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i would love to know, we have lake plans in the morning till about 3. Hopefully they will not be canceled or too chilly.

That old tropical storm that hit us a few weeks ago.

Gary,

You look great walking those dogs!  I'm hoping there is rain headed our way.  Lawrence has missed out on recent scattered showers.

Oh the suspense, I'll be gone tomarrow at six flags! If something exciting happens I hope there will be pictures! Won't be back til' around noon on sunday!

Hola, Eduardo....?

It seems as though it's been more than a few minutes though :)

Published Friday, August 08, 2008 2:41 PM by glezak
If it has I didn't know Jeremy was with you too!

yes i am wondering what is going on. i weather page says 60% chance of rain on the 7 day outlook but on the bottom it says 20%. High temp of 74, not sounding good for a swim day on the lake

Well considering this springs swap meet at the Woodlands, and the snow and sleet we dealt with then, tomorrow we will have a rainstorm. Amazing, let us know something Gary......

Gary,

Is that a high in the 70's over the weekend and low's in the 60's as far as the eye can see?

Is it August or April?  I love it!  Can't wait to check out the new set tonight.  I trust ya Gary, but I hope this isn't a big letdown.  With the huge buildup that its received the last 3+ weeks it better be good!

Tim

Gary, what defines a "cold rain?"

Main Entry: cold  
Pronunciation: \ˈkōld\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English ceald, cald; akin to Old High German kalt cold, Latin gelu frost, gelare to freeze
Date: before 12th century
1 a: having or being a temperature that is uncomfortably low for humans <it is cold outside today> <a cold drafty attic> b: having a relatively low temperature or one lower than normal or expected <the bath water has gotten cold>

Here is a little treasure hunt.

First, I start the journey with the HPC, and their last guidance for Ed.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/tcpat5.html

We start with where Ed was as of Wednesday at 10PM.

THE
REMNANT LOW ASSOCIATED WITH EDOUARD WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 33.6
NORTH...LONGITUDE 99.8 WEST OR 80 MILES...129 KM WEST-SOUTHWEST OF
WICHITA FALLS TEXAS AND 175 MILES...282 KM WEST-NORTHWEST OF
DALLAS TEXAS.

And now where was it heading?

THE DISTURBANCE IS MOVING TO THE NORTHWEST AT APPROXIMATELY 13
MPH...21 KM/HR. THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 12
HOURS.

Given that track and the time elapsed, the moisture/energy would head NW from TX.  But..did it really go to Wyoming?  With the ridge pushing the flow in reverse due to the upper level high flow?

How about an alternative theory?

The next leg in our journey goes to the HPC again, but in another spot…

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/qpferd.html

Certainly is a lot of moisture and PW values in the return flow…seems as though the moisture associated with Ed stayed a bit south?

Here is an interesting tidbit from DDC NWS in their discussion…

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=DDC&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1

“ALSO OF NOTE WAS AN AXIS
OF FAIRLY HIGH DEWPOINTS SITUATED ACROSS THE PANHANDLES INTO EXTREME
SOUTHWEST KANSAS INTO SOUTHEAST COLORADO.”

So..based on all this, I think “Ed” did not make it to Wyoming, but instead made it to SE Colorado.  With the stationary boundary in place and the disturbance aloft coming in along it…I think it is the moisture from Ed that with contribute to the rain event.

As far as “Then, just a little of Dolly was left as she drifted back into the Gulf of Mexico early this week and became Tropical Storm Edouard.”  I doubt this now.  Seeing images of the genesis of Eduardo in the Gulf while Dolly was overhead in KS makes this hard to believe.  Sure, the moisture might have helped develop Ed, but his genesis was there prior to moisture from Dolly coming down into the Gulf.

