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THUNDERSTORMS ARE REFIRING ON THE RETREATED DRYLINE!!! IN CENTRAL KANSAS

THUNDERSTORMS ARE REFIRING ON THE RETREATED DRYLINE!!! IN CENTRAL KANSAS

NEW MESO OUT FOR THE METRO!!!

a new blog post yeah!!!!!!

MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 1234
  NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
  0438 PM CDT THU JUN 05 2008
 
  AREAS AFFECTED...ERN KS...NWRN MO
 
  CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY
 
  VALID 052138Z - 052215Z
 
  A NEW TORNADO WATCH WILL BE ISSUED SHORTLY E OF WW 462 INTO ERN KS
  AND NWRN MO.
 
  LEADING CONVECTIVE LINE HAS BEGUN TO CONSOLIDATE AND ACCELERATE NEWD
  FROM HARVEY TO CLAY COUNTY KS. ATTENDANT THREATS FOR DAMAGING WINDS
  /POSSIBLY EXTREME/ AND EMBEDDED TORNADOES WILL CONTINUE /AS
  DESCRIBED IN MCD 1233/.

FOOD you and I are smart. the others are just like sheep they keep feeding off each others panic.

I have been so busy today so I have had hardly any time to comment. If they do issue a tornado watch, which they will, I wonder if it will be a PDS tornado watch, because we are in a moderate risk, and in a 15% chance of tornadoes, like areas out west in central KS with the same tornado threat. Also, something I have noticed, is that this tornado watch will be issued primarily for the thunderstorms that will fire up ahead of the line of storms that will come in later. Those appear to be by themselves, so I would think that those have just as high of a tornado threat if not higher than the line later tonight. I bet that it will expire after the second line, which appears to be primarily damaging winds, but also some tornadoes.

well, i guess something is about to happen... this could be really scary

Jeremy - I posted this to the old site but in case you aren't monitoring it.

www.severestudios.com/livechase then click on Chris Strahan's live feed.

not going to comment, but not nice to say

watching chris rice he is by the tornados and clay center KS, crazy he seems close and keeps having to get out of they way.

Tornado Watch for the metro until midnight.

Kristi, you were off by just a bit.  They just issued the tornado watch for our area.

tornado watch just issued.

Dude massive thunderstorms firing in Oklahoma they are huge and the line keeps growing into each other while new storms fire south its awesome

ya know what I tried to appologize for my behavior right now but nobody will even ACKNOLEDGE that I exist right now so I'll say anything that won't get me banned from the blog.

I said no later than 7.  I was not off. :)

Kristi

C in Raymore -- Where is the feed you are watching?  I've been watching strahan and don't know where Rice's site is.

Only thing I'm concerned about is that with 25-35 MPH surface winds in place and Mean Storm Motion of 50 to 60 MPH... well just do the math - wouldn't be hard to get some pretty good gusts going out of this line - even if it does not hold together, the gust front could pack a punch.

TORNADO WATCH # 466 TILL MIDNITE!

so you guys go ahead and feed off each others panic. I'm not scared one bit because I know better. but I'll keep throwing out valuable information cuz I happen to like this blog but nobody has any respect for me even when I was trying to appologize and put my self out there and say I was sorry.

Sorry, Kristi...hope I didn't offend.

Will it fall apart ?

Hail,
I saw your appology but since I didn't see a problem with your language, and since work keeps me working, I didn't respond.  Thanks for stepping up and letting us know what's going on.
Jason

same site emcat, just find chris rice on the active web cams

for those concerned this is NOT a PDS tornado watch I'll post probabilities...

Jonathon,
    I acknowledge you are here. I am sure that everyone will accept your apology.

crap I appologize guys... this IS a PDS it just updated... Hold on.

OK, my weather radio is not showing the tornado watch- wonder why?

What do you all think...if we get winds from 60 - 90 mph, will the tornado alarms go off in your neighborhood just so you can take cover from those winds?

Jonathan, this IS a PDS watch.

Jonathan,
I have been trying to be a voice of reason today.

Kristi

Right on!! new blog!!

Hail...I think you're just trying to keep the bloggers on their toes:)

I just read on SPC that it IS a PDS.....

Hail, they just updated, It is indeed a PDS watch now. PDS Watch 466 until midnight.

I know Roberto you've always been a pal to me..

okay Probs are...


Prob of 2 or more tornadoes 90%
prob of 1 or more Ef2 to ef 5 tornadoes is 60 percent..
I have seen worse but yes it is serious

This is a PDS Johnathan

No prob emcat.

Kristi

hail- when you apologized it was to someone so i didnt say anything, most people dont apologize for things so that is very good thing to do. sorry you are not able to find a job, one will come dont worry. i just wouldnt say people are feeding off each others panic, maybe try to come off a little nicer sometimes, like you said yesterday it might rub people the wrong way. keep up with your analysis though, we enjoy hearing what everyone has to say!

Wow, lots of posts I didn't see! Don't mean to harp on you Johnathan, just didn't see the other posts! I even refreshed like 4 times. Oh well, I think we know now!

David

hail your right not the worst but i havent seen one like that in june. should be an interesting tonight. i am still thinking high winds.

haha now we all know it is a PDS!!

OK.  I am weather-terminology deficient...What is a PDS tornado watch?

I just try to do the right thing in all situations and not everyone appreciates it. when i try and calm people down people criticize me. so i'm just gonna say what I want and not care about people any more cuz obviously I have no control. I can tell you this I won't get banned from this blog. even though I'm sure now a lot of people hate me now. but that's okay. a lot of people don't use logic or reason. they just panic first and you can't reason with those people. so I'm just going to give out information from now on.

Jonathon,

I guess I missed a reason for an apology, so we are cool!!!

And I am still sticking to my time frame of the action hitting closer to 8pm... I will actually pull it back to 9pm... Now that I catch up.

Now the way I took it from Gary, he was saying that our biggest threat was not tornados....is that still the same?  Sorry guys I am kinda freaking now...

C in Raymore,
I appologized To EVERYBODY if I was to come off rude

Kick the tires and light the fires. Everyone batten down the hatches.

PDS tornado watch? I thought we were just supposed to get some gusty winds and hail?

I am still thinking a wind even later.

Kristi

I am still thinking a wind event later.

Kristi

Jeremy - Don't know if you saw C in Raymore's note about Chris Rice's coverage. Not sure which Chris you were wanting.

Thanks, C in Raymore!

******************

If someone could email me the link and Chris's full name that would be great!  Lots of blog comments...

Jeremy

well we're not getting any sun today... those anvils are moving in really fast.

I always have a difficult time reigning in my exitement/anxiety at times like these(especially around my four children)...and I'm sure that most realize that whether the watch is PDS or not, for any given area(s) there are always exceptions...like the Picher tornado--they were under a regular tornado watch at the time, and in the slight risk portion of the outlook for that day.

