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Severe Thunderstorm Potential...updated at 3:15 PM

3:15 PM update:  The surface low has continued developing and sagging south.   It is forming west of Chanute Kansas, and this should keep the the tornado threat down near the Oklahoma and Arkansas borders.  We will likely see a few showers and thunderstorms form north of the low in our viewing area, but the main threat will be some hail.

Previous entry below:

Good afternoon bloggers,

A tornado watch has been issued for the southern half of our viewing area.  There is very little immediate threat as the thunderstorms that formed this morning have now moved off to the east with a wave aloft.  As we move through the afternoon, as discussed the past two days, a storm is going to begin rapidly developing and intensifying. We are in the developing area which makes it quite tricky.  Thunderstorms will likely form this afternoon and then rapidly shift east and northeast this evening.  By 9 PM the threat will have moved well off to the north and east. But, we will have to watch this situation closely between 4 PM and 8 PM tonight as the conditions come together for possible supercell thunderstorms.  Large hail will be the main threat, especially for the elevated thunderstorms in the cooler air.  The tornado threat is highest way down south near the Oklahoma and Arkansas borders.

Here is the 1 PM surface map below: 

Warm moist air is being pulled into the storm as it is just now coming together this afternoon.  Will it be enough to trigger the big thunderstorms?  Yes, but when will they form?  As I said above, the best chance of them forming is between 4 PM and 8 PM tonight.   Let's watch the surface low as it may sag southeast along the warm front as it will be affected by the much warmer air mass to the south. 

Our newscast is on at 6 PM.  So, watch NBC Action News at 6 PM as we track these developments.  If severe weather threatens, then you know we will be there for you.  Have a great afternoon, and stay with NBC Action News, we'll keep you advised.

Gary

Published Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:04 PM by glezak

Comments

 

twister11 said:

so you are expecting more possible thunderstorm development besides the current storms?

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Yes.

Gary

May 10, 2008 1:25 PM
 

LVStormSpotter said:

twister, yes, later this afternoon look out to your west out towards topeka to kc area for development.

If the sun makes it out these could easily become severe.
May 10, 2008 1:38 PM
 

Wthrlvr said:

I'm finding it hard to believe at this point that we'll see storms develop here at all. With all the cloud cover, dew points only in the 50's and the pressure has even risen here a little in Olathe after it had been dropping.  Even with what I understand about the storm coming in, it just doesn't seem like a set up for thunderstorms. Maybe some rain, but storms? I guess we'll see! I'm enjoying each day of this interesting, wet season. Janet
May 10, 2008 1:42 PM
 

weather » Blog Archive » Severe Thunderstorm Potential said:

May 10, 2008 1:43 PM
 

simplykristi said:

My gut feeling is... no tornadoes.  Maybe some wind and hail.  The bigger risk for tornadoes will be to the south of the metro area.

Kristi
May 10, 2008 1:44 PM
 

twister11 said:

I am with wthrlover. i havent seen the sun all day. and my dew point has only gone up 1 degree in the past 3 hrs.
May 10, 2008 1:50 PM
 

simplykristi said:

My head is spinning....  My dad just called.  He is not going to be home for awhile.  It sounds like they are going to start chemo on Monday.

Kristi
May 10, 2008 1:51 PM
 

weathermom said:

So the fact that it is super cloudy and cool, and it doesn't appear that the sun will come out, may NOT inhibit severe weather chances?!!  I'm just trying to understand...this seems so odd that we have a tornado watch, as I just turned on the heat to warm things up in here!!  :)  Do you expect it to significantly warm up as we go throught the afternoon?  sorry for all the questions.  kathleen
May 10, 2008 1:54 PM
 

twister11 said:

ok I guess Gary is right. there is now an MD for central, eastern KS. Risk for supercells this evening.
May 10, 2008 1:54 PM
 

simplykristi said:

twister,
Do you have a link for the MD?

Kristi
May 10, 2008 1:58 PM
 

JPnKC said:

May 10, 2008 2:02 PM
 

twister11 said:

here is a link Kristi: How long they think they going to keep him in the hospital for? I feel so sorry for people that have to stay there. I hate hospitals.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0861.html
May 10, 2008 2:02 PM
 

simplykristi said:

Thanks you two!

twister,
I spent enough time in hospitals.  I think that I have visited the hospital more in the last two days than I have since I was last in one nine years ago.  I think that I will be spending a lot more time at St. Lukes.  That is where my dad is.

I don't know how long he will be there.  I will have to speak with his nurse when I get there.

Kristi
May 10, 2008 2:09 PM
 

JPnKC said:

Lots of realestate out there with Tornado Watches this afternoon...a chasers paradise today in the South...watching the skies and radars to see if how close it will be to us--JP
May 10, 2008 2:13 PM
 

twister11 said:

ok, our dew point and the temp has dropped.
May 10, 2008 2:13 PM
 

simplykristi said:

Front is way out to our west, twister.

