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Rainfall amounts & Independence Day forecast

Good morning bloggers,

My first day back from vacation was not an easy one at KSHB-TV.  I wrote a blog during the afternoon wondering if thunderstorms were going to form, and that we would know a lot more by 5 PM.  During the 5 PM newscast, Jeff Penner and I went outside and we just knew that thunderstorms were going to form right over the city after seeing the billowing cumulus clouds and feeling the humidity.  The dewpoints were pooling (high dewpoints concentrating over a local area), and the front was approaching.  We had the highest dewpoint, 73 degrees, in the entire region right near downtown Kansas City at 5 PM.  By 6 PM, thunderstorms rapidly formed near the Kansas Speedway, and then they organized into a complex of thunderstorms centered right over the city.  3 to 5 inches of rain fell in a few spots.  We will list the totals here in a few minutes.  Some large hail fell, and you can go to our website for more pictures, but here are a few, starting with one of the lowerings that had a lot of people concerned.  There just wasn't much rotation as conditions weren't favorable for any tornadoes yesterday.    Here are some rainfall totals (let us know how much you had and we will show some of them on the air tonight).

Rainfall totals:

  • Between 152 & 45 highway, MO:  4.50"
  • Kansas City, MO (Vivion & Davidson):  4.01"
  • Near Shoal Creek in the northland, MO:  3.87"
  • Kansas City, KS (18th & State):  3.30"
  • Downtown airport:  3.21" (2.29" in one hour) 
  • KCI airport:  3.02"
  • Platte City, MO:  3.00"
  • Liberty, MO:  3.00"
  • Kansas City, KS:  2.81"
  • Blue Springs, MO:  2.40"
  • Grain Valley, MO:  2.08" (SW), 1.83" (North)
  • Easton, MO:  2.00"
  • Raytown, MO:  1.90"
  • Lee's Summit (northeast side), Mo:  1.50"
  • Overland Park Executive airport:  1.41"
  • Lee's Summit airport:  0.92"
  • Paola, KS:  0.55"
  • Lawrence (NW side), KS:  0.53"
  • 119th & State Line:  0.52"

One of our NBC Action News spotters, Josh, took this picture in Shawnee near the Mid-America Sports Complex on Johnson Drive.  It would have had my attention.  He says that he saw some slight rotation.  I saw a few features like this near downtown as well.  Fortunately it is just an impressive lowering and it was not a tornado.

The two hail pictures below are from Michele in Shawnee, near 49th & Switzer.  It has been quite a year for hail in our area.

Tristin Scott, in Merriam, took this next picture as the thunderstorm moved east.

The weather still looks great for the holiday weekend.  A warming trend will bring temperatures up to near 90 by Sunday.  There is still some potential for thunderstorms over the weekend, but not on Friday night.  It looks great for fireworks. We will have Kansas City's most accurate forecast on NBC Action News, so be sure to watch as we get new data and analyze this interesting weather pattern.

Have a fantastic holiday weekend.  A Drunk Driving Watch goes into affect tonight (in memory of all of those injured or killed in drunk driving accidents), so please have a designated driver and don't drink and drive!

Gary

Published Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:37 AM by glezak

Comments

 

WycoSpotter said:

2.81 here since Wednesday Morning here in my neck of the woods in KCK Gary. Mother nature put on a nice show last night here in Western WYCO, and it was nice to finally recieve some rainfall in the western part of the metro.

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Thanks for the total.

July 3, 2008 5:58 AM
 

DPannell said:

Good Morning,
0.55" of rain in Paola last night, although I don't like rain at all, I can live with that amount and the fact it fell at night.  Now....sun, heat and humidity please =).  Have a good day!
--deb

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Deb,

Thank you for the total.  Yes, you had just enough without the problems.

Gary

July 3, 2008 6:04 AM
 

tirzah2 said:

Had 1.90" in my gauge Gary.

Laura in Raytown

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Laura,

Thank you.  I will add your total to the list.

Gary

July 3, 2008 6:09 AM
 

Matt P said:

Gary, we finally topped out at 3.87" at NE 76th and N Tullis near Shoal Creek in the Northland.

