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A wild March is in the forecast!

Good morning everyone,

March begins Saturday and it will come in like a lamb.  Look below at this temperature forecast for Saturday.  This is the GFS forecast for high temperatures Saturday:

The highs around the Big Bend area of Texas will be around 85 on Saturday.  The highs over parts of eastern Alaska to northwest Canada will be around -35 degrees.  This is a 120 degree contrast.  ONE HUNDRED TWENTY!  This alone should be a warning sign of what lies ahead during the next month.  March will have some wild moments and it will be roaring like a lion at times.

We believe that the weather pattern across the northern hemisphere is cycling every 50 days (give or take a few days as it isn't perfectly 50 days).  The weather pattern set up during October and early November and has continued.  We noticed the pattern repeating in December and now we are about to move into the fourth cycle of 50 days (this year's LRC).  As we move through each cycle we learn more about the weather pattern.  By January we gain enough confidence to make longer range forecasts.  And, this year we have finally gotten a bit more specific in these forecasts and, so far, the forecasts have been more accurate than any other long range forecasting technique.  On January 2nd we issued a forecast for the next 50 days, including the forecast of Arctic outbreaks for the second half of January, and for harsh winter weather as we moved into February.  Other forecasts, based on La Nina and other factors, were calling for a warm second half of January into February.  And, even today some of these long range forecasts are still calling for it to possibly be above average in March.  There is no way that it will be.  This pattern is too consistent. 

So, why has it been so cold? Another part of the LRC are the positions of what I call "long term" longwave troughs and ridges.  I believe these big features, that recur regularly, are set by early November, and this is what we use to issue the winter forecast so early (although maybe we should wait until we know the cycle better in December before issuing the winter prediction). One strong feature is a "long term" longwave trough located just east of Kansas City, near or just west of the Mississippi River (look at the map above).  When we issued the winter forecast in November we noticed this feature.  I didn't realize, in November, that it was going to be dominating the weather pattern, but by December we thought that we were in for an exciting winter ride of storms and cold.  But, we also knew that the biggest snowstorms would be located near or just east of the trough position (Madison, WI has shattered their all time seasonal snow record and are heading to over 100 inches).  This "long term" longwave trough is one of the biggest reason's for the cold and stormy winter in our part of the nation.  Storm systems intensify as they move into the trough.  Even weaker features tend to produce storm systems.  So, this is why we have had so many days with snow (about 30 days with snowfall this season), and it has been wet.  Remember, this pattern will continue, if you believe in the LRC, through spring, and even into summertime in a very weakened state. 

Now, back to the temperature map above.  A brutally cold Arctic air mass is forming now over Canada, and it is going to shift back to the west over northwest Canada and Alaska.  As we saw last month, once it gets to this spot it will come down into the United States and affect Kansas City.  So, just think about it.  If this Arctic air mass is going to come down, and the first surge will be due next week, and then the series of 4 to 7 storm systems returns as has happened in the first three cycles, then it just makes you wonder what will happen.  The last two times through the cycle, Arctic air was close enough to our region to be tapped by many of these storm systems.  Will the March version of this part of the cycle do the same thing? 

Spring and winter will be begin a major battle that will last into April and May.  The good news......eventually the longer days will win out and the jet stream will begin retreating.  So, warmer days are ahead, but expect wild ups and downs during the next month with a few winter storms.  Severe thunderstorms will also be possible, but initially the threats will likely be south of our local area.

Have a great day!

Gary

 

Published Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:26 AM by glezak

Comments

 

juba said:

Please hurry up Gary, I want to see today's blog! Thanks, Byan.
February 27, 2008 6:47 AM
 

juba said:

My C.P.U. is slow, sorry. Will Olathe see any severe weather in march, abd also you said it would get iin to the 70's, I hope that feels warmer than it did in January? Thanks, Byan.
February 27, 2008 6:51 AM
 

StormWyndd said:

Morning Gary & Brett
Frost on the car this morning, I'll be so glad when I don't have to scrape anymore.  

I try to watch your forecast, but more often than not, end up missing it.  I was wondering if there is any way to put a small video of the latest forecast with a link on your site somewhere?  

Like a tape of Brett this morning, then put in a new one at noon etc.  With severe storm season coming, that would help keep everyone up to date on the latest.  