Jonathan,
Relax. :)  Everyone is cool with you. :)  Your apology has been accepted by many people whether or not they post it. :)

Kristi

thanks bones I appreciate it.

Are we sure this thing isn't just going to die down and give us some heavy rain, or miss us completely?  : ) Please?

Okay, so if this does hit us, the weather teams says between 10p-2a, is this thing going to last a long time?   I mean, say it arrives at 10, should it move through and be done, or are we going to have to worry about a four hour event?

Hi, just got home and trying to get up to speed.  Tried to keep an eye on the blog, but work kept me occupied.
Got it on the watch til midnight.  Hoping that since we're at the back edge of the watch, maybe the strength of the storms will deflate a little.  
Good, Jeremy is on in a couple minutes!  

I don't quite understand how they determine a PDS , A tornado watch in and of itself means there could be a dangerous situation, does a PDS just mean the storms are apt to be of a stronger level (F3 or stronger), just confused on what triggers the PDS rating

Ok, I'm in Johnson county Missouri and we aren't in the watch so I guess we might avoid the worst.

jonathan- meant to say, i thought you were apologizing to rdub i think, i am sorry if i didnt say that in my post. like i said it is very big of a person to apologize and i think it i was nice of you. i am scanning post, not reading fully. i dont think anyone hates you at all, you give good information.

no prob emcat

   
angvic00 said:

Particularly Dangerous Situation

Is the SPC overdoing it on the PDS tornado watch since the threat of tornados is low?

wow this blog in particular acculmilated comments fast. I am thinking by 7, 8 at the latest that the rest of the viewing area will be under a watch. probably tornado

Emmysmom,
The storms will move thru at a rapid rate of speed.

Kristi

A PDS Tornado Watch is issued when they think a higher number of tornadoes than normal is likely and they also expect strong tornadoes greater than EF3.

Kristi:

I don't know if I should thank you for the swift radar, it is an amazing tool for an amateur I may not get work done for a while.:) :)  The plotting and mapping of storms, the reports, is outstanding!!

Ok I am scared now...

Hail,

I know for myself, I didn't have any reason to need an apology, so I didn't respond.  I understand wanting someone to acknowledge your apology, but I have to be honest with you- I think complaining about not getting an apology is futile.  My concern for today is the weather, the implications of today's storms, and my family's safety, not whether or not I made sure to ackowledge your apology.  Very rarely do bloggers actually respond to my posts (unless directed at a specific individual), but I understand that going in.  Thanks for the apology, and I hope things get better for you.  Please don't take things so personally.

Will

thanks C. I appreciate it...I'm just freakin mentally ill that's the bottom line. so just don't pay attention to me.

Since the storms are moving fast, does that mean by the daylight friday morning we should be clear of rain, or will there be a secondary batch of rain?

shoedog,
I know.  I think that it is a great little tool myself.  Thank bones for the link to the software. :)

Kristi

Emma,

Its not going to miss us by any means! How every! If things continue to evlove the way they have today kristi will be right on (and I really hope she is!!) with just a wind event as apposed to tornadic weather.

This cloud deck has held and holding the "big" afternoon heat down wich is a good thing, it still can get nasty though...

Jeremy is on in just a sec for those who aren't paying attention.

JEREMY IS ON NOW!

jeremy is on!

becky, dont be worried. just go with the fam over to your sisters. you should be okay and safe

Bones thanks for the Swift Link, I appreciate everyones blogs and explanations.  I notice that the Kansas City radar is now catching the storms on the west edge of their reflexivity radar

See This is why They should have went back to the High risk that they posted this morning. Its lineing up like the earlier High risk area.

My Metal Gazebo is down in the backyard. It will probabily act like a Bag in the wind since the top is still on it.

No reason for fear yet bewild.

In fact I think the cell's will weaken as they blow in, but thats just me...

Becky and all who are nervous,
Definitely watch the team, listen to NOAA weather radio, and watch this blog.  All these things will help you prepare for what is going to possibly come later.  It will be after 10 before anything starts to happen around KC.  Just relax and we will get you thru this. :)

Remember to breathe in and out. :)

Kristi

one question, once this line goes through, say the 10 to midnight window, will it be over for tonight?

Umm.. Just steped outside... Starting to get a little breeze here in LIberty...

funny we had a one minute rain shower with big drops on the west side of leavenworth.

Perhaps it will be just a straight line wind event, although I fail to see how potential winds of over 90mph are any consolation.  However, when we're in a PDS Tornado Watch it seems ill advised to continue discounting the potential of tornados.  Remember May 1st/2nd when we were just in a "regular" tornado watch?  It was a punishing wind event that spun up an EF2 and EF3 tornado, of which I got to take part.  Anyway, on the afternoon of Friday, May 2nd I was going to post the following on the blog, but never did.  He still resides on my hard drive so now you can all read it and think a bit when you say it's "just going to be a wind event".  To wit:



I freely admit I've always been one to wish for the worst in weather.  Much as Chfs327 posted once, it excites me, and I feel more alive.  I get chills every time the weather radio goes off announcing a tornado watch, and when there's a warning issued for my county, I'm bouncing off the walls with excitement.  Before Thursday night, I was truly unaware of what it's like to be in what I wanted to see so bad, and I also placed explicit trust in the NWS to issue a tornado warning prior to a tornado.  I can't blame the NWS because the fact is the science of tornado prediction isn't exact, events sometimes change quicker than any warning system can be deployed.

I'd been following predictions all day Thursday and watched radar late Thursday night as the squall line formed.  It was the most impressive line I've ever seen as it closed in on the metro.  In the hour leading up to its arrival I sat on the deck watching lightning while listening to Jeremy on the television.  I got just enough rain that I went inside and looked out my south and west facing windows in the back bedroom.  With the lightning I could see what appeared to be a wall of rain and wind getting close.  In hindsight, what I may have been looking at was the Brooke Ridge tornado near the point where it "dissapated", a mere half mile southwest of my house.  I walked back to the deck, which faces north, and a couple minutes later the power flickers and the wall of rain and wind hit.   My three year old house groans a bit and the fiance jumps off the couch, where she had been sleeping waiting for her dorky husband to be, to see the storms arrive.

The wind surged hard, the rain hitting the windows was deafening, then the power throughout the entire subdivision went out.  I have battery back up on my computer and was getting ready to post to the blog from my room that has both south and west facing windows.  As I started to type the computer monitor, windows, and chair I'm sitting in start vibrating.  I leave the room immediately and walk to the living room where my fiance is searching for a flashlight.  It's difficult to visualize with words, but at this point the dark of night actually gets shades darker, looking out the windows displays constant flashes of aquamarine lightning but absolutely nothing else.  I hear what can be best be described as the forceful increase of wind speed against my house.  It was far more like the sound created by sucking air through a straw than a locomotive.  As the house can be felt moving under our feet, there is a very distinct drop in pressure, which my fiance and I both comment on.  That sensation alone is something I will never forget.  As suddently as it came, it fades, and we're left with just rain and more normal severe storm conditions.  I'm speculating the tornado had not yet "dissapated" but was off the ground enough that it caused only minor damage in my neighborhood which lies a mile northwest of Brooke Ridge.