July 3, 2008 6:27 AM
 

weatherwunder said:

Welcome Back, Gary!!!
Yes, we certainly agree it was quite eventful for your first day back.  The weather just wanted to let you know you're back in Kansas!  That black cloud certainly looks like a tornado.  Wow!
Edna

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Edna,

Yes it does!  And, today should be a lot calmer.

Gary

July 3, 2008 6:36 AM
 

dogncatmom said:

1.50" in northeast Lee's Summit.

Welcome back Gary!  I loved your pics of Breezy and Stormy in yesterday's blog!
July 3, 2008 6:47 AM
 

HarryB said:

2.4 inches of rain here in Blue Springs off of Valley View DR.
July 3, 2008 6:51 AM
 

johnj said:

Boy,  when you say high dewpoints can bring heavy rain, you ain't kiddin'!  Even the roaches in my building were lining up two by two to get on the ark.

Isn't that total from KCI close to the normal monthly precipitation?

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John,

I think we average around 4 inches in July.  So, it is already close.

Gary

July 3, 2008 6:51 AM
 

JennIrat said:

Received 2" of rain here in Easton, MO.  The sirens were going off last night and the local weather station had said there was some slight rotation over Elwood, KS.  
July 3, 2008 6:55 AM
 

Chris said:

1.83 inches in N Grain Valley...We also had amazing wind gusts...Strongest i've ever seen.
July 3, 2008 6:56 AM
 

frigate said:

What a night and what a year so far as the stormy pattern continues. Some of the heaviest rainfall, I've seen in a long time during the first storm, visibility reduced to a few hundered feet. 2.08 here in SW Grain Valley.

Jeff
July 3, 2008 6:56 AM
 

Larry A said:

NW Lawrence received 0.53" from the sotrms last night, excluding the 0.09" received early Wednesday morning for a total of 0.62".
July 3, 2008 7:04 AM
 

Chris1905 said:

Platte City as of 4:45am had 3in.
Chris
July 3, 2008 7:04 AM
 

NotesInTheMargin said:

Updated forecast competition standings to include all of yesterday's events (including the 2.58" of rain at KMCI by midnight ... and the low that was reached late in the evening (65) during the storms - colder than the morning low of 73 and the late morning low of 69 that occurred during the morning convection!).

Remember:  Low score = more accurate forecast

1.  MikeL  .........34.25
2.  RDub  .........39.4
3.  LSGolfer  .....46.4
4.  Lezak  .........51.75
5.  Notes  .........52.9
6.  Scott  .........55.9
7.  BellGolf  ......59.65
8.  RockMcKc  ...63.8
9.  GaryB  .........80.4

The first two forecasters are currently beating consensus.

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Thanks Notes!  When I responded to your comment yesterday afternoon, I stated that we would probably know a lot more by 5 PM.  It took until right about that time when we were convinced these thunderstorms would form and hit us.  Nowcasting can be frustrating, but also fun.

Gary

July 3, 2008 7:24 AM
 

stormlover said:

we had 3 inches even in Liberty

Have a good day
July 3, 2008 7:27 AM
 

JeffinSKC said:

gary:

.52" @ 119th & state line.
July 3, 2008 7:28 AM
 

sedsinkc said:

Received 4.01 inches of rain last night near Vivion and Davidson in the Northland.  Had no hail whatsoever, but wind gusts at the height of the storm est. around 50-60 mph from the north to northwest.  Power out in some parts of the neighborhood still this morning.  Thanks for the forecast accuracy standings, very interesting.
July 3, 2008 7:31 AM
 

sedsinkc said:

Pretty cool.  I just checked the Pleasant Hill radar total storm precip and it verifies with a small area of 4+ inches of rain around to just west of my location.  
July 3, 2008 7:35 AM
 

siraluce said:

KCK/N 18th and State:

Big storm from yesterday evening through the overnight hours:  3.21

Earlier yesterday:   0.09

Total yesterday and overnight:  3.30

Incredible gully washer, very strong winds and hail of about 3/4 of an inch in diameter, though just a few hail stones.  At the height of the deluge the winds were so strong and gusty I was wondering if a tornado was nearby.  Many small and and a few medium sized branches came down and are scattered about the neighborhood this morning.  

We also lost power during the storm and are still without power this morning.  