I do tune into the blog most every day from work, but most of the time don't have time to sit and read through the whole thing (especially where there are tons of posts.)
Thanks for listening and wow, definately looking forward to this warm up.

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If you watch our netcast, it finishes with our forecast.  This is loaded in when you first go to our webpage.

Gary

February 27, 2008 7:47 AM
 

Bob in OP said:

Gary,

Good job with the March forecast. All your points make sense to this reader. I agree that we likely see "winter type" storm systems in March but, I am having my doubts about seeing much in the way of a "real" snow storm beyond a short "wet snow" event like we saw develop last Saturday night. It could happen but, the "set up" [deep cold air, upper air flow and other atmospheric dynamics] would have to be near perfect to see such an event here in March because of the warmer sun, longer days and our latitude. I see a cold rain or sleet event as more likely. Regardless, it will be fun to watch and discuss...

Bob

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Bob,

I understand what you are saying, but at this time of the year, through March, we are very capable of still having some big snowfalls.

Gary

February 27, 2008 7:53 AM
 

JudyH said:

I am wondering about the “big picture” and the LRC:
1. Does the weather cycle continue all the way around the northern hemisphere (i.e. Europe and Asia)?
2. Is there a similar cycle in the southern hemisphere?
3. If so, are both cycles the same number of days in any given year? I think if you could answer that question, it might help with understanding how the cycle sets up.
But you would probably need an army of grad students to find the answers!

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Yes, we do need an army of PHD students to analyze all of the data, due statistical analysis, and a lot more.  It is the entire northern hemisphere that has the cycling pattern.  There likely is something similar going on in the southern hemisphere as well.  Every year has a different pattern and cycle as each year is unique.

Gary

February 27, 2008 8:24 AM
 

StormWyndd said:

Gary,
Duh, I found it.  Thanks!  Guess I needed more caffine this morning.

I usually go straight from the NBC homepage straight to the blog, so I just missed the weather videos on the weather page.  But I am glad I found them, that will make keeping up so much easier this spring!  (And I love the little yellow ducky animation.  How fun!)

Thanks again.
February 27, 2008 9:27 AM
 

boootz said:

So Gary, do you think we should hold off on any planting until later in March, sounds like this could be an "iffy" year where the last hard frost is concerned. Don't want to get burned again like I did last year

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I think it will be very easy to make this decision in March. There will be many more hard freezes through the month.  You will have to ask the question again as we move into April.

Gary

February 27, 2008 9:27 AM
 

Bob in OP said:

Bob,

I understand what you are saying, but at this time of the year, through March, we are very capable of still having some big snowfalls.

Gary
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Gary,

Definitely capable! My point was that in March there are more challenging mitigating factors to overcome in order for there to be a significant snow storm in KC. And, it actually "seems like" we are generally having to overcome these critical factors [warm upper air flow during storm events, exact storm track not being right, dry slot placement near us, timing of storm development or intensification, etc.] with most every storm system in KC regardless of the date during the winter season. Then again, we may just see a snow storm occur this year based on this season's LRC.

Bob

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The following was posted this morning on the NWS website. It is important to note how many snow seasons have been less than 30.0" here in KC:

Kansas City Cold Season Winter Rankings-Highest Total Snowfall (inches)
Days: 10/1 - 3/31
Length of period: 182 days
Years: 1888-2008

Rank  Value  Ending Date  
1    67.0  3/31/1912  
2    56.8  3/31/1960  
3    53.6  3/31/1962  
4    37.3  3/31/1915  
5    37.1  3/31/1924  
6    36.3  3/31/1898  
7    35.9  3/31/1926  
8    33.9  3/31/1919  
9    33.7  3/31/1993
10    33.4  3/31/1899, 3/31/1893
12    31.4  3/31/1979
13    31.2  3/31/1958
14    29.8  3/31/1965, 3/31/1905
16    29.5  3/31/1959
17    29.3  3/31/1896
18    29.2  3/31/1978
19    28.9  3/31/1897
20    28.1  3/31/1982
21    27.9  3/31/1997
22    27.1  3/31/1929
23    26.8  3/31/1949
24    26.5  3/31/1914
25    26.4  3/31/1985
26    26.3  3/31/1988, 3/31/1891
28    26.2  3/31/1930 (1)
29    25.6  3/31/1964, 3/31/1956
31    24.5  3/31/1933, 3/31/1894
33    24.4  3/31/1984
34    24.1  3/31/1902
35    24.0  3/31/1901
36    23.7  3/31/1916
37    23.5  3/31/1980, 2/26/2008
39    23.4  3/31/1906
40    22.8  3/31/2001
41    22.5  3/31/1900

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Thanks Bob for the list.  How high up the list will we go?  We should post this next week as we move into our next chance of snow.  Look how rare it is for us to have more than 30 inches of snow.

