NBC Action Communities

Blogs, Forums, Photo Galleries and Event Calendars
Welcome to NBC Action Communities Sign in | Join | Help
in
Back to NBCActionNews.com Home Blogs Forums Photos Calendar

NBC Action Weather Blog

Thunderstorm threat is about to increase

Good afternoon bloggers,

It is a hot and humid day with the downtown airport already reporting 92 degrees with a heat index near 100 at 1 PM.  This heat will not last long as a cold front is continuing to move steadily southeast.  Here is the 1 PM position of the front below:

Look at the dewpoints (the green numbers).  They are pooling and increasing near the frontal zone.  And, the dewpoints are holding into the 70s just north of the front which may play a factor into creating post frontal convection (thunderstorms and showers).  We haven't had too many days with a set up like this in 2008.  I can think of one day that thunderstorms formed near the front and then around sunset thunderstorms developed north of the front in the less capped environment.  And, with the moisture holding behind the front we may end up in a zone where thunderstorms develop between the 850 mb front and the surface front.  This would place the KC metro area in that zone.  We will just have to wait and see how this develops this evening.  We need the rain, so I am hoping it organizes and brings at least a few of us some nice rainfall amounts.  We have a 70% chance of this happening for a reason.  There is still a 30% chance this doesn't quite develop this way leaving us dry. 

With today's heat and humidity and no earlier thunderstorms the atmosphere will have a lot of energy ready to be released.  The thunderstorms will likely be electrically active and possibly severe with the main threat being some isolated spots with large hail and damaging winds.

Gary

Published Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:49 PM by glezak

Comments

 

angvic00 said:

Hi Gary,

I guess the contest ends this weekend, right?  Where do we stand now as far as 90 degree days and highest temp?

******************

Highest temp 97 and add one more 90 day on for today.  High as of 1 p.m. has been 90 at KCI.

Jeremy

August 28, 2008 1:47 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

NOOOO! Oh well! I'll try next time! Can I say that I said 11 90s and it count? ;)

******************

Andrew,

You made a great forecast!  You were closer than Gary, Brett, Jeff, and me:)

Jeremy

August 28, 2008 2:09 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

the 850 mbar front looks like it is lighting up to the north, I'm assuming since the surface front is to our south and the line of thunderstorms is still well to our north.! Let the games begin;)
August 28, 2008 2:20 PM
 

RickMckc said:

Nice analysis, Gary. Let's hope it holds together and rains really good!
August 28, 2008 2:36 PM
 

MamaTSG said:

Gary's comment at the end of the blog entry regarding the lack of earlier thunderstorms that could have siphoned off the energy for tonight's potential activity made me wonder whether there is a tropical corollary.  Specifically, is it possible that a potential five tropical disturbances in the Atlantic basin all at once could rob some of them of the energy they need to explode into monster storms?  Or is Gustav already too far along to have his energy sucked away before he blossoms into a major hurricane?  I have always been fascinated by tropical weather, but my enthusiasm has been dampened somewhat in the last couple of years by several mission trips I've taken to the Mississippi Gulf Coast to help in the rebuilding efforts after Katrina.  The devastation of the storm and the obstacles the survivors have had to surmount in order to rebuild their lives has been humbling; it's gut-wrenching to think that all their efforts could be undone or seriously set back this weekend.  
August 28, 2008 2:54 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

Okay, we've got an MD on top of us from SPC.  Development of storms after 21Z (4pm) and WW likely required.  Probably STW until 11pm.
August 28, 2008 2:57 PM
 

Bob in OP said:

Weather Team,

Presently 95 degrees [my predicted high] at my casa in south OP. I may squeeeze out one more degree. It looks like front has passed or is over KCI. The temp there is down to 89.

Gustav: Near hurrican status now. Latest 5-day cone has shifted back to the east by about 100 miles. Interesting! Perhaps the trough about to effect us has a bearing on the path of Gistav?

