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What is this I am hearing about more to come to the area around 1 a.m.  Please confirm...

Wow, 4 inch hail in that storm near Lousiburg/Drexel/La Cygne.....thats way too much excitement there.

Thank you for you hard work.
What kind of a time line are we looking at Brett. Are these storms to night severe at all???? Thank you for your thoughts.

No winds here on Barry and 169! Not yet at least

Apparently what triggered the High Wind Warning was an 86 MPH wind gust at William Jewell College in Liberty, with widespread tree damage.

Jim in Clinton,
Looks like a bow to the west.  Another white spot in extreme NE Linn County.  That's some pretty serious weather down there, folks.

Kristi

carry over from last blog-will the high wind warning extend eastward or just for the metro area?

Thanks team for all your hard work today!  I know us bloggers are keeping things busy for the KSHB web servers.

Kristi

Brett- can you see the small development on ESP in LV county-East through the NW loop of 435- is that the warm  front or an outflow boundary boundary?

Nice update as well...I hate soaps....LOL

Now that white spot of extreme weather has moved into western Bates County.

Kristi

What about the small storms forming to the north of the complex over platte and moving into clay counties.  Why did those form?

I bet Butler is going to get some extreme weather conditions here real soon.  If there are any lurkers from there, please stay safe!

Kristi

it looks to me there is development in the northland...

Does that storm have rotation on it Kristi?.... Not trying to scare anyone.  I'm a weather newb trying to learn what radar looks like..

I really want to know what is being talked about for tonight. I see that Thursday is of intrest but I think we are more interested in todays possibilites.  **** Tonight as warm front pushes in more thunderstorms could form into another MCS.  Brett

wow, lots of hail in drexel, not huge, bout dime sized, it got really windy for a minute or two. now just light rain and lightning. No damage that i can see, i havent gone outside yet.

Another storm report, 24 highway in Jefferson County is closed due to highwater from just east of Perry to just west of Midland Junction.  Lots of tree and power line damage, several structure damages due to lightening and winds all across the county. *** Thanks, we are getting a ton of damage reports today.  Brett

Big lightning at 169 and Barry just lit up my fully lit apartment!

Wow...what a storm.  We were at my daughter's gymnastics class in Olathe when the lights went out.  I was amazed that none of the kids freaked out at all!  

Hard to believe but I've only got .5" at 151st and Pflumm

Perry KS 2.25" of rain.

The one in Bates County, Lily?

adogg,
Glad you are safe and that things seem to be OK in your immediate vicinity.

Kristi

All is calm here in Paola, we have dodged another severe weather bullet.  I got nervous when the skies turned very dark grey so I took all 3 dogs to the bathroom (only place without windows).  I kept listening to the weather radio but just didn't think we were really going to get any significant hail.  Growing up in north central kansas, and weathering many hail storms, I remember the skies turning green when it was going to hail.  No green skies here and no hail in Paola.  We did get some heavy rain briefly and a little wind but I doubt it ever got over 30 mph.  I hate rain but I'll take it over hail any day.  I hope the storms are over for today.

Yes kristi

JP - more likely than not, what you will see is outflow boundaries.  The best way to see the warm front in my opinion is watching the surface obs over a broader area.

Lillyana - on the same topic, you ask why these other storms formed...storms love to form on outflow boundaries, and as this MCS continues to collapse, boundaries are being thrown out away from the storm.

Radar/sat, and surface obs are the best tools right now.

To me it looks like it has a hook on it... but I"m not good with storms on the radar yet.

Thanks kristi! Now after the rain lets up I will have to go net thousands of leaves off my pool.

where does your daughter take class.  my daughter is in a class also in olathe.

The storm in Bates County is showing possible rotation.  Bates County is to our south and the storm is moving away from us but is heading into an area that I am very familiar with.

Kristi

Any more reports of high wind?

DPannell I'm in Osawatomie & we got hammered!  My brother lives in Paola & he said they didn't get anything.

But here we have hail all over the ground, looks like snow.   We had a huge branch of a tree in our backyard split & fall between us & our neighbor's houses.   When it hit I thought for sure it was a tornado, the whole house shuddered!

The road out front had water running down it up to the curb it looked like a small river.  Reminded me a bit too much of last year's flooding down here.