Oh..and this is what might be thought of as the “cool” rain…

“A WEAK UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL DRIFT SLOWLY TOWARD THE
SOUTHERN PLAINS AND INTERACT WITH A STATIONARY FRONT TO PRODUCE AN
INCREASING AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN
PLAINS ON SATURDAY.  NORTH OF THE FRONT...RAIN WILL FALL AND
TEMPERATURES WILL BE UNUSUALLY COOL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR.
“

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/pmdspd.html

Gosh..I love this NW flow that is keeping the temps down.  On time as expected!


LOL - Rdub.

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You read that first statement, and then track the disturbed area northwest at 13 mph and then turn it north and there it is in southwest Wyoming today!

Gary

Wow, what strange effects Gary? It is amazing! what goes around comes around even in the weather world. As long as the temps stay down, and we can chew away at the remainder of summer heat, it is one day closer to fall weather and temps.

RDub, thanks for the education on the meaning, pronunciation, spelling, and usage of the word "cold."  How long did that take you because it was very thorough, not to mention hilarious.  I would have responded sooner, but I've been laughing too hard!  Silly me, I actually thought that there might be a weather phenomenon called a "cold rain."

No... there has been an area of disturbed weather in the intermountain west for some time. This is what is coming out of Wyoming. Edouard's remains never made it futher north than NE New Mexico.

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Ed,

I am not so sure!  We watched it on satellite, and I believe that it is at least somewhat part of Edouard, Ed!  Maybe it is 10to 20% Edouard, but I think it is just a bit of a combination. 

Either way, it is a tough forecast for Saturday.

Gary

LOL, guess I got my smart--- on today. Perhaps this highly technical info will be helpful on the subject of cold rain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmoPBe_frvM

Well, that is just plain weird, maybe "crazy 8 day" has something to do with it, LOL.
Today has been a calm, warm, lazy day with cumulus drifting around here in St. Joe, it will be interesting to see how tomorrow plays out.

Great pictures Gary.  We're back from NYC, instead of kenneling the dogs (Hoss, Popeye and Windy) we have a friend come and house/dog sit for us.  She has a dog too, so there is always an adjustment period when a new dog is in the mix. The Dog Whisperer definitely has alot of helpful hints, especially about understanding the pack mentality.  The weather in NYC was amazing, absolutely perfect for sightseeing and Yankee Stadium.  It was our 5th trip to NYC and it usually rains at least one day we are there.  Typically it is a brief shower and we can usually outrun it by jumping on the subway and heading North or South.  It's good to be back in Kansas, gotta love the humidity and sun here =), and wide open spaces and seeing the sky and being far, far from crowds and traffic noise.  Great vacation, we'll probably go back again next year.  Sure hope you're right about the rain, as much as I hate rain we really need it here in Paola, everything is starting to dry up and turn brown.  Leaves are falling off the trees in droves and the foundation is shrinking a bit.  So I'll concede...bring on the rain!
Have a great evening!
--deb

Why debut the new set on one of the least-watched broadcasts of the week - particularly such a late Friday show?  You should have done it at 5 or 6 tonight - right before the Opening Ceremony of the olympics...I'll be asleep tonight!  

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Notes,

I wanted us to debut the set at 6 PM, but I didn't get to make the decision.  And, the ratings tonight should be one of our highest of the year, if not the highest.  Hopefully NBC has it set up to have the most exciting part right before 11 PM.

Gary

Whahoo, the percentages are going up for rain Sat. through Sat. night! I would love some rain. Let's keep our fingers crossed that it does not go North or South of us.
Audra in Lee's Summit

Right before the 6pm news ended, the TV frose and everything and I had to turn down a channel to watch the rest in Standard Definition. I am still having the same trouble. I can't get KSHB-TV in HD. I don't know if this is my problem or the stations problem.
Can't wait to see the new set.

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It is likely your problem, as I have had no other emails or messages saying that it is happening to them.  Good luck.

Gary

Stormdog - Gary, my last post was referring to the shorter term computer models, especially in Summer and late Spring - 5 day forecasts I feel are a waste of time, except to provide what "could happen" not what will.  Your LRC is worth a lot, and I haven't taken away my support of it.  Just the 5 day forecasts and computer models often aren't exact, or sometimes even close to it.