July 3, 2008 7:44 AM
 

Hamons Custom Landscaping said:

.6" at Hamons Custom Landscaping's World Headquarters at 91st and Antioch
July 3, 2008 8:02 AM
 

Tim in West Shawnee said:

Great job last night Gary & team.  We ended up with 1.27" in Western Shawnee.  The perfect-sized drink for my yard!

Tim
July 3, 2008 8:03 AM
 

CO dreaming said:

Here in extreme south Lee's Summit(150 & 291), we missed all the flooding. Didn't think we would get anything but a sound and light show. While everyone else north of us got hammered, we got just a few sprinkles until after 11PM. Rain here must have been heavier after midnight because I checked the gauge this morning to find 1.1"! Perfect, just enough to not have to water the grass!
July 3, 2008 8:04 AM
 

micshell said:

WX Team,
I live off K Hiway in the northlands between 152 and 45 hwys and we got 4.5 inches of rain last evening.  For a while last night is was as if someone was standing on my roof pouring water from a bucket!  We also had quite abit of lightening as well, a large bolt hit a tree in my drive.  The husband is cutting it up with a chainsaw right now.  Additionally, lost power several times-maybe it was Murphy's law-everytime we reset the clocks, the power went out again!  Have a great day and good job on the coverage.

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Thank you!  And, you were right near the bullseye!

Gary

July 3, 2008 8:07 AM
 

LucyVanPelt said:

I am generally a lurker here, but had to post today.  I don't have a rain gauge, but can tell you that this is the first time in the 10 years that I have lived in my house that that runs through our neighborhood has come out of its banks.  We had a major flash flood in our area that caught people off guard.  We had one person take shelter in our house because she could not get home.  The bridge was under water by about 2 feet.  We had to empty our shed because the water was rising fast and at the bottom or our shed.  We also saw some people attempting to drive through it.  Please don't do this.  There was not a thing we could have done if they had been swept away.  And all of this right West of Parkville!

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Thank you for your report, and welcome to the blog.  It was just too much rain and too fast.  You likely had 3 inches of rain in one hour.

Gary

July 3, 2008 8:08 AM
 

sedsinkc said:

Gary, if you had asked the bloggers to predict yesterday's rainfall totals at KCI or elsewhere and I had gone with a KCI lowball figure this time, I'd have been hosed.

How will you know when the current LRC has faded away, and when do you see that happening?

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In the past few years we have tracked the weakening LRC as it continues through August.  It will continue to weaken as the jet stream reaches its weakest point by early August, but even in this weakened state we may see some evidence of the same pattern continuing.  Sometime between August and October the massive transition occurs into next years LRC.

Gary

July 3, 2008 8:12 AM
 

joneslr said:

We totalled 1.99 inches in Roeland Park and also some large hail...Fortunately, just small enough to not cause any seriouse damage to vehicles and property, but surely enough to strip a number of leaves out of the trees...

Lance
July 3, 2008 8:20 AM
 

briankringle said:

We are 2 miles west of downtown Parkville.   Our rain guage had 6.83 inches in it this morning.  Our yard was a lake last night but all water is gone this morning.  The Viking football field must of had about 3 feet of water on it last night.
July 3, 2008 8:37 AM
 

juba said:

What happended? Yesterday you said it would rain all day today. I want it to rain can you tell it to come back it only sprinkled in Shawnee.
July 3, 2008 8:58 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

Juba - "The two hail pictures below are from Michele in Shawnee, near 49th & Switzer.  It has been quite a year for hail in our area."

A bit more than sprinkles in Shawnee.  Look at the event beyond your backyard.

The SS functioned perfectly last night!
July 3, 2008 9:07 AM
 

momof3 said:

Loved the storms but not the aftermath.  All of our tomato and pepper plants are sideways. I have been in a hurricane when I was younger and last nights storms were as close to that as I have ever seen.  The rain was completely horizontal and you couldn't see through it at all.  Very exciting.  We got 2.95 in the 24 highway and Blue Mills road area.  Everyone have a safe and fun 4th of July!
July 3, 2008 9:14 AM
 

JeriCorrell said:

Juba I don't know where in Shawnee you live but in my part of Shawnee, my grass is now a gorgeous shade of green from all the rain we got. In fact, several of us on the blog live in Shawnee and we all got rain.
July 3, 2008 9:20 AM
 