I've learned the following things from this incident.  Looking at houses close to us, we're lucky to be missing only a handful of shingles, and to have other people's insulation stuck to the side of our house.  The NWS isn't infallible and sometimes doesn't issue the correct warning.  My disaster plan should at least include a flashlight close at hand.  LOL.  Be careful for what you wish, you might get it.  When a storm arrives in a fashion more intense than you've ever experienced before, shakes the house, and presents a significant pressure drop, you should be in the basement and not standing in the living room talking with your fiance about how freaking cool it is!   ~ Dave

Turd.
I think we are appropriately placed in the moderate risk. it's not uncommon for pds's to be issued in mdt risk areas

Every one is welcome for the Swift link! Some one said its a good ameture tool? Can you believe chasers actually use it in the field!!

We're coming back East on I-70 just past SLN now.  We got some cool footage, but no funnels.  I think Central KS is turning out to be a bust.

We're going to set up near Ft. Riley and see what happens, then head back to KC.

I'll upload what we got later tonight.

Probably Renee...  There could be some steady rain behind it for a bit.  But once the big line moves thru, that should end the severe weather threat.

Kristi

Thanks shoedog and Hail on the PDS info.  Sounds serious.

Braysmama: The threat of tornadoes is 15% within 25 miles of a mpint, which is significant, not low. That risk is high enough to prompt a moderate risk. So there is some need to be cautious, as in just keeping your weather radio on. And Jonathon, those watch probabilities seem really high for tonight! It will be an extremely long night! And, I think everyone should listen to Kristi! Everyone should, epecially keep their weather radio on, or, if they don't have one, by one now! And, as Kristi said, no one should panic, and everyone should just stay calm!

Radar indicated tornado north of Herrington KS in Morse County

Is it me or do these storms like to pop up on Thursday nights?  That storm in May w/the bow echo was Thursday night into Friday morning.  My DH only comes home from his job assignment every other Thursday.  He's starting to think the weather here is like this all the time;0)

Wondering if I should take my family somewhere that has a safer place to be then my house with no basement and only a crawlspace.  I was at work on Tuesday night when all that lovely weather warranted two episodes  of sirens going off and we were moved to a safe area within the store along with customers.

AACCKK!  One of the "non-believers" in my family must've turned off my weather radio!!  No wonder it wasn't working.  It's turned back on now but the orange watch light is not lit so still not sure if it's working properly or not...

angvic...it's probly not as PDS as it is stated to be. that's my opinion. based on what Jeremy said

Bones,
Someone laughed at me in the storm chasers chat for using it.  I was like It works for me.  I can't afford the really good stuff.  It shut them up real quick. LOL  I know that was not nice but my motto is "You gotta do what you gotta do with what you have."

Kristi

Loved your story Zazel!!

I had a similar experience once as well...I now pay a little bit more attention to the seriousness and try to curb the excitement because, you just never know!!

Out in WaKeeney, Kansas -- the circus is in town.  When the sirens went off for a tornado, the elephants got spooked and a couple of them got loose in town.  This could be an interesting story to follow!

Didn't comment past couple of days since I wanted to think things over after reading the posts concerning the sounding of sirens vs. not.   The Pleasant Hill NWS is our "eyes in the sky" and they issue the watches and warnings for the metro and surrounding area.  Lets say I live in Smithville, and I happen to be in Olathe for an evening out.  Suddenly the tornado sirens go off.  Maybe in Smithville, this means that there is an actual tornado on the ground.  But MAYBE in Olathe, the emergency managers sound the sirens for a thunderstorm warning with the potential for damaging winds.  Should I take cover because I am about to be carried away in a tornado?  (For the sake of debate, I am not around a radio or television!)  Or should I just move away from windows because of the threat of strong winds?  The Pleasant Hill NWS should have FIRM DEFINITIONS of when and why a tornado siren in sounded in their region.  Not leave it up to each city, emergency manager or police chief to decide.  Of course the debate would next be, what is the definition, and what to do about the yahoos who go ahead and ignore the sirens anyway?   Just a tidbit to chew on while we wait for the storms....

STRONG rotation right over Marysville KS right now

This is what gets so frustrating. The weather team says one thing. Then others come and give their opinions to the contrary,then others contrary to those. What is a person to think? Some tell everyone we'll barely get rained on, others that this could be very bad. Others rant about people being worried, otehrs that we are too complacent.

I know enough to stay aware. But how does this look to someone new or who understands less? I have seen things happen suddenly when we have been under a slight risk and everyone figured nothing would happen and then it does. Whenever I have family home alone, with me, or I am at work and my kids are home alone or my dogs are alone, I am going to be every concerned. But again, if I were new to this blog I wouldn't know if this was just overanxious hype or something to worry about. Think how this sounds to others.
Those who said this would be nothing..and now we are under a PDS.

I read that on another website.  I thought it was a joke.  That's going to be a national story.  Elephants on the loose in Kansas!

I would agree that would should stay calm and dont panic. we have some time before these storms move in.

i will say i dont think anyone should take the threats lightly. Be aware of the situation, pay attention to it and since it can come later in the night make sure to have a weather radio on you. Something can happen tonight, i know we think maybe just winds, but those can damage. So just be prepared and we will all get past this.

okay shame on me I'm watching TWC just for kicks but the most incredible thing happened. a Local forecast song came on that was from 1993! WHOA FLASHBACK!

okay shame on me I'm watching TWC just for kicks but the most incredible thing happened. a Local forecast song came on that was from 1993! WHOA FLASHBACK!

I have my weather radio on, but if something does happen, I guess I'll have to drive to my neighbors...no basement and in a manufactured home!!!

JERI I AGREE 100 PERCENT!

JeriCorrell. I agree with your statement. I have said for the past couple of days that something would happen. Even today I questioned why they didnt have us back in the High risk. The SPC took us out. Now we have a PDS and they Might put us back in the High risk.

Im just gonna follow My Openion. Thats what I have done all day and thats what I will continue to do.

Sorry to come off rude to other bloggers. I dont mean to be rude or mean but I like to be firm.

We're withing 10 miles of that Morse county TV....hopefully we'll see it!

the only one panicking is you guys. I'm sitting her enjoying it and I'm just giving info when I see it. i'm just gifted I guess. you have to respect the weather to love the weather and therefore not be afraid of it. and then even LOVE IT when it comes. Like me =)

Brocksmama: Because the radio was turned off when the watch was issued, nothing will light up.

cindylouwho...good debate:)

ok, i dont understand where we are getting out large tornado threat from... is there a possibility for storms to develop ahead of the front??