Bob
August 28, 2008 2:59 PM
 

bewild79 said:

What time is 21z?
August 28, 2008 3:01 PM
 

drpostel said:

once again ... exceptional temperature gradient between OP and the NOrthland

@3pm   97 LWC, 96 IXD, 95 OJC, 94 MKC

and the rathole MCI ?

90

real weather or instrument error, i doubt such a tight long-lived N-S gradient has been observed in recent years
August 28, 2008 3:03 PM
 

Bob in OP said:

I posted too soon. We just hit 96 here...

Bob ;^)
August 28, 2008 3:04 PM
 

slim said:

Is the line that is to the north of us now, what will affect us?
August 28, 2008 3:21 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

STW #871 effective unti 11:00.  All of KC area.
August 28, 2008 3:22 PM
 

DaveC said:

t-storm watch
August 28, 2008 3:23 PM
 

mattmaisch said:

Severe Thunderstorm Watch for the entire viewing area just issued.
August 28, 2008 3:23 PM
 

JPnKC said:

Thunderstorm Watch till 11PM- ALL of the metro
August 28, 2008 3:24 PM
 

beckysma said:

I could have told you by my headache-o-meter that it was going to storm, even before reading the update.

August 28, 2008 3:31 PM
 

beckysma said:

Besides, it's Thursday!  Remember eariler in the season, seemed like storms always came on Thursday.

:)
August 28, 2008 3:33 PM
 

LSMOWatcher said:

Do we have an ETA for the storms yet?  I am so looking forward to a good thunderstorm.  It's been awhile since we had one.
August 28, 2008 3:38 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

Here is our watch probability tables:

PROBABILITY TABLE:
PROB OF 2 OR MORE TORNADOES    :  20%
PROB OF 1 OR MORE STRONG /F2-F5/ TORNADOES  : < 2%
PROB OF 10 OR MORE SEVERE WIND EVENTS   :  40%
PROB OF 1 OR MORE WIND EVENTS >= 65 KNOTS  :  20%
PROB OF 10 OR MORE SEVERE HAIL EVENTS    :  50%
PROB OF 1 OR MORE HAIL EVENTS >= 2 INCHES    :  30%
PROB OF 6 OR MORE COMBINED SEVERE HAIL/WIND EVENTS :  80%

&&
ATTRIBUTE TABLE:
MAX HAIL /INCHES/  : 2.5
MAX WIND GUSTS SURFACE /KNOTS/ : 60
MAX TOPS /X 100 FEET/   : 550
MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR /DEGREES AND KNOTS/ : 27025
PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION  : NO
August 28, 2008 3:38 PM
 

BoiseStateFootballFan said:

I dont know you guys, remember that we lived on an island here a few months back and storms had a habit of "diverging" or going around us..... I'll go WAY out on a limb here and say KCI and the Northland get missed altogether, downtown gets a .10th, south Olathe gets the bulk of the rain.
August 28, 2008 3:52 PM
 

KansasPatriot said:

Lets get it on Kansas City! Alright! Finally some fun weather....it has been a while hasnt it?


Can you imagine what this blog would be like if we lived in southern Louisiana right now?
August 28, 2008 3:53 PM
 

BoiseStateFootballFan said:

I feel like I'm at the casino here odds and all ... could you imagine all the weather enthusiasts (including me) down at the boat if they had a weather book that worked like a sports book! HA what FUN!
August 28, 2008 3:57 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

Looks like the line up north by the borders of KS, NE and MO is starting to expand.

I'd say ETA around 6:30 or 7 perhaps?  Thats for that line if it does develop this direction.  It also depends on if anything forms in front of it in this area.