 

Gary

February 27, 2008 9:27 AM
 

dopplerbob said:

Gary,

Long time viewer, First time blogger.  Love all the information that you give out.

I wanted to know where is a good place to get past weather maps/graphs so that I can compare them with current information.

Thanks

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There are a few sites, maybe one of the bloggers can help.  I have to go workout right now.  Welcome to blogging!  I will try to add it in here when I get back.

Gary

February 27, 2008 9:59 AM
 

MrSteve said:

We all need to start thinking "Fair Weather". Warm! Warm ! Warm!

The world is  ten weeks away from running out of wheat supplies after stocks fell to their lowest levels for 50 years.

The crisis is going to push prices to an all-time high and could lead to further hikes in the price of bread, beer, biscuits and other basic foods.

So, lets all think together easy does her' there gal and maybe mother nature will respond so a loaf of bread doesn't end up being $10 a loaf this summer.

(LOL-Sheesh)







February 27, 2008 10:08 AM
 

marlina10 said:

Ugh, I don't want to hear about snowfalls anymore! It's March, bring on the spring weather and short sleeves! I got back from a trip to Mexico last night and it was a cold reality check arriving back here to 20 degree temperatures!
February 27, 2008 10:12 AM
 

PoofDragon said:

Sounds like a typical March to me, Gary. Warm, cold, wet, stormy; pretty much everything but drought. Not so much drama, really.

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Well, typical, but with this year's twist.  It will be an interesting ride for sure.

Gary

February 27, 2008 10:24 AM
 

BBTye said:

I have to say, with all the moisture we've had up here north of St. Joseph and your prediction of a wet Spring, I'm a little worried about the potential for significant flooding.  It was pretty bad up here last spring, with many bridges washed out and fields flooded...and that was after a relatively calm winter...

What will 2008 bring?...
February 27, 2008 10:45 AM
 

WeatherWatcher said:

Weather Team--OK I'm worried now with the talk of Winter storms in March. I have to fly out of KC to New York on March 17th!!!!!! What does the long rang look like around that date? Can you give me an idea of what kind of weather you think I might meet in New York as well?? Wonder if I'll be setting in the airport waiting !!!
Thanks

WeatherWatcher

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The odds are low at any specific time.  March 17th could be in between storms.

Gary

February 27, 2008 11:03 AM
 

PoofDragon said:

Wow. I'm going to start counting the number of times the word "worried" is used. Twice already in 11 posts.
February 27, 2008 11:25 AM
 

4caster said:

Well, we have passed (or are approaching) the next evolution of a cycle that happened the first week of January.  Jan 6 was very warm and Jan 7 was a severe outbreak (maybe not outbreak level, but several severe storms).  Now, the 50-54 day cycle would place this on yesterday to Saturday.  I see a big warm up for the weekend and a new storm system moving in late Sunday.  Could this be the cycle I've been looking for?  
Let's look at 102 hours out on the GFS.  We see a vigorous front moving through with decent vorticity and warm air in place. Now this makes it a 55 day cycle, but I am using a +/- 2 days on a 54 day cycle.  
What is everyone else thinking?  Let's talk!!!

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I see it as very close to 50 days.  It is rather easy to show with the bigger features.  This next trough, moving through Sunday and Monday is right on the part of the cycle that produced a very similar evolution and trough on January 11th-12th, or 50 to 51 days ago.  Look forward from there and, amazingly, the GFS has a somewhat realistic solution.  But, it has many errors as well.  It is a 50 day cycle, give or take a couple of days.  Everything is right on schedule in our book, and it is fascinating and will be amazing to watch.