A blog or two ago, I believe I ventured the thought that "what if Eduard does a similar track to Dolly" - kinda fits a reocurring cycle in  a way - this is what seems to be the way this year is for tropical systems that venture far into TX etc...


Later,
Dog

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Dog,

Thanks.  5 day forecasts aren't worthless, you just have to know how to use them, as a trend.

Gary

Hello Gary and the weather team..

Rain is the last thing I need for Saturday.    I'm bowling in the Kansas City Big Guy / Little Guy tournament at Aarons Family Fun Center in Belton.   Cool / Cold damp air and rain makes for sticky approaches.   Would like the weather clear and warm with temperatures mid 80's...

Thanks
Bill

OK, what do we think for northeast early morning?  I'm hauling furniture from Polo to Warrensburg for my son in college.  Do I tarp it or not?

Wow, nice graphics on the precip. Looks great on my new HDTV! :)

Gary I love the new set...you are spoiled!

I love the set Gary! Looks so professional!

Set looks good -- great looking set for great looking team :)

i think the set is great!  it looks really great on the HDTV.

Awesome weather area Gary & Team!  My wife and I look forward to watching many more HDTV Powercasts from your new set.  Have you brought in your dogs to approve the new set yet?

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Thank you so much, and thank you everyone for sharing this experience with us tonight.  It is only the beginning!  And, Breezy and Stormy haven't checked it out yet.  Probably next Friday for Stormy.

Gary

Gary, I love the look of the new weather center with all of those high definition televisions showing various maps, radars, etc. I wish my basement could look like that to be able to follow the weather and approaching storms.

Hi Gary,

Love the new set. Should make watching the weather that much more interesting!

Nice new set...hopefully it will help you provide even better forecasts then the ones you already provide the local viewing area.

I love the new set it looks great on my HDTV. The weather maps also look very vivid.

Stu

AMAZING, a very cool and crisp set I think it will help you guys be as competitive as possible!
Although right now I am not happy with "Powercast", 0.03 of rain for St. Joe;)

I'm impressed with the new HD set and the Wx graphics available to you, Gary,,,,Especially with the latest Wx Data that you have at an 11:00 PM broadcast.

Now this is the way to watch the news!! Especially the weather. I love the new set and it looks great in HD. I look forward to tuning in more! On a side note, i would like to order some dry weather during the Royals game tomorrow night. It can rain all it wants before and after.

Gary is the man!

Now this is the way to watch the news!! Especially the weather. I love the new set and it looks great in HD. I look forward to tuning in more! On a side note, i would like to order some dry weather during the Royals game tomorrow night. It can rain all it wants before and after.

I like the NAM much better... please be closer to the NAM, fingers crossed.  The GFS is way to close for comfort on the eastern edge.

i love how when gary said"Get your comments in and the first one on the blog will be the one i read" everybody bombarded the blog with their comments. very funny!

o and by the way gary, it was a tie in my eyes between me and kansaspatriot. same time 11:26 PM

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Randy,

I get it to the exact second.  You missed it by 6 seconds.  Six lousy seconds.  Anyway, I would have read more if we just had time.

You are awesome!  Have a great weekend.

Gary

All I have to say is WOW! What an amazing job the crews did and all you guys did to get ready for the new set.

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Alden,

Thanks!  We will be showing a lot more of the views and how we will use the weather center next week.

Gary

G-Man: You da man! A little Bodean love comin your way...

Great graphics.   It really is amazing in HD!!!    I look forward to seeing more in the near future.

It was just my time randy....it was just my time.

Um ... Randy, KansasPatriot (and Gary), I believe it was MY time. I posted at 11:26 also and BEFORE either of yours. So, I'm really, really mad that mine didn't get read!

Not. :-)

Keep up the good work, Gary!