Hail. This is becoming very Interesting to watch. Apparntly its starting to Darken a little in Olathe. Winds are strong.

I might go out a Set up a Camera Later tonight when the storms get closer.

This is gonna get good

Zazel thanks for sharing your experience with us!!

Jeri,
I never said it would not be bad...  I just never felt that there was a huge risk for tornadoes for the metro KC area.  And I am still not convinced even tho we are under a PDS Tornado Watch.  I would be more convinced if the storms had formed closer to us and the sun was out today.  It's been cloudy today but definitely warm and humid.  

I am more convinced of a wind event later.  Straight line winds are no picnic.  I have seen what a microburst (still convinced it was a funnel even seven years later) and straight line winds have done just in my neighborhood alone.

I am sorry if my posts have rubbed you the wrong way this week.

Kristi

Multiple funnels aloft Vliets, KS at 5:40PM

Thanx Roberto- now I feel better!

I guess what I said yesterday is coming true.

Well... In a Few Hours. Its gonna get bad

I am already getting nervous which I know is silly of me.  We will be going to stay the night at the in-laws to have access to a basement and unfortunately I have no computer access so I won't be able to get on and read the blog. :(  Dangit.  

I agree turd frankly I'm getting tired of waiting. and if I may be so frank again, I want a line of supercells to develop ahead of the line. PEOPLE WHO PANIC. THERE IS A SLIM TO NONE CHANCE OF THIS HAPPENING! just so I don't get jumped on.

My mom is going to the store tonight...might have her pick me up one of those weather radios.  I'm tired of the waiting and guessing game especially when I have kids.  

Yes Hail, you dont freak but I do.  I try to stay calm but the scared part keeps coming out.  I dont know what I can do to make it stop.  
Kristi,
I have tried breathing but if I breathe too heavy, I get dizzy! Jk lol
Becky

Wichita is about to get hit with s storm that has 80 to 90 MPH winds.  That is extremely dangerous.  Stay safe for anyone lurking from that area!

Kristi

Everyone who actively participates or lurks in this blog should have a weather radio!

Kristi

i am sorry but i have to throw this in.
the report of the elephants getting loose is hilarious. anyone got a link.

Gary just so you know. we raised 35 dollars for the dog and jog thing.

Becky. Do you like music? when I was little. we had this HUGE Thunderstorm. and I was scared to death and to soothe my fear. I put on my headphones and listened to this rock and roll and I was so into the music it made the thunderstorm like a bonus.

The key to get over your fear is to do something that puts you in a comfort zone like listening to music that just makes you "IN the ZONE" know what I mean. For you it could be something else.

Kristi, I have a weather radio and it hasn't been turned on in 2 years, lol

I love listening to music.  I have over 1600 songs on my iPod. :)  Music helps to calm me.

Kristi

look how the cells are forming further south around the ks/ok border.  looks like the vector of those storms will come pretty close to the n and w parts of the metro area...

Yea I like music but my problem is that if I know the storm is there or coming, I cant concentrate on anything else.  Its kinda nuts....if there are going to be storms coming at like 4 am I wont be able to sleep just knowing they are coming.  I am wierd.  I guess my phobia is worse than I thought.

I have to say I agree that I had a good giggle about the elephants.

I just heard Shawn Wilson on the phone with Jeremy, he said he was very disappointed with the storms so far and they're having a hard time organizing.  I hope it stays that way.  

manhattan is getting socked, funnel clouds reported...

Bewild don't feel too bad, I am the exact same way as you.  

Bad boy, Jonathan!  But you monitor via the net like I do.

Kristi

I have a weather radio...its on my walkie talkie, but its not the kind that turns itself on when the weather takes a turn for the worst.  I am gonna take a shower and get dressed in case I need to pack up and head for the relatives where there is a basement.

Chris Rice is under some very ominous looking clouds.

who the heck is this Chris Rice and where can I see his feed?

Hail,

I really dont mean to sound like I am calling you out here, so please dont take me wrong, but!

If supercells cant form in front of the line? What is that nasty purple thing about to hit Manhatan KS and on its way to Topeka?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I see a weak spot developing near Hutchinson

This squall line may split in two - and miss Kansas City all together...

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=ICT&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes

yes Kristi! I don't rely on weather radios I watch radars very closely.

becky. to ease yourself now. Listen to some music you like. cuz we aren't getting hit for a LONG time. and as i'm looking at the radar. the storms are almost training and not making hardly any Eward movement and I don't think they can backbuild forever. I would like an expert to review this comment and confirm.

Take that back :-) filling in now

Chris is somewhere in the middle of Kansas.  He can be found on www.severestudio.com/livechase

Oops forgot to mention he is a storm chaser. They have several others on their site too.

http://www.severestudios.com/livechase

Then click on Chris Rice....

ParanoidMama: Chris Rice is a storm spotter that has a live feed on the internet of his chases: http://www.severestudios.com/livechase

Kristi, not that at all. (I am at work so cannot get on here much). I just recall the lady that wrote to the KC Star that Gary mentioned, saying she heard all was well, went to bed, and got slammed with a tornado. I am afraid new people might see the discussion, not understand, and decide with people saying everything will fall apart before it gets here or that we will not even see rain...that there is no reason to stay aware.

Everyone should stay aware, everyone should understand that whether we get 90mph winds or a F-1 tornado, it is the wind that causes the damage. I do not want anyone to come here and feel that there is no threat and then blame people here for making them feel secure without cause. True, everyone is responsible for their own well-being but how bad would we feel if we were saying there was nothing to worry about and then their house got slammed and injured their family...or worse?

It is very confusing here when we go under a watch, some are too hyper, some too calm and it is hard to tell what to do. And I don't feel we should second guess the weatheer team, since they are the ones who are trained and have been doing this for a long time.

No offense meant , Kristi.

bewild79... I'm with you. Only got a few hours sleep last night and a total wreck today.

Getting ready to go out and bring in the horses.... not sure what I am going to do with the goats. Their shelter was damaged by Monday's storm. Hope they use the dog houses and they don't blow away!

On the verge of tears I am so stressed!! It's not just the this storm coming, but the damage that I have already that needs fixed and it will only get worse if high winds and hail come again. Boy I am really ready for some dry, hot weather!

Thank you Hail, I will try that.

You know I am trying really hard to work here guys... (wink wink...)
at least some how I can keep informed while I try to stay on task (ha ha )

Chris was under the leading edge of a very well defined cyclonic supercell just now.  Seems to be heading further east at the moment.