LibertyJeff said:

Good morning Gary and all.  Now that we know the rain is over thought I'd give a final update.  Here on the South side of Liberty we had 3.75" of rain.  I feel for you Brain in Parkville.  Hope you get to dry out a lot today!  I do not have a wind gauge but it was strong enough to break my 20' flag pole!  This is the second one to break due to high wind this year.  I sure hope strong weather like this is over for the year.  I'm ready for it.  Hope everyone has a safe and fun 4th of July!  One things for sure there shouldn't be any grass fires from fireworks this year!
July 3, 2008 9:22 AM
 

goodlife said:

2.5"  323rd & Hwy 7  between Garden City and Creighton.
July 3, 2008 9:33 AM
 

Zazel said:

I live in far northeast KCMO midway along a line running east, starting at the northeast corner of I-435 and ending where the line intersects I-35.  More precisely, 94* 28' 3.567" W by 39* 18' 19.594" N.  Interestingly, but not surprisingly, radar estimates show I lie in a tiny area just northeast of the heavy rain that was to my south and west and just to the south of the heavy rain that dissipated before reaching me from the north.  Nonetheless, I still received, in the 24 hour period ending at 6am this morning, 1.47 inches.  Enough water to feed the plants but not enough to cause any problems.  ~ Dave
July 3, 2008 9:46 AM
 

Retired said:

Near 76th and N. Troost, I had quarter size hail with a few 2 in. hail thrown in for good luck.  Rain total was 4.25 in.  Sorry this is not timely, but my cable went out and  I did not have the internet.

Mike in Gladstone
July 3, 2008 9:49 AM
 

bellgolfMU12 said:

1.2 inches fell overnight in sedalia.
July 3, 2008 9:52 AM
 

VdoManZ said:

July 3, 2008 10:02 AM
 

rusty1 said:

1.6 inches at smithton overnight
July 3, 2008 10:04 AM
 

Mammatus said:

There is some major damage near the woodlands  north of Johnson drive in a neighborhood. A very large tree was blown approximately 75 yards form its original location as well several other trees blown over on a house as well as fences blown down and even a couple of mailboxes blown over. It was in a relatively small area but lawn furniture is strewn all over the place. Wondering if it was a microburst. I would estimate the winds had to be over 80mph to cause that damage. I was curious because a wall cloud with some rotation was seen close to that area. One of my co-workers just told me about it. Said it sounded like Armageddon when it was happening. She swears it was a Tornado. It also blew the storm door off of her house.
July 3, 2008 10:10 AM
 

kristy said:

Hi Gary, .66 here on the se side of Lee's Summit. Kristy
July 3, 2008 10:26 AM
 

VdoManZ said:

SE Lee's Summit (50hwy and Todd George) only .6 inches
July 3, 2008 10:31 AM
 

JeriCorrell said:

Mammatus, I sent a picture of that cloud to Gary and he said it was a shelf cloud with lowering. It is the same one that is in the first picture by Josh in the blog. It was not a tornado but I am sure people who get exposed to winds and damage like that feel that it was.
July 3, 2008 10:54 AM
 

jfgdnr said:

Storm total near 128th & Mur-Len, Olathe, Ks 1.33" [All  the rain fell after 1030PM.....]
July 3, 2008 10:54 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

Based on the somewhat early and specific placement of the current activities in the tropics, I am inclined to think that the LRC may begin fading quicker and may dissolve all together in early August this year....

Last year, there was evidence of the prior LRC into September, but I don't think that will be the case this year.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html

"Today's formation of Bertha at 25° West longitude is the farthest east a tropical storm has ever formed in the Atlantic so early in the season. It is also the farthest east a tropical storm has formed in the month of July. Reliable records of Eastern Atlantic storms go back to 1967, the beginning of the geostationary satellite era."

Since - just my thought - I believe that the end/creation of each year's cycle coincides with the tropical season, if evidence trends to a average to more active tropical season, then it by rights would transport more energy poleward affecting the current patterns more profoundly and perhaps more quickly.

Just my idea..no proof at all to this.

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Scott,

According to you, the LRC began in August last year.  It is something we will have to watch, but I firmly believe it doesn't set up until sometime in October.

