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Watch NBC Action News beginning at 8am Saturday morning for the latest information on the big warm-up and the Sunday storm!

Happy Leap Day!  The last day of February 2008 brought with it pretty nice conditions.  Highs were generally in the upper 40s to low 50s today with 100% sunshine during the afternoon.  Finally a 'typical' weather day.

The focus is now on the weekend and the much anticipated warm-up that will occur on Saturday.  Strong south to southwest winds will kick in early Saturday and draw in much warmer air from the south-central Plains.  These locations saw highs in the 60s and 70s on Friday.  Highs close to home on Saturday will range from around 60 degrees over northeast areas, mid 60s in Kansas City, and low 70s over southwest locations.  Here are the exact numbers the models(12Z) were spitting out for a high temperature at KCI on Saturday.  This gives you a snapshot of how our own knowledge and judgement goes into finalizing a forecast each day with such a wide range of guidance to view.

NGM:  75

NAM:  65

GFS:  63

In-house model:  65

With the expected mixing that will occur tomorrow and strong warm air advection I'm leaning in the mid 60s for the metro...but wouldn't be totally shocked if a few bank thermometers showed 70.

Temperatures for Saturday are challenge number 1.  Challenge number 2 is a much greater one that will be fine tuned as we head into the weekend.  The timing of a cold front, available moisture, precipitation amounts, and possible changeover to snow.  These questions are associated with our next storm which will arrive later Sunday and continue into Monday.  The 18Z models continue to pull the heavier precipitation to the north.  The 18Z GFS being the most aggressive with the northern shift.  To show you how close this may be to no rain/snow or a lot of rain/some snow let's look at the accumulated precipitation maps from the NAM & GFS.

Here is the NAM 36 hour precipitation total for the Sunday/Monday time frame.

Now here is the GFS accumulated precipitation forecast from the 18Z run.  Notice the heavier totals are much farther north.  This would have the metro in over 1" of precip in all locations!

  Sunday looks like a day in the 50s to around 60 before the front arrives.  Areas like Sedalia, Clinton, Iola, and Harrisonville should be in the 60s that day...maybe even close to 70 in Clinton.  But for our northern friends highs will likely be in the 40s in Maryville!  The colder air will eventually win out and temperatures will fall into the 40s during the afternoon in KC.  The question that will be answered hopefully sooner rather than later is if the northern trend of the precipitation will continue and will enough cold air work in to change this over the snow and produce accumulations in some areas.  I'll add more thoughts soon! 

Thanks for hanging in there with the slow loading speed on the blog the past few days.  The web crew is working on an upgrade and this should be done soon...we hope:)  Make sure to check back often as we will keep you updated on the weekend and bring you Kansas City's most accurate forecast!

Jeremy

Published Friday, February 29, 2008 4:19 PM by Jeremy WxPlus

Comments

 

Alden said:

I am having trouble receiving KSHB on the digital signal. I am having to switch over to the normal version. Is there a reason for this?

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There was a problem...I think it is fixed.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 5:03 PM
 

JPnKC said:

Nice Update Jeremy!

It will be interesting to see how this storm plays out...

I want to send you an email - what is your address?

It is a picture from an office I oversee in Madison, WI..it shows how tired they are of winter..

Thanks!

JP

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I look forward to seeing it.

jnelson@nbcactionnews.com

 

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 5:08 PM
 

simplykristi said:

We are having trouble with channel 41 on DISH Network. :(  I will have to get the forecast off the website.

Kristi

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Kristi,

I think it is fixed.  Keep me updated.  Thanks.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 5:17 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Jeremy,

Are you thinking there will be any significant snow accumulations, or is it still to far out to tell???

I hope this storm materializes enough to produce widespread heavy rain of more that an inch, and some significant snowfall in the viewing area...We have had maybe one or two signficant snowfalls this year in Marceline...Lots of days of snow, but nothing really major.