Then there was/is this weird fog.  I'm thinking it must be from the hail, but it looked freaky.

I got some pics I'll try to get more, but I'm just happy none of us were hurt.  It was pretty hairy there for a while!

Talking to some friends in Osawatomie that took a pretty good hit from the hail and wind.  Downed power lines, ruined siding and a few broken windows at their house.
Truly we were quite fortunate here in Paola.

Just about lost my pool cover. I did lose a good size limb out of one of my shade trees-several inches in diameter(if I had to guess I'd say 3-5"). Looks like less than a quarter inch of rain.

Kristi, egg size hail in Butler.....bro in law is in Butler.  Jim in Clinton

Chances of more storms ?????????

Here in drexel we had 70 mph winds

Thanks Scott!

.38 inches at 151st and Mur-Len in Olathe.

Good grief, no shortage of moisture to work with this week...  77 degree dewpoints being recorded in NE Oklahoma.

Looking at the surface obs, its hard to find a clear line on the warm front..the MCS screwed up  the boundary a bit...but would say it is still just south of KC and tapering further south further east.

Best way to find it is starting near the surface low and working east through Central KS..then you can kinda draw it out along and just south of where the complex is..

Atleast..that is what I think...

Glad you are safe, Chase!

Yikes, Jim!  I have been watching that storm around Butler.  Yikes again!

Kristi

Looks like the big complex in bates county is so big it is going to the bathroom on the counties below it on radar!! LOL  Jim in Clinton

Hi all, I ran home at lunch to check on my little old dog, she's terrified of thunder.   Poor thing was hiding and shaking under the table.   Are we going to have any more storms this afternoon?  
Barely .10" of rain in the gauge out there (by the stadiums).
Thanks!

I hope that my friends have not left for the lake yet.

Kristi

We had quite the storm roll through Gardner, KS a while ago.  Very strong winds and rain that fell in every direction possible!  According the rain gauge, we got 1.8 inches in the short amount of time that it rained.  Saw a few cars get stuck in flooded streets-needless to say, no one should ever drive through streets when they look like they did!  Luckily the two cars that got stuck were able to help each other out.  Should we expect more later and if so, when?  

My parents live in Butler.  They said it's black, wind is high and rain is falling so hard you can't see in front of you.  

Kristi - you mentioned possible rotation?

Is anybody else's Weather Channel gone hay wire?  We have TWC here at work and the warnings are running on the bottom of the screen, but don't have anything but a bunch of green flashing outside of that.

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I'm in Wisconsin and TWC is all green too.  So it must be all over the place:)

Jeremy

Jim,
I am concerned for SW Henry and St. Clair Counties.  That storm is just nasty. :(  I hope that my friends have not left for the lake yet.

Kristi

Quiet in Gladstone, had very little wind and one big pop of thunder this morning and light rain is all, it appears everyone else has had quite a storm from reading the blogs.

Gary, we got .43" of rain here at Jhonson County Executive Airport! During the middle of the t-storm I was about to take a picture and right before I pressed the button, lighnening struck a tree in my backyard! But it only singed and the ashes already have been blown or washed off!

OK, lost a limb that was 5" in diameter and several more around 2-3" out of my cottonwood. I  am hoping this is it for severe storms for the night!

Rainfall total... drumroll plz ..............   .17 inches at 65th & State Avenue

Had quite a bit of thunder when it moved thru, but nothing serious at all, even the "high wind" was a kitten.

South of Butler...  It looks like it is on the Bates-Vernon County line.  One of the radars is showing possible rotation.  No tornado warnings have been issued.  I hope that your parents are safe!

Kristi

Hey Kristi, when the storm moved thru my area, I saw a wall cloud for, rapidly then a minture late it was gone but you coulds see the clouds rotating very esily!

The lake would be beautiful right now.  Watching the extremely heavy rains rolling across the lake is amazing.  As long as I have a basement to cower in and watch from LOL.

Left to TWC, weather would simply be conveyed as flashing green, yellow, and red colors 30 seconds an hour with the rest of the time filled with "Storm Stories" and commercials...

Wait..it has already happened!

LOL - no, I am not a cynic.