Gary

July 3, 2008 11:16 AM
 

ksufish said:

0.6 inches at 119th and Quivira last night
July 3, 2008 11:22 AM
 

nastyweather said:

Well I think this is also important to take note of from that link you provided:

Is the formation of Bertha a harbinger of an active hurricane season?
Probably. According the the Hurricane FAQ, "as shown in (Goldenberg 2000), if one looks only at the June-July Atlantic tropical storms and hurricanes occurring south of 22°N and east of 77°W (the eastern portion of the Main Development Region [MDR] for Atlantic hurricanes), there is a strong association with activity for the remainder of the year. According to the data from 1944-1999, total overall Atlantic activity for years that had a tropical storm or hurricane form in this region during JJ have been at least average and often times above average. So it could be said that a JJ storm in this region is pretty much a "sufficient" condition for a year to produce at least average activity."
July 3, 2008 11:22 AM
 

Eswar said:

1.28 inches last night at 151st and Mur-Len in Olathe.
July 3, 2008 11:25 AM
 

Braysmama said:

Yikes-checked my rain gauge and had 3" inches in it at my house southwest of Kingsville. I didn't think that was right, but when I checked my pool, it was overflowing.
July 3, 2008 1:15 PM
 

HailJonathan said:

I love tropical systems...would love to be in one some day.
July 3, 2008 1:16 PM
 

HailJonathan said:

I believe bertha set the same record in 1996. formed in the vicinity of just east of the virgin islands in June.
July 3, 2008 1:20 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Olathe North HS- 1.22"

Looking at the radar estimates, they were impressive!
July 3, 2008 2:15 PM
 

anch889 said:

Hello there,

Over here on the East side of Lawrence we received 0.71" of liquid precipitation in the gauge. The day before only produced 0.02" of rain.
July 3, 2008 2:28 PM
 

kcwxguy said:

Gary said - "According to you, the LRC began in August last year.  It is something we will have to watch, but I firmly believe it doesn't set up until sometime in October."

Yup - and its not just me.  ;-)

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Scott,

We will be paying very close attention this year.  I have something that will test it out!

Gary

July 3, 2008 2:40 PM
 

kcwxguy said:

Jonathan - I credit you with getting islands correct, however, Virgin and [Cape]Verde are a bit different on the globe.

Perhaps, it is about the same variance that makes the SS work.  Its in the same ocean, right?  Close enough.

LOL
July 3, 2008 2:43 PM
 

wsbgweather said:

I poured out 2.5 inches of rain from my gauge today here south of Warrensburg.  Not sure how accurate that is, but the ground is pretty soggy, so it may be right!
July 3, 2008 2:45 PM
 

kcten81 said:

3.1" at 291 and N. Woodland.
July 3, 2008 3:02 PM
 

HailJonathan said:

I know that Scott. but the location still set a record for forming the farthest east in 96 being just east of the virgin islands. I know that the Cape Verde season doesn't start until August through September.
July 3, 2008 3:33 PM
 

HailJonathan said:

I've watched the Tropical update every year daily almost until a year or so ago since a couple years before andrew so I am very knowlegeable about Hurricanes, the seasons the peak septemper 10th the second peak in mid october where the carribean becomes active. I am infatuated with hurricanes lol
July 3, 2008 3:38 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Hi all,
So what do you think the rain chances are for today, it is Thursday after all, so it HAS to rain. :-) This Thursday rain thing just amuses me.
July 3, 2008 4:00 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

Yesterday was a very fun weather day, well at least for me anyway...
We had three main rounds of thunderstorms, one in the morning, the big storm in the evening and then one last rather strong cell after midnight that night!!
Even during the middle of the day you could see the cumulus building and we had periods of big rain drops, changing to brief heavy rain, and then the sun would be shining on the soaked ground/streets!  Later I noticed an area of building cumulus to our south that kept building up and building up into a cumulonimbus and then shortly later we heard the severe storm warnings to our south on the radio, we were doing alot of running yesterday so I was not near a T.V. as much as I might have liked to have been, but sometimes it is fun being outside and watching this stuff form with your own eyes.  Later when I was home I seen the storms building to the north on the radar and move in and we went under a Severe T-storm warning a little bit before 9 p.m.  Thankfully we did not get the possible golf-ball sized hail, no hail at my house as a matter of fact, but it was still quite the storm with it's heavy downpours and lots of cloud to ground lightning.  The weird thing with that storm is that the city decided to sound the TORNADO SIRENS because apparently at the time law enforcement thought they seen what looked to them like something touching down. Probably just one of those lowerings like you guys had in K.C.   That was the third time they have sounded the sirens in St. Joe this year.  I was not really concerned though figuring that IF  the storm did produce something like that it would be very small and short lived.   Well this crazy LRC keeps rollin' with this stormy pattern.
July 3, 2008 4:44 PM
 

farmgirl said:

La Cygne recieved 3/10 of an inch.