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It may be tough to get the air cold enough quick enough to see a significant snow.  Right now it looks like a rain to mix/snow.  Accumulations are possible...but I want to see how the trend works out into Saturday morning before talking numbers.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 5:54 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

  Hello Jeremy-------- So do you think we'll have snow here in the metro sun night into mon, i know you said it's possible

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I think it's possible:)  Really I can't say with 100% confidence either way yet.  Tonight at 10 and also tomorrow morning at 8am I'll have a better idea...tune in then.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 7:14 PM
 

simplykristi said:

Hi Jeremy,
We were able to watch at six. :)  The weather looks interesting on Sunday and Monday.

Kristi
February 29, 2008 7:20 PM
 

Greg said:

Today was great, tommorrow looks awesome! I realize we will have ups and downs in March, but "old man winter" is a short timer. Bring on spring baby!!!

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After Sunday it won't feel much like Spring as highs will be back to the 30s and 40s.  Averages warm into the 50s by next week!

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 7:32 PM
 

simplykristi said:

We go back on daylight savings on Sun., March 9th.  I can't wait. :)

Kristi

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Kristi,

I'm looking forward to it too!  Although...I wonder if it being light outside will affect my kid's ability to fall asleep in the evening:)

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 7:38 PM
 

MCIRamp said:

Hey Jeremy!

Excellent blog.  I am looking forward to seeing spring even if just for a day.  From my point of view, we are already in a prolonged warm-up.  No more teens for highs.  30's really doesn't seem that bad anymore.  Maybe that's the Wisconsin in me...  Even the "See Text" is creeping further north! :)  That's a whole new can of worms that I'm sure we'll be dealing with soon enough.  Have a great weekend!

TW
February 29, 2008 7:50 PM
 

MCIRamp said:

Hey Jeremy!

Excellent blog.  I am looking forward to seeing spring even if just for a day.  From my point of view, we are already in a prolonged warm-up.  No more teens for highs.  30's really doesn't seem that bad anymore.  Maybe that's the Wisconsin in me...  Even the "See Text" is creeping further north! :)  That's a whole new can of worms that I'm sure we'll be dealing with soon enough.  Have a great weekend!

TW

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TW,

Thanks for checking in!  Saturday should feel pretty good!  Sunday won't be bad either...just the ending of the day that may be a downer for some.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 7:50 PM
 

Brent said:

this blog is so messed up...it takes 10 minutes to open the blogs...and its all slowed up...

I thought I heard someone say that something was messed up...

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Brent,

We mentioned this yesterday that there has been work going on with the blog.  It takes a while to load...but I've still been able to post and respond to comments.  Seems to be worse at times...then okay for a while.  I'll let everyone know when things are back to normal.  Also, if you have dial-up that may slow things down even more.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 7:53 PM
 

Brent said:

lets hope it goes back to normal before snow arrives!
February 29, 2008 8:00 PM
 

LRCfan said:

Jeremy I guess it's no surprise the models are starting to trend a bit north they been doing that all season lol. LRC rules!!!!!!!!!

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Seems like more times than not there is a tendency to see a shift north.  The question is how far north the trend will really be.

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 8:06 PM
 

juba said:

What I think for Sunday in East Olathe is. . . . . . . . . .
Fair to partlycloudy with clouds and rain showers (maybe t-showers) in the P.M.
With the high being between, 60 and 67 degrees and more likely for t-storms right before the codl front comes threw. Maybe an inch or two over night. That is just what I think. Also how do you put pictures on the blog, I have some really neat that I'd like to post, but it didn't work when I tried to put them no. . . . . . .

Byan in Olathe.

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Byan,

Any pictures that you see on the blog are posted by us.  You can email them to us and we'll check them out. 

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 8:21 PM
 

Brent said:

I have DSL Jeremy
February 29, 2008 8:38 PM
 

f00dl3 said:

Latest NAM is actually showing the 540 arriving right with the heavy precip...

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The link was too long...sorry...it messes with the blog.

Jeremy


February 29, 2008 8:46 PM
 

Brent said:

whats the 540 then?
February 29, 2008 8:56 PM
 

radman22 said:

Brent, you have been on this blog for a long time now,  you really do not know what the 540 line is?    

Indicates the 540 decametre line on the 1000-500 thickness chart. Often used as a rough guide to determine when an airmass is cold enough to produce winter precip.
February 29, 2008 9:18 PM
 

K10K7 said:

Hi Jeremy,

Tomorrow looks great, but my concern is on Sunday.  Trying to set a tee time for the first round of the year at around 1230 in Lawrence.  Keep us posted on the timing of that front if you would please.

