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Heavy rain potential, and Hurricane Bertha

Good afternoon bloggers,

The weather pattern is still quite fascinating to us in the NBC Action News Forecast Center.  The LRC (the weather pattern that set up last October into early November continues), but it is still shifting north.  So, far the anticyclone has had very little opportunity to set up over the desert southwest, its preferred position, and is at this moment setting up over the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.  The pattern may become favorable for a larger upper high over the middle of the country later this month, and I am expecting it before the end of July.  This will be our most likely time to have a heat wave this summer, right when we are supposed to be the hottest.  We will have more on these developments soon.

In the mean time, there is a set-up somewhat similar to last Wednesday developing for Tuesday and Tuesday night.  Look below at the two maps:

This map above, valid at 7 PM Tuesday, shows the two anticyclones over the oceans.  At this time of the year, the most likely spot for the upper high to be located is over the heat of the desert southwest.  When this sets up, near the 4 corners, then the summer monsoon can bring thunderstorms to Arizona, Nevada, the deserts and mountains of Southern California, as moisture rotates around the upper high. But, this can't happen with the current set up.  So, the summer monsoon is late this year because of the LRC we are still experiencing. 

Also, notice the red circled area.  I circled our region to show the trough of vorticity stretching from the black X over northeastern Missouri, to near KCI airport, to the black X over northern Kansas.  This is valid at 7 PM Tuesday. A very weak cold front will be sitting just north of Kansas City Tuesday.  This set-up is quite similar and somewhat related to what happened last Wednesday, when 7 inches of rain fell in Parkville.  Someone could get too much rain again in the next 36 hours.  Look at the precipitation forecast from the latest GFS below:

This will, once again, be something that we have to NOWCAST during the day on Tuesday.  Our NBC Action News Weather team will be keeping you updated as this approaches.

Hurricane Bertha has formed over the open waters of the Atlantic Ocean.  Here is a picture below:

Bertha will likely stay out at sea and curve north towards Bermuda. We will track it with you over the next few days, and we will show a satellite movie of Bertha on our weathercasts tonight.

It is a hot one out there.  Have a great start to your week. We will answer your questions as time permits.  Our news set is about to be taken out, and we will likely have many distractions this week.  The brand new NBC Action News set and Forecast Center will begin construction within the next week or two, to be completed before the Olympics are on NBC next month.

Gary

Published Monday, July 07, 2008 11:02 AM by glezak

Comments

 

HailJonathan said:

Bertha is a Sexy Thang!
July 7, 2008 11:28 AM
 

lezakEF5 said:

I think it is amazing that that system formed that far west this early in the season, but based on the pattern now, it seems like anything can happen.

Have you ever used the LRC to attempt to predict an upcoming Hurricane season?

Bertha is looking good!


Alex

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Alex,

I haven't used the LRC for hurricane tracking, but I do believe there is a pattern that forms each year that hurricanes tend to follow.  Using the LRC may be a factor, but it is something I haven't concentrated on.

Gary

July 7, 2008 11:37 AM
 

bewild79 said:

wow jonathan!! lol
July 7, 2008 11:40 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

As far as the expected central ridge...yup, it is coming...

http://community.nbcactionnews.com/blogs/weatherblog/archive/2008/5/20.aspx

It certainly takes the fun out of things when you know it is coming.  So, based on 56 days, it should be here next week.

If it were a 50 day pattern, it would be here this Wed.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/06/fp0_066.shtml

Clearly, that won't happen, so lets look at next week -

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/06/fp0_240.shtml

While, not an Omega setup at this time, we do see the trough/ridge/trough set up.  This will bring us into a heatwave.

Get ready next week for an oven.  With a S/SW flow bringing in the warm gulf air along with 850mb temps nearing 27C - hot hot hot.

And, if you are scoring at home, this setup is the setup of a more dominant western troughing opposed to the NW flow we have seen quite a bit lately.

If we remember back in May, there was discussion about the dryer streak...well...we are in a similar pattern.  Short of a stray vort here and there, it is very localized when it does rain. This was during the very dominant NW flow.

Only when we get more into the western trough stage do we have a better chance of widespread rain.

That should follow the ridging pattern initiating next week, but only after some very hot days.  Look back in May, we had the NW flow, then the ridging then the Omega[beginning of western trough], the monsoon in the last few days of May into the first week in June.