It would not be surprising if there were quick spin ups like what happened on May 2nd.  In fact, there was a tornado reported in Jefferson County KS earlier.  The storms are moving at a very fast rate of speed.

Kristi

Wind warning CANCELLED for the metro

One of the neighbors has a below ground shelter we can go to if bad weather hits down there.

Kristi

Thanks Kristi, it was pretty scary there for a bit.

Been out taking pics will try to send some in.  What a wild day!  Hope tonight is no where near as wild!

High Wind Warning cancelled...

Tornado Warning for that cell in SE Bates County.  That will be SE of Butler.  It also includes St. Clair and Cedar Counties.

Kristi

Only .19 in the guage here in Lee's Summit. The cell that slid off to our west (now south) was one of the most impressive cells I have ever seen..."White" in a thunderstorm! WOW!!

Baseball size hail was reported n Rich Hill and wind damage to structures in other areas of Bates County.

Kristi

tornado warning!  Bates vernon

Scott do you have any comments on storms for later today???

Wow.... I figured that thing had been wanting to spin something up when it was southwest of Bates county.  I saved the radar image to my PC as well.

kcwxguy--yeah pretty much!! I just have it on since nobody is covering the wx right now and its the closest I can get! But its more background noise than anything. I have   2 web browser windows open with 4 tabs on each!

Storm maxed on Vil.

or whatever you call it heh.

Mike,
Have six tabs opened. LOL  I have been tracking these storms since my weather radio woke me up for the Severe T-storm Watch before 8 AM.

Kristi

That storm is heading into El Dorado Springs MO.

Kristi

Chase,
I'm anxious to see those pictures.  I hope you did not have too much damage and that everyone is ok.  It will be a long time before people in Osawatomie don't shudder everytime it rains.  I hated rain before the floods and I hate it even more now.  I can't wait to live in Yuma, AZ when I retire.  I chose it specifically because it has the least amount of rainfall per year and because of the record heat...I love highs in the 100s with no humidity.  Good luck in Osawatomie I hope the storms are over for you all for a long time!

Once again only moderate rain earlier here, but we did have some pretty impressive Mammatus clouds from the storms to our south.  Looks like mother nature is continuing her wild streak.   As for TWC, I guess they were not kidding when they said they were going "green" LOL!!!!
Those were Huge cells by the way.

Kane – no..not many thoughts on later on today.  This is very much a nowcasting scenario with the outflow boundaries.  

Odd that I would be short on words, huh?

Kristi/Shawnee Mike, you both are working too hard with that many tabs open…LOL.  I guess I have gotten lazy normally only checking radar with its associated modes and the SPC site for meso discussions/warnings/watches/storm reports.  

Here soon, I will have all that integrated on my site so that I can go to one place to get all I need to track and forecast storms.  I am experimenting more and more with the NWS RSS feeds and other NOAA RSS feeds.

Now, when it comes to mid term forecasting from 6 hrs to 3 days, yeah…I seem to chew up many different tabs as I like to have a window open for each level of the atmosphere 300/500/700/850/950 and the surface maps along with two or three models and my favorite three composites to boot.

LOL.

On the current track the storm near El Dorado Springs MO right now will be very close to the Springfield MO area between 3:15 PM and 3:45 PM... conditions in Springfield MO right now - Temperature 75 Dewpoint 70 WINDS--- Southeast at 9 MPH.

I am out of here for awhile.  I have spent a lot of time here today.

Catch you all later!

Kristi

Good call Kristi! :)

I just see some people saying that there is a chance I geuss. The warm fromt didn't move through so I thought that storms may from later today. Or if that was a possibility.

so what can we expect for the afternoon and overnight and tommrrw. we still have a slight risk.

I know that all these little boundaries floating around will make forecasting difficult for later today but........just for giggles take a look at tonights 00 sounding for Chanute, KS.   WOW!

http://beta.wxcaster.com/cgi-bin/parse_skewt_trace.cgi?model=NAM&fcsthr=012&STATIONID=kcnu

Later,
Mike in Ottawa

Brett/Gary - you can clock Kristi and I out at 2PM.  

The blog is yours now.  LOL

StormWyndd -- I feel for your dog!  One of our three is like that - he has to be piled under several heavy quilts withjust his nose out to breathe - and he just shakes and quivers.  Usually, for HOURS after a storm is over he won't go out.  I feel sad for him!