Kristi  
May 10, 2008 2:16 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

I am at 58 degrees, DP of 53 in Lenexa.
May 10, 2008 2:18 PM
 

twister11 said:

ya its pretty far out there. the nws in wichita said the main action will be east of 1-35.
May 10, 2008 2:20 PM
 

Randy Cooper said:

i just got home from my college graduation. woohoo! lookin forward to some rumbles later
May 10, 2008 2:22 PM
 

BigJG said:

This is a question about the blog in general.  I have a couple ideas I would like to introduce.  Who do I contact?  One of my ideas is a live chat option that allows us all to chat live without having to wait for comments to be posted.  I think it would be very beneficial during bad weather.  I know it's possible to do this because I've visited other websites that have it.  On the weather side of things, it sure does feel cool outside.  Overcast seems to be the buzzword today.
May 10, 2008 2:34 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Light rain showers here in La Cygne. Temp is reading 61 degrees. Are severe storms possible with this cold of a temp?

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Hail is the main threat...but depending on where the surface low moves and how far north the warm front pushes will determine any tornado threat.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 2:38 PM
 

NorthlandGirl said:

Congrats Randy!!!  Kristi, I'll be thinking of you this weekend and as your dad starts treatment on Monday...

Glad I got the yard mowed before this stretch of wet and cool weather.  Ho hum...  

Family in NW Iowa is really struggling to get crops in based on this weather as well.  My grandmother was a local weather recorder for the NWS in Iowa for 57 years, and my uncle now does it since she passed 9 years ago.  He was looking back over the log books as she always recorded planting days for the corn and beans, and he is averaging 3 weeks behind from what he can tell so far.  
May 10, 2008 2:41 PM
 

Tornadoe » Severe Thunderstorm Potential said:

May 10, 2008 3:08 PM
 

mattwalker said:

gary do you think i should go to the royals game tonight?  they are giving away free umbrellas
May 10, 2008 3:10 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

So what do you all think about potential severe weather down here in Joplin? We're supposed to go out tonight to celebrate our anniversary. I don't want to get caught in it.

Sorry Kristi, for what all you are dealing with.
May 10, 2008 3:34 PM
 

twister11 said:

those storms southwest of us are making a move.
May 10, 2008 3:51 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

Well, Twister , from the updated post, it sounds like we are just stuck with cold temps, some rain later, and nothing interesting.
May 10, 2008 3:56 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

our dew point is at 52 degrees...the pressure is falling.  considering our high temp was 58 today here at the fort, 52 degree dewpoint comes out to nearly 80%RH which isnt terrible.  but highs in the 50's arent very encouraging for big storms.  i have a feeling we will get some gusty winds and some thunder, and thats it...especially the further north you go.

i am intrigued over the continual cool weather pattern.  highs in the 50's in nearly mid may....only hit 80 one time since the beginning of october...no indication of real warmth potential in site.  if this continues into summer, i see it becoming a big storyline.  and a major fly in the ointment for GW alarmists.  

we all remember how cool last spring was...with the late freeze and all...however, to this date last year, kci had already hit 80 degrees 7 times that year, compared with one here.  not to mention, the countless more 70 degree days last year compared to this year...

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Outside of Monday & Tuesday...we may have a hard time hitting 70 or better this week.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 3:57 PM
 

chfs327 said:

Open house is still going on. It started at 12:30PM and continue till 4:30PM.

Started up at 5Am and Mowed the lawn and got everything cleaned up. Im very tired so even if we do have severe weather then I wot really notice.

Hopefully since Olathe is on the Boundry line for everything so far that we wont have to worry about anything. Wind advisory for Olathe Northward and Tornado watch for Olathe Southward.
May 10, 2008 3:58 PM
 

momof3 said:

Kristy- Keep the faith.  That is a tremendous part of the battle.  Let Gary be an obvious example of that.  Know that all of us here are thinking of you and your family.  Onto the weather side of things, here's hoping for some good thunderstorms later tonight.  I really do like the idea of the live chat option.  That would be really neat!
May 10, 2008 3:58 PM
 

juba said:

Its cold and rizzling outside, it is SO stupid were in a tornado whatch, I could understand a severe t-storm whatch but a tornado whatch?

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I'm not going to write this off...but the heat and high dew points aren't that far away.  Dew point around 70 in far southeast Kansas!  Hail is probably the biggest threat with any storm that turns severe in our viewing area.

Jeremy 

May 10, 2008 4:00 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

Someone sees something interesting on the chaser blog....
5/10/08 NOW: KS/OK/MO/AR

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Thought I'd start a now thread as a discrete cell has exploded south of Wichita, KS - along with the ongoing convention to the east in AR.