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Thank you farmgirl!  Have a safe holiday weekend.

Gary

July 3, 2008 5:11 PM
 

DOBE500 said:

Well Gary,

Edgerton, Kansas didn't get any severe weather last night, but thunder could be heard at times, along with some flashes of the lightning that occurred during the early evening.  Later on, we received some rain around 11:00pm - midnight hour, but nothing significant.  Overall this spring and summer, we have had the most rain since the five years I have resided here.  I'll type on the blog more often....my busy schedule has gotten to me!

Andrew
July 3, 2008 6:58 PM
 

whirlygirl said:

Seen and saw are not interchangeable. I saw, I have seen. I'm sorry but that always makes me feel like nails on chalkboards . We've got a few little old rain drops in far west KCK.
July 3, 2008 6:59 PM
 

NotesInTheMargin said:

Standings for the 5th day of our week-long Independence Day Forecast Competition are complete.  Remember:  Low scores = more accurate forecast.

1.  MikeL  .........52.35
2.  RDub ..........53.6
3.  LSGolfer .....58.35
4.  BellGolf .......66.7
5.  Scott ..........67.7
6.  Notes .........69.1
7.  GaryL  ........72.3
8.  RickMcKc ... 78.95
9.  GaryB  ........102.1

The first three forecasters are still beating consensus.

For more discussion on the competition:
http://www.notesinthemargin.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=5

Of the 9 forecasters, Gary Lezak was the only to call for no precip tomorrow...I thought he'd gain some points on the rest of us, but now that there is that slight risk of rain late tomorrow night, this could be interesting!  
July 3, 2008 7:28 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

Just got our power back little while ago.  65th & State Ave.  Recorded 3.62 inches of rain.

Was a wonderful show.. hope you all got a chance to watch.
July 3, 2008 7:29 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

You have been without power since last night?
July 3, 2008 7:39 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

Since about 8:30 or so yep.  We left around 4ish to go do a load of clothes, and when we got home we found mighty POWER lol..

..suffer'd from withdrawals lol
July 3, 2008 7:51 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

That would be awful. I have woken up without power, taken a shower and tried to do make up by candlelight and flashlight and dried my hair at the hospital in the locker room with my hair dryer. I would have never made it in the olden days.
July 3, 2008 7:59 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

LOL Jeri.. it wasn't real bad actually, with the exception of no washer/dryer, cuz kids were out of clothes.  Kind of a re-enactment of the camping trip.  Glad to have it back on tho.  
July 3, 2008 8:15 PM
 

Dwxtracker said:

Gary,

That picture of the lowering doesn't really do it justice! You need to show one of these pictures too. They show the whole thing.
http://picasaweb.google.com/minomdeplume/20080702_Clouds/photo#5218589285413878818
http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/jcorrell/?action=view&current=100_0264.jpg
Really neat structure to the clouds. I hadn't ever seen anything like it before. I have some pictures too, but haven't had time to upload them yet.

David

July 3, 2008 8:44 PM
 

Matt P said:

David,
  Where were those pictures taken?  I had my kids out getting supper at McDonald's around 7:15 p.m.  The saw a little bit of rotation in the sky (no lowering, however) and noticed it getting very dark behind it.  Then the sky got dark, the rain came down in sheets, and the wind was pretty strong.  I drove to the northwest, away from where I thought the storm was heading, but you could see that the weather had hit up north pretty hard.  I hit a few puddles that had the water come over the top of our Pathfinder.  I also noticed several of the construction signs that are weighed down with sandbags had been flipped over and blown across the road near I-435 and NW Cookingham.
July 4, 2008 12:08 AM
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