Kristi - thank you for being so calm all the time!  It DOES help.  If I'm home, I like storms, if they aren't too bad.  I know everyone on the blog gets way excited for them -- but sometimes just for a plain jane like me away from home, the details are scary!  You seem to put it all more into perspective I think.  So thank you!

And thank all the rest of you for your help and info!

Also, is there a good chance that they will be severe?

I went driving around drexel, some tree damage, lots of water on the road.

bgmike - that is a daunting hodograph.

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NW Lawrence received 2.11" in 65 minutes.  Highest wind gust obesrved was 43 mph.  Some small hail accompanied the second severe cell around 11:45 AM.  Power was lost for a few minutes and some minor street flooding.  Thanks to the team for keeping us appraised with the weather!

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Thanks for the rain total!  If everyone can send in some rain totals I'm sure Gary will pass some along later today.  Thank you to those who already have!

Jeremy

.3" of an inch in my rain gauge

Laura in Raytown

Drexel rain total- 1.2 inches in 15-20 minutes

I sent in a few pics.  DPannell I hear ya!  After that flood water got within 2 houses of us last year I was ready to move far, far away.

It's still a mess over here with the empty/abandonded houses & such from the flood.  Hoping & praying this summer won't be like last summer.

Hello, here in Se Lee's summit .13 thx, kristy

I am back for a bit. LOL  I am still watching that cell down in Cedar County heading into Polk County while I do other things.

We only got .15 here at my house in south Raytown.  We had occasional lightning and thunder.

Tyler,
You have been quiet today!  I know all the severe weather is way to your south and west tho.

All,
It looks quiet around the metro here for awhile.  Enjoy your afternoon and evening. :)  I will wait to comment about Thursday's weather on Thursday (when I give my prediction).

Kristi

Well I geuss there will be nothing for this after noon. I am not getting any information.

Thursday's system seems to have sped up a bit and appears to be slightly less ominous as it had a couple of days ago.  From what I can tell, as of right now, it looks like we should at least have a pretty strong squall line overnight into friday morning though.  Anyone else have thoughts on Thursday/Friday?  

Sounds like that storm that gave me golfball size hail got stronger the further east it went...with baseball size hail. Gary got my pictures...of course it will not be as impressive as those who got baseball size. When that large Miami Co cell went through the back edge clipped us and man were those clouds creepy. It got really windy too. Off to a T-ball game now...it is in Moran KS and I believe they were dry all day. Have a good evening.

I do have a question though for anyone who wants to answer. My hubby and I are leaving tomorrow am at 4am to head to Six Flags St Louis...for a JH Field Trip, does anyone know what the weather over their will be like.
Thanks
Monica
Pleasanton, KS

Well, as usual, it seems like its all or nothing and nothing or very little for most of the area. The heavy rain tracked West to SouthWest to South of the Metro area. Its still amazing with all the rain around for the past several weeks, that KCI was below normal for the month of May and the same pattern seems to be continuing.

Gary/Brett is there any chance of rain later today? Could it be severe? If so, what time are we looking at?

does anyone know is there more rain expected tonight? tomorrow?  thx, kristy

hey that was my question kristy. lol

.19 here in downtown Lee's Summit

Brian

1.32" of Liquid Sunshine in my part of SW Lawrence.

Bob

Kane, you can go to the main weather page to help answer your question...

Note for today there is a 50% chance of rain with the graphic of a cloud with a peek of sun showing through...

Is that not enough?

If you want the breaking weather news on the main page, you can see it under the heading of "Urgent Weather Message" that affected the metro several hours ago.

Hang in there...  ;-)

In downtown Gardner we had lots of lightning, flooding rains, a little bit of small hail, and some gusty winds.  It was very dark outside and the heavy rain lasted about an hour.  The water was deep enough to get inside some cars parked in a low area of the parking lot near my location, and water on Hwy 56/Main Street was up over the curbs (as the water receded, you could see where the "waves" deposited debris several feet back from the curb).  I watched cars driving by and very few slowed down--didn't see any wrecks, but a couple of vehicles looked like they were close to losing control.  You should never drive that fast through water that deep.

Now it's sunny and breezy, so things are starting to dry up quickly.