Tornado warning in wichita, sirens going off, tv station ksn going to the basement

Chris' cam isnt up right now

Is chris tracking the storms that are headed here now?  is there anyone else on that list that might be closer?

Farmgirl,
Hopefully we will get lucky and it wont be much by the time it gets here.  

Farmgirl, hang in there ((((hug))).  So sorry for all your stress.  Isn't there anyone around that'll help or shelter your goats for you?

Bones. That really isn't a classic super cell it still is partially connected to the main line. a classic super cell is all the way out by itself and has a defined hook on the southwest edge.

now cancelling tor warn for wichita

Farmgirl, keep the faith!! Animals have a strange way of sensing these things and knowing what to do. Sorry about your previous damage, I hope that an angel is sent your way to assist!!

farmgirl,
  I really feel sorry for you and hope you will have a long, dry spell where you can do some much needed cleanup! Maybe you'll be spared today. We can hope!

Be safe D from Warsaw!!

RIght on!

I stand corrected...!

whats a good sight for streaming chaser footage? thanks MT

new mesoscale for metro....I think.

I'm now seeing Eastward progression of the south end of the line down near wichita. It's making it's move guys but in the form of a squall line. it looks to be forming a bow maybe in the near future based on radar trends.

Hey anybody know where juncition city is? and whats going on there? my brothers at work in manhattan now and then on his way to junction city thanks

Am I the only one surprised that we are not dealing with a plethora of tornado warnings right now? Sure every so often 1 or 2 warnings go out and there are 2 persistant cells with rotation, but with a High Risk and with wind fields the way they are, I was thinking this would be alot worse than it is right now.

MTongate go to www.severestudios.com/livechase.  There are several storm chasers web cams listed there.  Chris Rice is in middle of Kansas City now.  Some are up in Iowa, others OK, etc.

Coffee lover my brother is also in Junction City I just talked to him he's okay.

Junction city is due west of Manhattan. 20 miles or so I believe.

I'm in Belton, but my brother is in Wichita, so I'm following ksn.com live streaming for Wichita. It looks like the worst is over there.

www.ksn.com  click on the top right for the weather (Live Streaming HD box)  
They have a VERY good meteorologist (he's not 41's team though).  

-Brian

Junction City is SW of manhattan and they have a severe T-storm warning right now.

Sorry meant middle of Kansas not KC.

OK.  The sun has broken through here in NW Olathe.  Is that a good thing?  Or will it bring on more heat to feed the oncoming storm...

thanks hail and awtherfrd I called my brother and gave him a heads up

I am actually in wichita right now.  We made it about 30 minutes before the storms came in.  It is not too bad here right now (west side).  About 10 minutes ago the rain was coming down in horizontal sheets.  The wind was the biggest threat.  The sirens were going off for about 10 minutes, but nothing came of that.

What direction is Chris Rice headed?  He is north of Topeka on the map... (maybe)

there is a new meso for the metro...they are talking about the storms developing into a long lived Derecho moving through later.

a Derecho is a long lived line of thunderstorms with winds of 80+ mph

Had my hernia surgery this morning and I am good to go tracking the storms all night.    I am hoping we get a quick moving line and not too much rain.   I dont think my yard or basement can take anymore.

BTW, this is my 3rd hernia on the same side and they really have it down now.   4" scar and no pain.  Sent home 1 hour after surgery.    That On-Q pain medicine delivery system is the way to go... no narcotics!!!  

GL Farmgirl, we will all hope you get a small cell move through your area.  You have had way too much bad weather this year :(

Anybody who can contact gary, tell him to put a new entire blog post up
so he can see the coments! My son's piano lessons were cancceled cuz of the weather, LOL they won't be here until midnight, way after hume will be closed!

For those who don't already know, I just looked up "QLCS" because I have been seeing it in SPC/WFO discussions for the past couple of days, and just now in our new MD...it means "quasi-linear convective system"

awwww farmgirl... everything will turn out for the better... it always does!!

so is it safe to say that only one line of storms is going to move through?

What are they discussing? Extending time on Tornado watch? Adding more counties, taking some away? What does the new Meso mean?

Gary we are now at 45 dollars for the dog and jog fundraiser.

Thanks, Kailyn...

What Type of a Derecho. A Hybrid or a Progressive or a serial Derecho

TyndallFlowers -- I'm not familiar with that area so not sure exactly where he is at and which direction he is headed.  

Severe weather update -- NW MO Tornado Warning!!!

NW Tornado Warning

GUYS PAY ATTENTION....
THE LINE DOWN BY WICHITA IS EVOLVING INTO A BOW ECHO/DERECHO AS WE SPEAK!

It's headed right for the metro. I'm not one to put things into CAPS LOCK but this could be a very serious WIND event for the metro in a matter of HOURS.

call the spc chiefs!

I see your radar trends Hail.

no angvic, a little peek of sun at this stage of the game wont hurt any thing

Farmgirl,
Stay safe and we will help you thru the events later tonight.  I am sorry that you are having to deal with all the damage on your farm. :(

Kristi

No problem D...there is a site in NWS called "Jetstream"  that has a glossary and meteorology acronyms that I keep bookmarked...I have to visit it often! :)

don't you see it bones? it's getting stronger every minute!

Hail, I'm here totally to learn -- is there any reason to believe that since the storm is hours away that what is evolving in Wichita would break apart before reaching our area??? I'm totally clueless when it comes to this stuff and trying to learn.

If the storms are nearing Topeka, why will it take until 10:00 for them to reach us? I would think they would be here sooner than that.

 chfs327: I'm thinking a serial based on this I found on Wikipedia, because of size and the deep low:

Serial derecho - Multiple bow echoes embedded in a massive squall line typically around 250 miles (400 km) long. This type of derecho is usually associated with a very deep low. Also because of embedded supercells, tornadoes can easily spin out of these types of derechos.
Progressive derecho - A small line of thunderstorms take the bow-shape and can travel for hundreds of miles.
Hybrid derecho - Has characteristics of a serial and progressive derecho. These types of derechos are associated with a deep low like serial derechos, but are relatively small in size like progressive derechos.
According to the National Weather Service criterion, a derecho is classified as a band of storms that have winds of at least 50 knots (58 mph or 93 km/h) along the entire span of the derecho.

Am I off on that?

Hail I am getting that invisible feeling you talked about earlier, LOL.

Anyways if anyone does happen to respond to my comment, can someone translate what the mesodiscussion is saying for someone like myself who is still learning and isn't fluent in weather talk yet?

you know, I really think we could have gotten by with just a moderate risk.

Lizbaugh: The new meso is just stating that the severe threat continues and that the possibility of an extreme wind event with isolated tornadoes in the watch area exists.

Anyone watching the http://www.tornadovideos.net live feeds? Looks like TVN Stream 1 has a bead on a possible funnel just south of Witchita.