Gary

February 27, 2008 11:36 AM
 

kane1970 said:

I'm worried. LOL


Gary,
Do you think that this is the year that you can go farther in prooving the LRC? It has really been remarkable so far this year and the year has just begun. The only thing that I think makes the LRC hard to see for some is the cycle legnth. I understand it. However, It changing a few days through the cycle may make it hard for some people to believe or even understand. How do you get around this?
February 27, 2008 11:55 AM
 

kane1970 said:

I'm worried. LOL


Gary,
Do you think that this is the year that you can go farther in prooving the LRC? It has really been remarkable so far this year and the year has just begun. The only thing that I think makes the LRC hard to see for some is the cycle legnth. I understand it. However, It changing a few days through the cycle may make it hard for some people to believe or even understand. How do you get around this?

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Well, if it were perfect it would be easy to show and prove.   It isn't perfect, but it is close to 50 days.  I find it amazing when I hear other meteorologists start saying things like "with this pattern we can expect this and that".  So many others are realizing that we are in a certain pattern.  The difficult thing for many is that I say it begins in October and then we are still in the same pattern in January, March, and even June and July.  This is where I end up losing a lot of people.  But, we believe it to be true!

This year is very consistent.  So, as we go through March I will show more comparisons.

Gary

February 27, 2008 11:59 AM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

COLD,COld,and more Cold!!

When do you think we will see our 1st Severe Weather outbreak? (Bloggers,and Gary can answer this one)

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I am still in snow mode, Andrew.  Once we see a chance of severe weather, then we can start talking about it.

Gary

February 27, 2008 12:09 PM
 

4caster said:

Help me out:  what happened on the 11-12th of Jan.?  I have a little warm up but no precip or drastic change in weather.  Also, that was the end of several warm days.  I would feel more comfortable with that time frame if we were in the 40s by now.
Nothing derogatory, just trying to figure it out.

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We were 48 on the 11th aand then dropped to 32 for a high on the 13th of January.  The trough went through dry, and this one may not produce much either.   Remember, the same specific results don't happen each time through the cycle.  It would be no fun if it was exactly the same, but we believe it is directly related.  Right now we aren't expecting a big storm out of the Sunday/Monday set up.  A few days later in January, though we had a much stronger front and storm, and it is just now beginning to show up.   The ECMWF, Canadian model, and UKMET models up until today had predicted a much more substantial storm for late this weekend.  This is another way the LRC helps.  It isn't supposed to be one of our bigger storms as the last couple of times through this part of the cycle it was just a amplifying trough moving through.  So, don't expect much Sunday into Monday, but after that is when we will  be seeing a better potential for storm systems and cold.

Gary

February 27, 2008 12:42 PM
 

kane1970 said:

Gary,
Could you explain what exactly are the things to look at in compairing storms.(with the LRC) I do believe, I just need some clarification on what is the same. Is it just the trough, front or just the moisture or a combination of things. Sorry this is all new to me.

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The easiest way to compare the pattern is by looking at the upper level plots, especially the 500 mb charts.  Look at what happens Sunday into Monday, compare back to January 11th-12th.  When we have long wave features moving by the comparison's are amazing.  Sometimes some shortwave features disguise the overall pattern, but not this Sunday/Monday set up, and what happens afterwards are some of our bigger longwave features that have repeated regularly in the first 3 cycles. I am expecting it to happen again during the next 30 days.

Gary

February 27, 2008 2:35 PM
 

Sonic1098 said:

Gary,
Just curious - Has there ever been a day on record when it was 100 degrees or higher in one part of the continental US and 0 degrees or below in another part of the continental US?

Kristi

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Kristi,

I don't think so, but I am pretty certain we have seen 30 below zero and 70 degrees on the same map which would be a 100 degree contrast.

Gary

February 27, 2008 2:50 PM
 

stjoeattorney said:

You know that ugly white [-30] will break out and head south in modified fashion in 4-7 days out and then we will warm up, then; BANGO we go down hill from the 15th on we will get hit and but good.  I am sorry but those calling for warm March [not you] are just not looking at things correctly. . . They want it to warm so they are forcasting warmer temps.  We will be good with trees up here as it is still cold now up to 37 wow at 1540 hrs with a low of 18. this is 8 below the mean.
February 27, 2008 3:39 PM
 

KSuds said:

Still in snow mode Gary?  Me too...bring it on!!  My birthday is the 15th!  Maybe a 2 footer like back in 1912 is in store for me.  WOW, that would be awosome!  
I wouldn't need or want anything else for my birthday.  What are my odds?