Those storms over northern Missouri are starting to fire.  But they will stay away from KC and St. Joe.  They are moving SE.

Kristi

I thought you were leaving us Kristi?  Putting in some OT?  LOL

0.20 inches in Grain Valley, MO

We are supposed to be having a swim party at 5:30 tonight but can reschedule it if we need to.  What are the chances for storms around that time?

I ran home at lunch time to check on my puppy (and to make sure he hadn't torn anything up in the midst of the storms!) At 87th & Antioch in Overland Park, we had approx. .4 of rain. Unknown if we had hail; I don't recall seeing any where I work in Olathe, and that's only 7 miles south of where I live, but 7 miles can be a long way in meteoroligical terms!

I did speak to my husband who was traveling from Rich Hill, Missouri, to Ft. Scott, Kansas, and he said that he got hailed on twice, and his truck (a Ford with a box on the back of it) probably has dents in it. But, when he got to Ft. Scott about 40 minutes ago, the sun was coming out!

I know there are some TWC bashers out there, but the station really doesn't do a bad job.  It's kind of like the Microsoft bashers or the "Fox news is the only balanced news station" sayers.  Why do do most say those things?  Because somebody else said it.  Kind of like the "John Kerry is waffler" saying in 2004.  I saw interviews with tons of people who were quoted as saying it.  When they were asked for a specific instance, not one could come up with an example.
 TWC does a pretty good job.  However, it has to do things on a national level, not a local level.  It uses one weather station in a city, not multiple stations.  It can't compare with the local weather stations on a local level.  If you asked the local stations to do the same thing on an overall national level, they couldn't compete either.
 So rather than join the "bash TWC because somebody else said it" groupies, let's get back to the weather here.
 

G-Man: Admittedly, its out of our area...but why is there no dryline storm risk today?

72 dewpoint in Hays, 67 in Garden City, 27 in Amarillo, 34 in Lubbock. You'd think that distinct of a dryline would be quite a storm initiator. Is there no jet stream energy? What's the deal?

.10 inch at Hillsdale Lake from the first bit of of rain, then a whopping 2.15 inches more in about 45 minutes from the big cell for a total of 2.25".  Only a few dime size hail pellets and no more than 40 mph wind.

I know Kristi it has been pretty dull over here! lol. But softball size hail is just sick. Plus I have just been reading your updates, you made a good call with the tornado warning ;)

I know Kristi it has been pretty dull over here! lol. But softball size hail is just sick. Plus I have just been reading your updates, you made a good call with the tornado warning ;)

Here is something you don't see everyday...

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satellite/displaySat.php?region=ICT&itype=vis&size=large&endDate=20080602&endTime=-1&duration=0

Check out the outflow boundaries/[gravity waves?] coming out of the MCS in northern MO.

Matt P - you crack me up.  I will leave the argument as stated, but seems counter intuitive to have faith and interest in a presentation of a national view when most people seem to be most interested in weather in their backyard...

LOL

Matt,
Any serious weather enthusiast knows that TWC cannot be relied upon.  TWC used to have great coverage.  But I think that people got tired of too many Storm Stories and When Weather Changed History whennever there is/was severe weather breaking out.  I rarely watch TWC because it is not dependable.  Besides I have satellite TV and TWC is not great for that.  If you like it, fine.  But there are many people who don't.  No one was bashing... just wondering what was going on with the station when all the severe weather was going on.

Tyler,
Watch that area of storms over north-central MO...  You could possibly get in on the action.  Did you see the hail pics on WIBW.com?  They were incredible!

Did you all see the pic of the hail in Pleasanton KS?  Unreal!  I am assuming Monica took that pic.  

Kristi

Kristi I feel the same way about TWC!! It is nothing these days besides storm stories, and weather in Europe. Or all of this stuff about health and allergies. Not any interest to me. lol

Kristi I feel the same way about TWC!! It is nothing these days besides storm stories, and weather in Europe. Or all of this stuff about health and allergies. Not any interest to me. lol

We have .35" in OP.....99th & Antioch...The tomatoes & peppers love it!!

Butler had 2.25 inches of rain in about 20 minutes.  No power.  The tree tops in my parents yard are gone.  Took about 30 minutes with a chain saw to make a path up the driveway.  These trees are extremely old - very large.  Dad said it turned black but they only had pea size hail at their house.