So, to recap - next week the central ridging begins, as the flow regime begins to shift, we then go to more of a SW flow and the ridging builds.  We will see more of a trough/ridge/trough pattern for about 10 days after it initiates.  Toward the end of the ridging pattern, I would not be suprised to see the Omega try to come back for the finale. [ok. that is a bit dramatic, but created as the western troughing builds and the NE troughing blocks]

At this time, we may see some of the hottest temps of the year.  After than, near the last few days of July into the first week of August, I am expecting to see it get wetter again in the SW flow.

While not reliable, here is the Omega potential after the initial week of ridging...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/06/fp0_384.shtml

Also, notice the 300mb and 500mb charts regarding the troughing in the west deepening...

That pesky desert SW high pressure is just having a heck of a time getting settled.  I had wondered if the SW troughing would occur if that high pressure established, and it seems the troughing may be winning out!

The LRC is such an amazing thing...to watch the patterns in motion and to see where things are likely to occur...insane!

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Scott,

The looping that you have now been doing with the upper flow, is something I have been doing for a long time.  Remember, I scan in every 500 mb chart.  Anyway, I am still in the roughly 50-54 day cycle.  56 still somewhat fits, but overall I am not convinced that it is centereda round that number.  Jeff and I are going to look at it a bit closer this afternoon.  So, give me some time, and let's discuss this later on.

I am on my way to talk to 2,000 kids at Hale Arena right now, with Stormy.

Gary

July 7, 2008 11:50 AM
 

Trentonite said:

This winter when we were dealing with storm after storm, models typically missed the "target area" generally to the south of where they actually lined up.  Have you noticed this happening during these past few wet months?  If so, when you look at the projected rainfall amounts above, do you forsee anything that would move it north or south of where the model indicated?

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During the past three weeks, the models have not predicted our rainfall patterns well at all.  There is a south bias to the precipitation of late on the models.

Gary

July 7, 2008 12:02 PM
 

sedsinkc said:

So the potential is there for another heavy rain event tomorrow nite.  Since I'm off tomorrow nite, the heavy storms will probably miss my location north of the River.  Maybe Johnson and Jackson Counties or points further south get the big rains this time....depends on where the front is when the storms fire.  Since today's biggest threat in the area N of us where severe storms may be is strong winds and not large hail, perhaps the local area will also be spared the large hail tomorrow.  See the following graphic re today's hail and wind threat from the SPC:  http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html
July 7, 2008 12:13 PM
 

twinkiekid said:

Jonathan,

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or hurricane in this instance.
July 7, 2008 12:41 PM
 

kcwxguy said:

Gary, yes - I know that you save each map. I also know that you look at the pattern in motion over a two or three week period in comparison.  

I picked up this concept from you, borrowed the technical idea from Notes, and put it together in an AVI format.

Seemed to kill several birds with one rock as it showed the cycle in a more motion oriented way beyond map to map, was portable/sharable, and was easy to construct and manipulate in using the controls

I believe you do it in a somewhat manual manner, which is fine..but for the sake of communicating to a large audience, putting them together in a .avi/.mov or something similar is easier to express/communicate what you are thinking vs. pic to pic.

Odd comment since I wasn't even talking about the looping..LOL.

As far as the 50 vs. 56, I will try to communicate this, but may have challenges making my ideas make sense [what else is new?]...

In watching this thing all year, my initial take in late October was 56 days.  

Here is what I thought the first week of November...

"27-Aug to 24-Sep Phase 1 Cycle 1
25-Sep to 23-Oct Phase 2

24-Oct to 21-Nov Phase 1 Cycle 2
22-Nov to 20-Dec Phase 2

21-Dec to 18-Jan Phase 1 Cycle 3
19-Jan to 16-Feb Phase 2

17-Feb to 16-Mar Phase 1 Cycle 4
17-Mar to 14-Apr Phase 2

15-Apr to 13-May Phase 1 Cycle 5
14-May to 11-Jun Phase 2

12-Jun to 10-Jul Phase 1 Cycle 6
11-Jul to 8-Aug Phase 2

Phase 1 is dry and Phase 2 is wet. I propose the cycle to be 56 days."

[Yes I have realized the date ranges above to be a day off..oops - it reflects 57 days]

Oddly, here is the results thus far - all of the cycles above matched dry/wet except for two phases per KMCI CF6 data.  And the second was this month [July] with the monsoon on July 2nd.

Pretty cool how the LRC can be this close...[and oddly found in late October?]