So the 23Z is out, any one else see a second smaller surface low forming???

Severe Weather Update - Atchison County NW MO _ around Rockford Tornado on the ground.

In layman's terms...  SPC is looking at two derechos forming...  One near KC (just to our NW actually)  and the other down in SE KS and SW MO. (the one that has formed near Wichita)

Kristi

Ya I see it hail... I am trying to bu toghether the timing?

I don't know this Line is tricky...one minute it looks like it's headed right for us but then the next it looks like it's continuing on it's NE track.

you used wikipedia?  I dont think that the information you would find on that site should be considered reliable.

Right Tyler  Our greatest risk here in KC is damaging winds.  I feel that the tornado risk is not that great.  The storms will go linear long before they get here.

Marlina,
The storms are moving rapidly to the NE right now and the line itself is moving slowly to the east.

Kristi

so, since this is evolving quickly, and moving fast- How much time are we talking before it gets to the Gardner, Great Plains Mall area??? I live just north of there- and I need to have my stupid cell phone looked at because it won't work at all- unless it attached to my computer- and if the power goes out- the back up battery will only last so long... ugh- I should have worked harder today and gotten out of here sooner- stupid internet!!! (sorry me rambiling)

Also, and I hate to mention it but, the caps have weakened a bit as well. Can anyone confirm?

If anyone lives in NW Missouri---Atchison County---A tornado was reported on the ground but has since lifted, but there is still extremely strong rotation according to Jeremy Nelson, who just broke into programming. Our first tornado of the evening. Hopefully it didn't cause much damage. It looks like if any more tornadoes touch down from this cell they will be fairily short lived.

aurora...
the meso discussion is suggesting the line will evolve into a Derecho which is a long track squall line with dangerously high winds.

And I believe the radar is strating to show the caps weakening? got some tiny little echos around StJoe??

IF it were me I would have put us under a PDS Severe T-Storm Watch

Tyndall,
You have time to go get your cell phone fixed.

Kristi

That's my thinking, Roberto.  The tornadoes would be quick spin ups.

Kristi

Well I have been away for a while but it looks like everyone is still thinking the same things.

Could anyone tell me if we are still expecting multiple rounds or just one big round of storms?

Thanks

I just looked up the term DERECHO at spc, and found out that kc was hit with one back in 1982.  Some people, mostly north of the river, were without power for over a week.  Damage was extensive.  

Let's pray this doesn't hit folks, and since we have time, going outside and put anything away that could become a projectile.  

Dang, I got way too many big tree's around this old house!

I think I should have stuck with my 8PM arrival time.... On the first action that is, not the worst!!! Just want to point that out. No one flip out!!

I am thinking one big round, chieffan.

Kristi

Auroramamma.

No one is ignoring you and I hope you don't take this the wrong way.............

But you are on a computer, obviously have access to the internet, why wouldn't you google "mesoscale discussion national weather service 2008" instead of wasting time trying to get the answer here?

Use google as your friend, second link on that google search and you are there.

Also, if I have a question on this fantastic blog about something someone posted that I don't know of I google it.  You get an answer in literally less than a minute vs. waiting around for someone to respond to you or wasting time typing a post about being "invisible".

Again I hope to not come across as an you-know-what but it frustrates me when people waste their time and a post that all of us have to waste time reading, when the aformentioned poster could easily find the answer in less than a minute.

Good luck with Google.  Google is YOUR FRIEND!!!!  ;>)

Glad you are up to $45 Jon. Sorry I couldnt contribute more than we did but you know how poor we are right now. I wish we could join you there on sunday, if only it wasnt for the wedding in st. louis. Hopefully all the weather is cleared up for our drive in the morning. I am not thinking that will be a problem though. Enjoy the weather tonight Jon, I can only imagine how excited you are right now.

What does liner mean?

mm,
Jonathan answered her question.

Kristi

chieffan: I'm am certainly not the expert, but looking at radar, I don't see anything developing once this system moves thru.  But I would go with what someone more experienced than me == Kristi? Bones? Hail?

I will take for granted every one is seeing the small pop around Maysville/MAryville area.

And forming toward the south?

mmancubfan: Google is exactly what I did to find a good definition of the word "derecho," and I got blasted for it.  No worries, I use it all the time and you're right, Google is your friend!

Renee,
I don't remember that derecho.  Too, too long ago.

Straight line winds can be very destructive, folks.

Kristi

well, I am out of here- will be back later telling ya'll whats going on in OOO'lathe- yes I said it - I am not proud- but it's been a long day- and will only get longer as we all know- ;-0
T

Linear means a line...  The storms instead of being supercells will form a sold line.

Kristi

Wow! I havnt even thought about looking behind the line yet!! kristi? Hail? What have you got?

Ok yall, I am gonna shut the computer down and head to my sisters house.  I will pick up when I get there.  Everyone stay safe and hopefully I wont totally flip out tonight.

Great info about derechos here http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/derechofacts.htm

emcat,
I answered above..  One big round.

Kristi

I"m very excited Andrea!

Bones,
It is going to be one big line that moves thru here.  Then we are done.

Kristi

Skies are trying to clear at Great Mall.

Does anyone know what kind of rainfall amounts these storms could have?  The weatherbug thing is saying 2 to possibly 4 inches an hour!

Our town has the Marais de Cygnes river on one side & the Pottawatomie Creek on the other.  The creek is what got us last year & the river is already at flood stage.

Just wondering if we might be looking at more flooding from this to the point that we should head out soon instead of chance not being able to get out due to the rising water in town.

Would love to have some thoughts on this.

and thank you for your donation!

Nice link, chell!

Kristi

Alot of PPL are gonna be angry because the storms are gonna interrupt the Celtics Lakers game

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Just keep it tuned to NBC tonight.  We will keep you updated.  No program is more important than viewer's lives!

Jeremy

Thanks Simplykristi and emcat.

I'm sure I will be asking more question as the night moves on. LOL. So thanks in advance for all the help.

we got storms behind the line in far western Kansas...they seem to be struggling a bit. I'm going to check dewpoints out there.

bones....those storms are in response to the upper low. they are behind the front. Don't expect anything from them.

I was joking around with Hail.  Trust me I'll refer any further questions to Google, thanks.

chfs you are very right. i am glad my husband who loves almost all sports doesnt like Pro BB. hope he gets home soon from his Corp Challenge event. I want to make sure he is home well in advance of the storms

havent even thought about dinner yet, maybe i should work on that.

Chris Rice's Cam has what appears to be lots of funnels!

Im trying to think whether or not I should Go And stay the night as someones house that has underground powerlines. My Power goes out when a squrriel tries to jump from it.

I had Sonic. It was good

aurora you can ask me anything.

Folks,
Don't be afraid to ask any questions!  One of us will answer them.  If some of you don't want to answer them, just move on and don't post to tell people to Google it.