The KS cell already has a nice couplet and a hook forming. I hope someone is on that one. Per RUC analysis, it's formed right northeast of the surface low in due easterly surface winds and is headed into a tongue of 1500 to 2500 J/KG CAPE, low to mid 60s dewpoints, and very high helicity.

HOLY MOLY, another discrete cell has a-bombed east of the initial cell within 20 minutes. Explosive development looks to be forming into a broken line of supercells along I35 near Salina and to the south. The cell east of the Arkansas City cell wasn't there 20 minutes ago and is already a golfball producer.

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Last edited by Andrew Stoller : Today at 03:45 PM.

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Sean Wilson is in SW MO today.  I'd say he may find some action this evening.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 4:06 PM
 

twister11 said:

jeri, could you post a link from that blog, please? I would like to see the site
May 10, 2008 4:10 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

May 10, 2008 4:16 PM
 

juba said:

GAry, is the warm moist air going to get to us or not, byan?

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No

May 10, 2008 4:21 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

Jeremy, don't say that. Thanks for the link Jeri. We keep getting an interuption in broadcast because of that storm. It's headed directly east.

Shooo, bad weather.

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Since it is a dreary day here I'm glad I haven't had to cut into golf on NBC yet.  I'm guessing some of the golfers that would have played today stayed in to watch.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 4:23 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

I know, Jeremy, again I couldn't go...gotta pay for the new house . That's 3 or 4 times so far..sheesh :(
May 10, 2008 4:23 PM
 

Dwxtracker said:

In the middle of all this drizzle, our temp has gone up to 60 and our dew point is now up to 58° in Lenexa. Maybe there will be a little better fuel for the storms after all??

David
May 10, 2008 4:34 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

It's 75 here in Joplin.
May 10, 2008 4:37 PM
 

twister11 said:

my dewpoint has risen drastically in the past hour. I was at about 53, now im at 58.
May 10, 2008 4:37 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

I'm only at 58 degrees. I must live on the wrong side of the street.
May 10, 2008 4:39 PM
 

twister11 said:

jeri maybe your new house will bring higher dewpoints
May 10, 2008 4:42 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

I'm stuffed from going to Ryan's buffet for Mother's Day!
May 10, 2008 4:44 PM
 

bewild79 said:

twister,
where are you located
May 10, 2008 4:46 PM
 

BigJG said:

Is that broken line of storms west of Topeka the cold front?  If so it looks to be moving at a pretty good clip.

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That is right along the front.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 4:46 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

LOL Twister!
May 10, 2008 4:47 PM
 

twister11 said:

Knob Noster
May 10, 2008 4:48 PM
 

bewild79 said:

here near kci we are at 56 dp
May 10, 2008 4:51 PM
 

LVStormSpotter said:

I would keep an eye on the storm in topeka. Its intensifying, its on its own out ahead of the line. If it were a little warmer it would be a classic setup for a tornado warning.

I'm not saying anything, but I am definitely keeping an eye on it.

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If the environment ahead of it was better it would likely be a supercell in a hurry.  Right now even hail coming from it looks very small based on the VIL's.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 4:52 PM
 

bewild79 said:

scratch that, it just went up to 57!
May 10, 2008 4:52 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Since the low is forming and sagging south will that decrease the high winds for this evening to 20-30 MPH or are we still expecting gusts to 40+? Poor old barn can't take much more high winds until I can get in with the tractor and front end loader to repair some barn tin on the roof that blew off with last weeks storm.
May 10, 2008 4:55 PM
 

mamaof3girls said:

Kristi
I work at Saint Lukes South....if you do not mind telling me is he at my work? I would love to meet you? My prayers are with you and your family. You all got alot going on. Saint Lukes is a great hospital.....I told my mom to go when she got her b***** cancer....and if I recommended it to my own family then you know I believe in it. Take Care
Monica
May 10, 2008 4:56 PM
 

LVStormSpotter said:

I agree, but with the strength of the low and the amount of shear, anything can happen. topeka has 57 as a dewpoint, 62 as temp, should be enough moisture, but the futher east the environment becomes a lot more stable.

I still think it could become super cellular, it would have to get get its act together in a hurry though.
May 10, 2008 5:05 PM
 

Scott said:

Tough to get excited about this.  Sure, its there..but without highs in the 80s with 60s dewpoints, its just not as much fun.

Blah.  LOL.

PVT - your thought above..."and a major fly in the ointment for GW alarmists.  ".  As this relates to the cool season, c'mon...you are making a broad assertion as it relates to one region of the country, and even smaller as it relates to the world.

Also, you are making an assertion based on one year of "many".  

