February 10, 2008 10:32 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

Well just watched your forecasts and looked at the NAM and GFS...
the NAM would give us a MAJOR CLOUD STORM, LOL with no precip., I still like the GFS better at least it still throws us a bone and shoves a few snow showers at us before it leaves, with the other storm, well it is still early but it too may end up being another cloud storm;), right now it is cold and the snow is still here but it is now more ice, as a matter of fact some of it is so solid it will support me without crunching down for a while, weird!!
February 10, 2008 11:02 PM
 

kellyann said:

chiefsfan, hmmmm, what about that major ice storm? what now?
February 10, 2008 11:03 PM
 

rodeomann65 said:

i think this storm is starting to track a little more north and we will get more and i wouldn't be sruprised that we will end up in a winter storm warning in the moring
February 10, 2008 11:30 PM
 

Ronnie said:

It sure seems like every storm this winter has taken a slight detour at the last minute.  
February 11, 2008 12:26 AM
 

radman22 said:

I agree Ronnie... I think we have set the record for close calls.  
February 11, 2008 1:50 AM
 

sertorius said:

Gary:

Good cold February morning to you sir!! Currently sitting at 15 degrees under thin cloudy skies with a fairly stiff East wind-it will get your attention outside this morning!!!

A few general musings this morning-oh boy I hear everyone-here we go again!!!

1. The cold air is like Stewy from Family Guy: Victory is Mine!!! It has kind of suppressed things even the Thursday system if the 0Z models are to be believed. This was an impressive shot of cold air-no bones about that!!! That front has not moved an inch North since yesterday afternoon from an East of Oklahoma City line!!!!


2.   It is wild/freaky/crazy when you think about the fact that we have had 3 possibly 4 (depending on Thursday) storm systems in the past 12 days that have come through the general area and we have missed all but one and even that one only affected a small section of the viewing area. Look at this morning-if that band of precipitation in SE Kansas was about 150 miles north we would have a totally different looking Monday morning. The more I have thought about it, the more I realize just how much lightening Lawrence did catch in the bottle last Tuesday-we got lucky going 1 for 3!!! If Kansas City was hit by all three of these storms head on, this winter could have gone down as legendary. Just crazy that you can 3 to 4 systems in the area and a fairly good part of the viewing area misses all of them by about 100 miles.  My whole point with this is that the storms have been there, the cold air has been there, they just didn’t hit right. Again, imagine the thought about this winter if all three of these systems had hit the Topeka-Kansas City area head on. It is just crazy!!!


3.  Thursday: the models are like throwing a dart blindfolded on that one-both Euro and GFS want to take it to Mexico City before it heads back north but the Euro wants to have it sit down in Mexico for about 3 days-who knows-that is going to be a wild solution to follow and to see what the cold air actually does. Again, to me, the important aspect is that there is going to be a storm just as we saw on 12-28-the final final before the blow torch kicks in mid week next week.


4.  Numbers 2 and 3 aside, I am going to enjoy the next few days as the models are already picking up on the impending blow torch of November and early January coming back. To me, these are the last days of true winter for the winter of 2007-2008. What I mean is the last days of having true cold with some snow left hanging around. I for sure believe early to mid March will be interesting and have the cold cycle come back through but by then our average high temperatures are in the 50’s here in Lawrence so a high of 32 is almost 20 degrees below normal-so a high of 32 in March would be kind of like yesterday. It may snow big then, but it just won’t be true winter-not sure if this makes sense or not but I hope it does!!!


Just some random musings on this cold morning-I am still shaking my head at how much of the metro can miss on 3 storms in 12 days-just crazy. Man, with this cold in place just imagine if we could have popped a surface/upper level low from the 4 corners today….

Will be fun to see what happens with our traveling/vacationing in Mexico low for Thursday-maybe it will head down to Cancun and catch some rays!!!! LOL

Have a great day-bundle up-it is cold out this morning!!!! As always, thanks for reading and providing such a great place to discuss/learn about the weather-Like I told Jeremy yesterday, the fish may not be biting, but the fishing has been excellent!!!

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

This is the part of the pattern that was extremely dry during late October into November.  And, it is acting this way again now, even though it is wet just southeast of us on these storm systems.  It is a bit frustrating to have all of these cold Canadian surges with no snow.

Gary

February 11, 2008 5:36 AM
 

coffeelover said:

I for one am glad we missed out on any thing major,I would rather have a foot of snow that any ice!! Thanks for allways keeping us informed,have a great day all
February 11, 2008 5:57 AM
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