Kristi

Glad you liked the link, Kristi! Here's another one for the 1982 Kansas City derecho:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/casepages/kc1982mem2003pwrpage.htm#kansascity

Everyone.

Derechos can be more destructive as single F-4 or F-5 tornadoes.

Remember that derecho that swept S-SW from C. Illinois into the St. Louis metro area two years ago?

It killed 10 people and left thousands without power for weeks.

More people died in that high wind derecho event in Metro St. Louis than died in the F-5 in Iowa two weeks ago.

Just a reminder of how destructive these lines of storms can be.  This one is going to very similiar to the one earlier in the Spring that popped that isolated tornado in the Northland in the early morning hours.

time to update the blog guys

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The blog updates are done when we have time...we are tracking the storms at the moment.  Keep NBC on and we will break in when needed.  Probably another update in the next 15-20 minutes.

Jeremy

Dry line has cleared Hays, their depoint is 55.  Now get this down near Medicine Lodge their dewpoint is 22.

Glad you liked the derecho link, Kristi! Here's another one about the 1982 Kansas City derecho:

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/casepages/kc1982mem2003pwrpage.htm#kansascity

I've been away from the blog for awhlie -- coming home from work, getting food, bringing the flowers in -- so what have I missed?  Any chance these things are weakening?

Thanks, chell!  I bookmarked both pages. :)

Renee,
I hope that you get to visit the second link that chell posted.  Great historical info on the 1982 derecho.

Kristi

The Squall line has really not made much more progress and it seemed it's not gaining much more strength...

Has anyone else had problems loading Chris Rice's cam?  It won't load for me...

Jeremy, you mean you are busy tonight? LOL!

so i am watching 41 for the weather break ins and actually enjoying the show that is on.

thanks for the derecho information, it is very interesting.

WOW  What a low dewpoint in Medicine Lodge, KS!

Kristi

For us here in Topeka, it appears the best guess is we will have a line of storms get here by about 9:00P with straight line winds and heavy rain being the biggest threats. 60-70 MPH winds are possible but hopefully we won't go higher than that. I'd say the KC area about an hour later maybe?

Could be all done by midnight here with all of the big stuff, so maybe a good night's sleep for the rest of the night.

Mike

Thank you guys.  We are heading out to in-laws now so we don't have to wake up our little guy in the middle of the night, so I won't be able to get on here.  I hope everyone here stays SAFE!!

Kristi - from another blogger who is inexperienced...Thank you for that.  You and others have always been very generous about helping to educate those of us that are not as experienced.  That is why I have always loved this community!!!

Yes, Erin...  He may be in an area with spotty cell phone coverage.

Krsiti

THANKS EMCAT

I just lost Chris' feed, too. He was getting some really good shots just a few minutes ago.  I hope he is safe!

I was six years old during the June '82 derecho.  We lived on 76th St between Parallel and Leavenworth Rd.  I remember literally being yanked out of bed by the back of my pajamas and hauled backwards through the house to the basement door.  If my parents had been about five seconds slower, we would've ended up under the oak tree from our front yard after it crashed through the roof into our living room.  Bottom line, they can cause much more widespread damage and be just as deadly as tornadoes.  

Here it comes, kinda like a present from your crazy aunt, not sure what we might get.

mmancubfan. I Agree with your statement. Thats why i think that at the 8:00PM Update. We should be in a Hgh risk. Because of the Damage that can be done from a Derecho.

small cells are developing immediately behind the line.

Chris' cam is back --for now -- not sure where he is but lots of heave rain, dark clouds, etc.

Kristi...

Just fyi WIBW is streaming again live

Jennifer

Thanks, Jennifer!  I will pop over there to listen to the stream. :)  My dad has the Royals game on so I won't be able to listen to any weather updates from Gary and the team.

Kristi

I tried all the feeds but no streaming

today is the first day i've ever looked at the blog and I LOVE IT! it keeps me so informed and i love reading what everyone else is thinking!  My only concern is that once the storm gets here and if the possibility of a tornado erupts, I hope the sirens go off this time.  I live in NKC right by Gladstone and when that tornado hit Margarita's I was still asleep in bed like a baby.  I may just have to run out and get a weather radio before i go to bed!

GREAT LINKS LOVED EM!!!

and does anyone else notice storms forming behind the line? shoot

Kristi, that was the link where I read about all the damage.  Sorry I didn't post if for everyone.   I wasn't here in town when that hit, I was living in Texas at the time.  My folks were here, but I sure don't remember mom talking about it.

Been outside picking up stuff - came in to check on things before I go put stuff in the garage.  Grrrr... sure hope this wimps out, or my poor little garden will get flattened, and my tomatoes are looking soooooooo good right now.

MTongate, I just hit refresh and then leave the page up and usually when the feed becomes live again it will populate.

I wondered if that is the link where you got your info from, Renee.  I don't even remember it and I lived here.  

Kristi

The derecho seems to still be strong and heading towards Kansas City. I wonder if it will weaken later on before it hits? Probably not, but I don't know.

You're welcome.  In a situation like this, i would love to chase but I do that when my kids are with their dad.  They get too freaked out thinking i'm gonna get "sucked up".  So, i like taking advantage of the live streaming out of Topeka.

Jennifer

WeatherDude -- those were not there 10 minutes ago.  I was hoping once this passed that would be it.  Yet another thing to keep our eyes on.

Well folks,

We were all over the Mahattan area and such...a few sirens here and there...but we didn't get any funnels.  I mean we were on this like white on rice.

A SkyWarn Spotter and local Sherriff said we were right in the middle of a tornado...lol...but I think they were just a bit excited.

We got some great cloud formation footage which we'll put together tonight hopefully...but overall Central KS was a big bust, IMO.

Gary was right...these things were fast and difficult to chase.

Maybe we'll have better luck next time.

Jeff Nielsen (PLA414)...no SIG WX to report.

Jeremy said a new blog soon, I think the tornado threat exists along the drylind and slightly to the north for the PDS tornados, we should be replaces with a regular tornado watch and/or a severe PDS severe thunderstorm watch (if that exists ;). Juba! The Derech is Uproching!

Reports of golf ball sized hail in Manhattan earlier.

Kristi

Hey Kristi...while we are waiting for it to come here, does it look like Lincoln, NE is out of the clear for the really bad storms now?

thank you

KETV in Omaha is covering tornado warnings in southeast Nebraska/northwest Missouri

Yes, Emmysmom.  It looks like Lincoln is in the clear.

Kristi

looking at this link, do you feel that this is one big derecho, or that it will eventually end up as a large squall line when it reaches us?  I cannot make up my mind either way.

Will

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/uppermissvly_loop.php

Jeremy, NEW BLOG TIME!!! You said there'd be one at 41 past the hour! ;)

it looks like a derecho is forming near emporia guys heading for us, if it holds together.