It is not anything even significant in the greater scheme of things - IMO  

I typically don't weigh in on GW thoughts as one can argue many different angles pro/con based on the limited data available - so to this point, its hard to really make a strong stance...but thought that comment was somewhat interesting.

So...back to this "storm"..this reminds me of what I would expect in early March, not mid May.  

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The 7 day forecast also reminds me of late March or early April:)

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 5:07 PM
 

BigJG said:

Do you guys think this tornado watch will last until 7pm?
May 10, 2008 5:07 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

Looks like I've got a bad one to the south and a real nasty one just to the north. Moving east and just to the west of us tornado warnings. I'm praying for everyone in the path.

Hey,  when those bad storms pass are we done for the night? Or are more going to pop up in SE KS?
May 10, 2008 5:18 PM
 

mamaof3girls said:

My brother in law just called and Girard KS in Crawfor Co....is getting hammered with golf ball size hail. That cell just slid south of me. We are getting a few sprinkles but that is it.
Monica
Pleasanton, KS
May 10, 2008 5:18 PM
 

twister11 said:

ok well to me I am seeing some cells form ahead of the cold front.. wonder what threat these storms will pose.
May 10, 2008 5:24 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

Ok, strike that. We've got one headed right for us.
May 10, 2008 5:27 PM
 

jules7373 said:

May 10, 2008 5:28 PM
 

twister11 said:

lorie where do you live?
May 10, 2008 5:29 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

Jules, that's making mr hyper-ventilate
May 10, 2008 5:30 PM
 

jules7373 said:

Sorry :(
May 10, 2008 5:30 PM
 

jules7373 said:

I have a friend ready for chasing in Joplin right now.
May 10, 2008 5:31 PM
 

Zazel said:

This severe weather season blows, figuratively of course, since there's hasn't been of much anything in a literal sense.  You can have this crappy cold weather.  I'm headed to Cancun on Monday morning and won't be back until Memorial Day weekend.  Perhaps by then we can at least have late Spring type weather instead of this garbage.  
May 10, 2008 5:31 PM
 

radman22 said:

Looks like Joplin will get hammered once again.   Its been a rough week for them down there.
May 10, 2008 5:31 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

Twister, Joplin
May 10, 2008 5:32 PM
 

jules7373 said:

May 10, 2008 5:32 PM
 

twister11 said:

well looks like the storm is going to take a direct hit towards you.
May 10, 2008 5:36 PM
 

twister11 said:

Lorie confirmed tornado on the ground heading towards Joplin. Get in your basement!!!!!!
May 10, 2008 5:37 PM
 

bewild79 said:

those storms look scary that are headed this way
May 10, 2008 5:42 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

prediction for KCK........................

drizzle... cold.... more light rain.... even colder...........

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Add a thunderstorm or two with a chance of downpours and you have it covered.

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 5:43 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

it's hailing and I'm in the hallway. it helps to blog
May 10, 2008 5:53 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Anybody know how big the tornado is heading towards Joplin?
May 10, 2008 5:53 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

im in sw part of joplin but I think it's going to be a mile s of me if it stays moving directly east
May 10, 2008 5:54 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Any more word on the tornado?
May 10, 2008 5:55 PM
 

bewild79 said:

Stay safe Lorie!!!!
May 10, 2008 5:56 PM
 

jules7373 said:

Just says "very pronouced large funnel" on Spotternetwork
May 10, 2008 5:57 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

hopefully tiny tiny tiny and weakening but the hail is big
May 10, 2008 5:58 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

I hate my local tv. they're showing the card game. just looked at noaa and tornado is supposed to be right over me by 6. it's 6 now. guess we'll be late for dinner reservation
May 10, 2008 6:03 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

New blog lol
May 10, 2008 6:03 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

Wow, looks like the most interesting storm right now is straddling the Kansas-Oklahoma border and about to move right into Missouri...towards the Joplin area. Appears to have some decent rotation on it, although I'm not positive it had a confirmed tornado within the last 10 minutes.

AJL

EDIT: just read some of the SVS's...did have a confirmed tornado very recently.
EDIT2: Spotternetwork report of a large wedge on that storm.
May 10, 2008 6:05 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

It's lightening up. hail is over. just rain. hope there's no T buried in rain
May 10, 2008 6:05 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

Ok enough Golf..

I WANT MY NEWS

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Me too...this is eating into my time!  Softball size hail in extreme SE Kansas!  Baseball size hail in Joplin...and a tornado close by too!

Jeremy

May 10, 2008 6:06 PM
 

Lorie in SW MO said:

ok, new blog
May 10, 2008 6:07 PM
 

angela77 said:

heavy down pour and dime size hail in Greenwood, MO  7pm
May 10, 2008 7:06 PM
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