GO MARCH!!

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In a normal March your odds would likely be about  1 to 50, since it has happened about twice every 100 years.   But, we are at about that 50 year mark!

 

Gary

February 27, 2008 3:45 PM
 

Barbara said:

I'm so done with winter...it needs to get warm and get warm soon!  Of course, the way it's been, today felt like a heat wave!  LOL!  
February 27, 2008 3:54 PM
 

Scott said:

4caster – I have held out as long as I can.  But I want to weigh in on your thoughts and Gary’s response.

LOL.

I think this upcoming Monday – 3/2 matches Jan 7/8.

http://community.nbcactionnews.com/blogs/weatherblog/archive/2008/1/7.aspx

I think the storm shown three days later in the GFS

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_174.shtml

Matches

http://community.nbcactionnews.com/blogs/weatherblog/archive/2008/01/10/2370451.aspx

And the big deal from Jan 17th that had the huge temp drops…well..that equates here –

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/fp0_300.shtml

Gary will disagree with this.  I have not fully conceded to a 50 day pattern.  I am still seeing evidence of a 52-54 day cycle.

If I take this March 11th storm and go back 50 days, I get Jan. 21st  

While both bringing arctic air, the precip pattern is MUCH different.  

I still am on 52-54 and cannot yet see or accept the 50 day.  


Let the beating begin.  ;-)

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Scott,

I disagree with you!  This next system matches best with the January 11th/12th set up, and it is around 50 to 51 days.

Gary

February 27, 2008 4:33 PM
 

PoofDragon said:

I would bet (haven't looked closely yet so don't know for sure) that there are times where there might have been close to a 110 degree variance in the same day...and in the same state. It can climb to 130 in Death Valley and sink close to 0 in Truckee, CA. A quick check of record highs and lows shows a record high of 113 for Death Valley in October and a record low of 4 above in October for Truckee. That's 109 degrees. Or 102 and -10 in March, a 112 degree variance.

Now whether it's same day is probably unlikely. But huge intra-day variances like this are not uncommon.

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That couldn't happen in the same day, though, as you suspected.  Across the lower 48 states we have likely had that 110 degree contrast, and it may still happen next month.

Gary

February 27, 2008 4:37 PM
 

Scott said:

PoofDragon - especially 1500 miles apart.  LOL  TX-Canada
February 27, 2008 4:58 PM
 

Scott said:

February 27, 2008 5:11 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

AllI need is 1 maybe 2 days of warm weather, then a very cold night to freeze the ground up, and a very wet winter storm the next day.
February 27, 2008 5:24 PM
 

stjoeattorney said:

We have had 100 to 120 degree spreads all winter -40 in MN oor -30 in ND  or SD  then 77-82 in FL  or south TX or LA  or even GA. Just look in the paper for highs and lows.  It is the norm to have 100+ degree spread later on in March and in Nov Yellowstone and some cold place in CO get to -30 to -35 when FL, TX, AL, CA, GA and MS are in the 85-93 degree range.
February 27, 2008 5:25 PM
 

KCwxforecaster said:

Gary,

I was hoping you could explain how your 7 day forecast defies the laws of physics, namely the law of continuity.

Please explain how your graphic has a low of 51 Saturday night and a high of 42 Sunday. The LEAST your high could be for Sunday is 51.

In any case, that's a huge drop from the gorgeous 50s both days that was advertised a couple days ago. Interesting the NWS is still going upper 50s Sunday (which is what you had originally). Given the latest model data and timing, I would have to side with a fairly warm (and humid) start Sunday as well.

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We wanted to show that it would be 51 in the morning and then dropping during the afternoon, but right now we think the front isn't going to move through until later in the day, which would get us up to that 58 you are talking about.  If the front comes through earlier then Sunday will have falling tempereatures.  So, this is what we were trying to show.

Gary

February 27, 2008 5:33 PM
 

PoofDragon said:

KCwx....

It's probably the only (best) way to show falling temps over a period of time given the constraints of the graphics system they use.

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Yes, but since we now think the front will come through around 1 or 2 PM Sunday, it should make it up to 58 or 60.  Timing a front this far in advance is just a bit ridiculous anyway.

Gary

February 27, 2008 5:57 PM
 

zeusthegreat said:

Gary Said,  "Timing a front this far in advance is just a bit ridiculous anyway."