It just looks like it is broadening and breaking a bit as it progresses.  Thoughts?

Will

Is there an updated time for when the derecho will reach Kansas City?

Im still thinking.... If theres a Derecho... Wont that pose a better threat than supercell thunderstorms of widespread damage and flooding.

Looks like most of the action will be on the Kansas side tonight. We aren't even under a severe weather watch.

I may have missed it above but I'll never catch up if I read back...what's a Derecho?

does anybody know where steve miller is? My gps on severe studios shows him in Algeria, Africa. Whaaaaat?

Bow Echo approaching Franklin -- numerous torndas in Atchison county -- per jeremy

Severe t-storm warning for Emporia for quarter-size hail and winds in excess of 70 MPH.

Kristi

WRDeming. If that Holds together Olathe is gonna face it at peak strength. Oh jeeze oh Man.

Im getting the Generator Ready. Since our Ice storms didnt work

Don't be surprised if a new blog doesn't get started.  The team is EXTREMELY busy right now!! Be patient. There are a lot of educated people on this site keeping us well informed.

Juba,
Jeremy will post a new entry when he has time.  I am sure he is putting something together as he is studying the data.  Be patient please.

Kristi

BTW The TOPEKA Area NWS page isnt Correct. Doesnt show any warnings or Tornado stuff

I think that he is OK, Tyler.

Kristi

Ok...? Can we or has there been conframation that this thing is a derecho or are we just going off of SPC's warning assisment?

haha chfs327... but wow, this think looks nasty... soo i guess a derecho is like straight line winds?

Twister, it looks like that Emporia storm is really beginning to bow - I hope the folks at the Wakarusa festival near Lawrence are keeping a really close eye on the weather - the campers are there are pretty vulnerable if this thing blows near Lawrence.

It looks to me like the line is kind of breaking up and forming into more discrete cells as it gets closer to us.  I imagine it will still hold together, but if it breaks up some that would seem to indicate a higher chance of supercells and the resulting chaos.

Gary on now!

The New Outlook is about be given.

So I suppose I should call my friends in Olathe to make sure they are aware of whats going on.  On Monday they weren't watching TV at all and had no idea of the scariness around them.

Gary's on...

chfs327,

I think the operative word is "if".  Looking at the radar loops and studying the flows and movement, it looks to me that it is weakening a bit as it progresses N/NE.  I could be off base, and we all know that it could restrengthen, but to me, I am not seeing as impressive of a line as I was previously.

Will

HIGH RISK.

Gary's on --- Update Tornado on ground still in Atchison - Bow Echo appears to be heading for Metro - Strong damaging winds, lots of bad lightning tornados possible.

THE NEW OUTLOOK IS ON. WE ARE NOW IN THE HIGH RISK AREA.

Hey!! Wasnt Gary off today?

Gary also stated that the bow echo appears to be approaching the metro-near Emporia now.

So did I understand that the bow echo is going to hit the metro in about 30 minutes, but the actual thunderstorm wont reach here for a few hours?  How long does one normally feel the effects of the bow echo winds?  The last and only time that I know of that I experienced bow echos was in May.  I thought "This is outrageous", but then the next day I find out that there was a tornado just about 4 blocks north.  So I dont know if felt the bow echo or the winds from the tornado.

I was about to say... We are back in the high risk, its been moved back to the east.

Emmysmom, here's the info link on derechos again

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/derechofacts.htm

good evening everyone
I have been glued to the blog ALL day! I really really really hope it doesnt turn out to be as bad as it looks
can someone please post what gary just talked about. I missed him. IF it was about the tornado warning near Holt county then no need to post but if it was an update for tonight can you please let us know.
Kristi - I really want to thank you. You have a great calming effect - at least for me anyways. You seem to be a wealth of knowledge about weather. How are you feeling things are looking from Knob/whiteman afb later tonight?

bones -- I saw somewhere in an earlier blog that he would come back in tonight because of the severe weather threat. He is so dedicated -- one of the reasons I know many of us our so dedicated to their team and this blog.

that bow just blew threw emporia, how can we find out storm reports?

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=ICT&lat=37.68978119&lon=-97.34147644&label=Wichita%2C+KS&type=N0R&zoommode=pan&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&delay=15&scale=1&showlabels=1&smooth=0&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&rainsnow=0&lightning=0

reminds me too much of may 2nd

 I can't do live but if you go to the weather tab or better yet http://www.nbcactionnews.com/weather/default.aspx then go to live streming. click play and be patient but the none live forecast should come up in a minute or two! It is the 24hr nbc weather and weather plus wthrworrywart

a cell just developed and merged with the main bow echo in SE KS

HIGH RISK appears to be for wind not so much tornadoes.  We must be prepared for the bow echo that is approaching us from the SW.  It is in the Emporia area now.  Be prepared for strong winds.  A tornado could spin up for a very brief time.  Use common sense...  Stay away from windows during the storm.  Have a flashlight ready in case the power goes out.

Kristi

Kristi -- ditto for me on thanking you for all your calm, patience and willingness to share your knowledge.  I know it it can be annoying to the regular bloggers when people like me who ususally lurk and them come out during the threats posts lots of questions, uneducated opionions, etc.  start blogging.  Thanks you so much for all you do!!!

the bow echo/line is developing new charactaristics on the radar trends its developing appendages or like a chainsaw look to it around the edge I don't know what this means.

Are we still thinking the storms are going to arrive in the Liberty area at about 9:00 or 9:30?

I'm just trying to figure out when I have to leave to go to shelter.

Thanks

I don't understand how it would be in Kansas City in 30 minute if it's at Emporia now. Is it really moving that fast or will we feel the winds before the actual storm arrives?

I am one who panics at this stuff. I love it, but it scares me. I have a toddler upstairs asleep in her crib and never know when to wake her up and bring to the basement. Then I don't know where in the basement to go. It is finished with no heavy furniture, but 3 rooms that are inclosed. I am in Stilwell, southern JOCO. Do I need to be worried? I have been following you guys all day and seriously how do you know this stuff? My head has been spinning! :) I love this blog and all the great info we get from it. Skys look scary out by me right now.

thank u juba!

The airport in Emporia had a wind gust of 70 MPH at 7:53.

Kristi

How soon does it look like these heavy winds will be starting?

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Gary made a new blog!

i am really suprised the rest of the viewing area does not have any sort of watch yet

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so that cell trying to form over ottawa, should that be someting to watch? i live in gardner so what ever hits ottowa hits me.

Anyone in the Maryville MO needs to take shelter now!  Squall line with extreme wind damage and tornadoes in that area.  Take cover now!

Kristi

Heavy lightening in west Topeka is being reported.

Is the commenting section broken.  The last comment I see is 8:18 from davidmcg.