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Very windy with temperatures falling by mid to late afternoon. The rain may begin in the afternoon. Can you play in the morning?  Saturday is the best golf day:)

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 9:21 PM
 

Scott said:

Folks..the cold air will lag behind the heaviest precip.  This type of set up has convective properties that is helping with the rain totals.  I still think the metro will be split with the heaviest rain SE of the city.  I would be suprised to see if KMCI goes much over half an inch.

It could snow afterwords, but it wont have as much moisture to work with as it will go with the front/lift/forcing.

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The cutoff is very sharp.  The potential exists for the north side of the city to see around 0.50" and the south side over 1".  That is how close a call this is.  Any shift either way and it could go to 0 or over 1" at KCI!  Keep in mind the 6Z panel of the NAM for Monday has precip. amounts from 00 to 6Z(cumulative for the 6 hr. window).  Not everything that would fall would be snow.  Very likely very little if any would be snow.  After midnight is the best chance for a mix or changeover. 

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 9:23 PM
 

juba said:

If you (Jeremy are still responding to blogs) what is your email address to seend pictures that you can post, what is it. Byan.

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jnelson@nbcactionnews.com

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 10:03 PM
 

juba said:

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Okay thanks...

Jeremy

February 29, 2008 10:09 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Bring on the rain!!!......MUDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 29, 2008 10:33 PM
 

stjoelawyer said:

MY HOOK UPS TO THE BLOB HAVE BEEN VERY VERY LOE AT HOME AND AT WORK AT WORK AS WELL....LOOKS LIKE PRECP will miss me tat is good do not need it will enjoy it SAT after the hangover goog nite....from STJOE
February 29, 2008 11:12 PM
 

radman22 said:

With spelling like the Stjoelawyer, I say you had a wild Friday night :)

Hope you dont feel too bad in the morning.  Drink alot of water!!!!
February 29, 2008 11:37 PM
 

LRCfan said:

stjoelawyer I remember those days before I was married get some rest lol!!!!!!!!
March 1, 2008 12:05 AM
 

FutureNursLori said:

Ibuprofen helps too as it decreases inflammation in your liver.  Sorry, I just have to share some of the interesting, and sometimes useless, information I have gathered since beginning nursing school.  

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I've found that working both mornings and evening on the weekend prevents hangovers since there is no time to go out:)

Jeremy

March 1, 2008 12:09 AM
 

twister11 said:

... and this is how we write on the blog when Gary is gone?... wow, and the "kids" are the immature ones?

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I think everyone has moved on...time to discuss the warm-up and then wild Sunday/Monday.

Jeremy

March 1, 2008 12:19 AM
 

Nick Rau said:

Well I like the new GFS, it has us in the game!  The Newer NAM is better than a few runs ago but it still has us on the razor edge of this stuff, come on trend... just a bit more...;)   Tomorrow will feel like Bermuda, considering.
March 1, 2008 12:45 AM
 

Bryan said:

So Jeremy how is the weekend forecast looking?

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About the same as yesterday.  Rain arrives during the afternoon on Sunday.

Jeremy

March 1, 2008 6:30 AM
 

StormWyndd said:

Good morning.  Wow 7:30 and already 44 degrees.  It is going to be a fantastic day!  Sure hope the rains hold off so I can get a some things done outside tomorrow.

If I can offer a reminder to everyone too, please keep track of your dogs and close the gates.  Seems every time we get really nice days, I end up seeing doggies that got loose.  
March 1, 2008 7:35 AM
 

Ice Dogg said:

Hey the weather channel on TWC  just said 3" to 5" of snow tomorrow night. Is that possible with it being 69 degrees today. Will the ground warm up too much for it to pile up?

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I think the question is when will the rain change to snow and how much snow will fall.  The 2 days of warm temps can be overcome by heavy enough snow...plus most spots still have a thick layer of frost in the ground.  I'll put some more thoughts out in the next hour.

Jeremy

March 1, 2008 3:10 PM
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