Gary isn't it your job to do this kinda stuff though?  You do get paid, eh?


Beautiful day out there today, hopefully tomorrow will be warmer.

Zeus

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Zeus,

Yes, but timing a cold front to the hour is difficult one day away,  this is four days away.  We shouldn't have gotten that specific, and we adjusted for it on our 6 PM newscast.

Gary

February 27, 2008 6:16 PM
 

juba said:

When you get a chance, whenever you make the next 45-50 day forecast I'd like to know when May 15th will be on there cuz im going to WORLDS OF FUN on that day with my child whom is going on a feild trip. Hope you can respond, thanks, Byan in Olathe.

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We haven't looked ahead that far yet.  You will have to wait.  I do know it will be much warmer than now.

Gary

February 27, 2008 6:23 PM
 

Hushpook said:

Lest we forget....3 of the 5 biggest snowstorms in the cities recorded history occured in March. And just 2 years ago, we had Tornado's in the region in early March.
February 27, 2008 6:46 PM
 

Scott said:

Truth be told, this storm looks more like Jan 16th than the 11th/12th.  Noticably the ridging to the east with the big low on the upper east coast.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin-spc/getuadata.spc?MyDate1=080116&Time1=12&MyDate2=&Time2=12&Align=V&Levels=500

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/18/fp0_096.shtml

But that would be 45 days..so that couldn't fit...or could it?  

Looks nearly identical...this is why I shy away from maps.  Out of ignorance I provided another map in roughly the same timeframe that matches as well.

Oh well...back to the surface.  LOL

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Scott,

Again we don't agree with you at all. The next one will look like that one. 

Gary

February 27, 2008 6:53 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

scott,

check the archives for conversations about 46.5 days...    ;)

youll want to check back to the time when the weather team was 'sure' that it was 54 days

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Pvt Murphy,

You guys can battle all you want, and we have our minds open, but it is around 50 days. 

Gary

February 27, 2008 7:18 PM
 

stjoelawyer said:

As to the timing of a cold front on Sunday  . . need to keep in mind it could move through here at 1100 hrs and not make it to Raymore untill 1530 hrs . . . not to mention its only Tuesday oops WED . . . I'll hold THE TEAM  to something. . more realistic Friday. . .

I drove by our basball field, Phil Welch Stadium, built in 1936 with lights. . . the entire field is still snow covered this was at 1830 hrs tonite.  The local college MWSU has taken the team down to AL and GA to try and get in some games.

I NEED 14 MORE 1NCHES TO GET TO <<<<60>>>>

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It may happen!

Gary

February 27, 2008 8:06 PM
 

cindylouwho said:

Looks as though others have a similar LRC to our Gary's.  Only theirs is an approx. 54 day cycle.  Check out http://stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15438 for an interesting site to listen in on other weather fanatics.  

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I did notice that a person on that forum was talking about the LRC.  It is spreading around.

Gary

February 27, 2008 8:09 PM
 

Scott said:

cindylouwho,

Nice catch.  It took some quick web sleuthing, but the other forum is referring to the content of this blog or content of those that participate here.

The individual that posted about the cycle within your link  is no one other that our friend - 4caster - that participates here [as seen posting above].  

I think it is great that he is taking this theory regardless of methods and playing with it and working with others to evaluate it.  It really is the same as what I have done in my own blog.

Gary communicated a 54 day for quite awhile while recently changing to 50 days or so.  I am still confident with a 52-54 day cycle and use that in my surface analysis.

The more the word can get out, the better!

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Scott,

Remember, I didn't change it to 50 days.  I just noticed that it was 50 days.  It isn't something we just do.

Gary



February 27, 2008 9:12 PM
 

KCwxforecaster said:

>We wanted to show that it would be 51 in the morning and then dropping during >the afternoon, but right now we think the front isn't going to move through until >later in the day, which would get us up to that 58 you are talking about.  If the >front comes through earlier then Sunday will have falling tempereatures.  So, this >is what we were trying to show.
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>Gary

OK, but the high still has to be at least equal or higher than the previous low. If you want to show falling temps, use a down arrow or something next to the high. Gotta think outside the box!

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We forecast a certain way and communicate it to the public the best we can.  Seems to work pretty well for us.  Thanks for the input though.

Jeremy

February 28, 2008 12:38 PM
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