Just for grins, I did force myself to weather.com, and found the update for Overland Park to be nearly an hour and a half ago.

Anyway, it likely is fine for the average consumer.  They seem to be doing well as a company and likely put in enough to satisfy the majoritiy of their consumers.

Right Tyler

Keep an eye out for those storms.  They may be coming thru Moberly.  Or are you in Knob Noster today?

c,
So sorry to hear about your parents' tree damage. :(  

Kristi

Why is every year unique if you accept the premise that the LRC is itself defined by recurring patterns?----QUESTION FROM KCWXGUY'S BLOG and here's my answer.
FIRST ONE HAS TO ACCEPT THE PREMISE OF THE LRC, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT ACCURATE FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS.  Second, every year is obviously unique.  There is no year in recorded history where every day with temps and precip perfectly matched.  There are years with similar trends and a trained person with a lot of time, can compare and come up with the same results as the LRC tries to do.  The LRC definately has the upper hand in setting a trend.  LR forecasters don't particularly care about the day to day.  It's more like will it be a wet summer, etc.
On Lezaks's blog, the LRC doesn't seem as important to blogger with the other 9 months of the year and Gary gets slammed.
It's my suggestion is the LRC is correct if used as a general trend and that general trend has been correct.  It's my contention that if it snowed, rained, or stormed on a particular day predicted by the Action Team is bordering on mere coincedence associated with the general trend.
By the way, the first crest of the MO River happened today...expect this to be the first of several... Based on the trend of 1993.

.85 inches here in west central Lawrence.

   Scott, if I want I to see a local radar of storms back east where my mother lives, I won't see it locally.  However, I will see it if I look at weather.com or TWC. "Forced to weather.com"?  How much force did it take?  LOL! Now if it's an hour and a half old, I'm not sure how you came up with that.  It either gets its reports from Johnson County Airport or KCI.  But you did back up my point.  TWC is not a great place for local, but much better on the national scene.  It doesn't have the capability to really dig in at the local level.  
  Simplykristi, some of the Storms Stories were good, but they're mostly repeats.  When Weather Changed History could also be good, if it wasn't repeated so often.  I have travelled back and forth to the northeast and Chicago.  If I'm going to travel, I'd rather depend on TWC rather than the locals.  I also have satellite.  However, the folks who say they don't trust the local forecast, will also quote the NWS.  That's where TWC gets it local forecasts.  So either both are correct or both are wrong.
 My point was not so much whether TWC was accurate, but a lot of people catch a buzz-phrase about something and run with it, completely oblivious to the facts.  It's like I said about "Fox news -- fair and balanced".  I know so many people who quote that, but write off the Rupert Murdoch video about where he admitted his network tried to "shape the war (yes, his exact words)".  So if people are going to bash TWC, they should not quote NWS at all because they're contradicting themselves.
   
 
 
 

.40"  323rd & hwy 7  between Garden City and Creighton.     We had a lightning bolt hit a tree in the back yard an hour before the main storm.  Just a few sprinkles coming down and rolling thunder in the distance, no lightning close enough to be visible----then BANG!!!

Matt,  Sometimes TWC reminds me of the old MTV days when they actually showed music videos.  I get most annoyed when TWC is showing a Storm Story Clip while people are getting killed in OK---and particularly annoyed when this season is setting the record for tornadoes and severe weather and I find myself sitting here watching old storm stories....

Ok I watch TWC at times. None of the local stations show weather reports in places I want to see it. I keep tabs on several places and most local stations do not recognize there is anything west of Denver. Yes it is broad based and they add those stories to draw in viewers that want more than just a weather update every few minutes. However, they show pictures of the storms aftermath ona larger level than local stations have time to do.
It is a business, after all, and they have to widen their appeal to gain viewers. No one expects their forecasts for your local area to be explicit and for severe weather it is common sense to go local.

I still likeTWC for live hurricane and giga-sized nor'easter blizzards, but now they have plenty of competition. Hard to say who's winning... but between cable news channels (which are really coming to the table with live weather stories the last few years), the internet, live streaming, etc. it wouldn't surprise me if TWC viewership numbers are way down from the past.