After watching it more in Feb, I got sucked into the concensus of 50-52.  I was able to "accept" this as there seems to be an odd little repetition at the end of the cycles.

It is this seeing double that got me out of whack for awhile.  But in looking at the whole thing over a longer period, I got back on 56 as I could see the little repetitive pattern in the cycle itself.

I am not sure I explained this well, but it is a wierd little nuance in this years pattern, based on my observations...

We can discuss more I hope after you do your review.
July 7, 2008 1:13 PM
 

Alden said:

wow... I didn't expect that Johnathan.
July 7, 2008 1:14 PM
 

mamaof3girls said:

Hello everyone!! I never thought I would say this after our very wet spring but I need some rain!! I am hoping that nice rain event for tomorrow sinks my way some. July so far has been a good one....I am sure when a heat wave or the 100's decide to arrive it will be just in time for school to start. Errrr!! I am having to get a new roof AGAIN...just got one 2 years ago. That 10 minute hail event with golf balls did a number on my roof, the vents, screens and back porch.  Spring was exciting but I welcome some boring hot weather, :o) Have a great day. The pool is calling us.
Monica
Pleasanton, KS
July 7, 2008 2:34 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

Oven season is here, well it had to come sometime.  Tomorrow will be interesting to watch.
July 7, 2008 2:34 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

I need rain too. And I need someone that knows how to fix the icemaker line. Grrr here too. My home warranty won't cover the icemaker line.
July 7, 2008 2:49 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

So what are our chances for pop up tstorms this afternoon? I am here in Lee's Summit watching some clouds drift by.
Audra
July 7, 2008 2:59 PM
 

kcwxguy said:

Wow..does this look familiar?

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/images/gfs_300_360l.gif

Jonathan, I figured you would find this more attactive than a mere hurricane...

LOL
July 7, 2008 3:02 PM
 

DOBE500 said:

It is a hot one out here in Edgerton.  According to my SUV thermometer, it has gotten to 94 degrees.  When going on errands today, Overland Park was around 93 around 12:30pm.........just hope everyone's A/C is workin' with no problems!


Andrew
July 7, 2008 3:08 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

The clouds look like they are building here between Lee's Summit and Lake Lotawana. They are definatley growning and building W and N or us (of course above us too), possiable S of us too, my daughter couldn't tell, too many trees in the way.
Audra
July 7, 2008 3:39 PM
 

marlina10 said:

I for one am hoping for a heat wave next week that lasts into next weekend. We are going on a camping trip and would rather have a heat wave than it be cold and rainy when we have to sleep in tents!
July 7, 2008 4:40 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

They are having tornado warnings in northern ND
July 7, 2008 5:58 PM
 

jacob said:

Where do we go to see the LIVE shots of the new set?
July 7, 2008 6:40 PM
 

Alden said:

Jacob, I don't think they have it up yet but they will soon.
July 7, 2008 6:51 PM
 

jacob said:

Thanks Alden!  I can't wait until it's done!
July 7, 2008 6:54 PM
 

jacob said:

Gary,

Will the new weather center be bigger than the old one?

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Jacob,

Bigger, and better organized! 

Gary

July 7, 2008 6:57 PM
 

juba said:

Hurricane Bertha is a beutiful hurricane. Looks fits every discription of what would happen a little later in the year. I don't want a lot of rain but I like t-storms! My backyard is finally turning green now that the rain has slowed. The most I can tollerate is 1" of rain.
July 7, 2008 7:17 PM
 

juba said:

 Recently in: Bertha is a "Major Hurricane." This morning the NWS said there was a 10% chance of this happening.
July 7, 2008 7:23 PM
 

juba said:

WE need a new newscast soon
July 7, 2008 8:48 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

it looks like a stormy night is on the horizon...good...i like stormy nights......

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Murph,

I love stormy nights too!  But, I really love it when it isn't severe.  A nice thunderstorm would be great.  Hopefully there won't be too much flooding, of course!

Gary

July 7, 2008 9:12 PM
 

will5304 said:

Looks like the GFS has backed off its rain estimate. I could go for 1-2 inches, but anything more will be unwelcome

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The GFS actually increased its rainfall amounts on the latest run. It will be an interesting Tuesday.

Gary

July 7, 2008 10:44 PM
 

HailJonathan said:

Scott I still think  Bertha is a sexy thang...but no I don't think your Omega Block is sexy. That "THANG" is PUTRID!
July 8, 2008 12:12 AM
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