Pete
August 28, 2008 4:00 PM
 

WinterTracker said:

I am not too excited with how our weather looks today. I am more interested in what the tropics are doing. What's the weather team's latest opinion on the system? Gustav just ran in to Jamaica and could be further weakened by the mountains there. With the way this storm keeps running over all these islands, will it have time to become a major hurricane? I am just confused by all the reports on Gustav "possibly becoming a major hurricane" and "Gustav may be further weakened by land interaction". Does that make sense?
August 28, 2008 4:00 PM
 

HummerSeeker said:

I think WinterTracker Gustav weakens over land, then over the open water/warmth it strenghthens again.  So I guess it could get stronger.  Depends on how many islands it runs into I guess!  I think it will have plenty of time over open water to strengthen.  But yea - I'm keeping a closer eye on that than our storm!  LOL
August 28, 2008 4:08 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

Once Gustav passes Jamacia, a majority of the forecasts show it going straight into the Gulf of Mexico, which it could without touching any more land.  But, as with all hurricane forecasts, it is never exact.  If it scoots closer to the land of Cuba, then it will remain weaker and by the time it hits the gulf, it may only strenghten to say, Cat 1 or Cat 2.  But, if it is unobstructed after Jamaica, it could strenghten to Cat 1 or 2 on its way to the gulf then higher once it gets in the gulf.  This this what their major concern is.

Pete
August 28, 2008 4:12 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

The air is very still and humid here in St. Joe with a dark sky to the north with thunder rumbling... the anticipation;)
August 28, 2008 4:27 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Gosh darn it, under a serve thunderstorm watch. I am so through with the weather this year!!!
August 28, 2008 4:32 PM
 

juba said:

I still think it will blow over, miss us, LIKE IT always does. Just meso-rain. Been way to dry lately.

EFFECTIVE THIS THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 325 PM UNTIL
  1100 PM CDT.
 
  HAIL TO 2.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70
  MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.
 
  THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 85
  STATUTE MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM 15 MILES WEST OF
  TOPEKA KANSAS TO 60 MILES EAST NORTHEAST OF KIRKSVILLE MISSOURI.
  FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH
  OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU1).
 
  REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE
  FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
  AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
  THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
  AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY
  DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.
 
  DISCUSSION...AIR MASS AHEAD OF WEAK COLD FRONT IS NOW VERY UNSTABLE
  AND WEAKLY CAPPED.  THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP RAPIDLY BOTH ALONG
  AND TO THE N OF THE FRONT REMAINDER OF AFTERNOON.  WITH SHEAR OF
  25-30KT PRIMARY THREAT WILL BE MULTICELLULAR WITH ISOLATED
  SUPERCELLS.  LARGE HAIL AND LOCAL DAMAGING WINDS WILL BE THE MAIN
  CONCERN AS STORMS DEVELOP E AND SE THRU THE EVENING.
 
  AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT
  TO 2.5 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60
  KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 550. MEAN STORM
  MOTION VECTOR 27025
August 28, 2008 4:32 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Gary,

When you mentioned the storms will electirically active. How can you tell this...just curious??

Storms are looking pretty strong...I hope many places get a lot of rain, and maybe KCI will end up above average?!?!?!?

Alex
August 28, 2008 4:33 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Why can't we just get good old fashioned rain stroms this year instead of the strong winds and hail. I'm still doing repairs from the June 2nd storm. Been on a three month waitng list just to get the old barn roof fixed. It's still just perched on the old rafters so if we get 70 MPH winds I'm afraid it will just tear off!!!

Just got a new house roof too.  Grrrrr.
August 28, 2008 4:40 PM
 

C in Raymore said:

oh man i am so hoping for rain but I am thinking they will slide right by us. oh please rain come to KC!
August 28, 2008 4:45 PM
 

farmgirl said:

A couple cells blossoming just north of Johnson County.
August 28, 2008 5:09 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Can someone post where the front is located right now?
August 28, 2008 5:10 PM
 

Stormdog said:

Stormdog - Don't forget the BSHE (Blue Springs Hole Effect)  I am leading toward nada here.   Hope I am wrong.

Dog
August 28, 2008 5:20 PM
 

Alden said:

I am so mad! I think anyways. I have STRONG feelings that it will not rain at my house tonight!
August 28, 2008 5:33 PM
 

weatherwyco said:

Yeah I am thinking nothing here in western wyco tonight.
August 28, 2008 5:36 PM
 

BoiseStateFootballFan said:

Look at this! Latest radar looks like some cells "jumped" KC!
August 28, 2008 5:39 PM
 

mstauss said:

We recently had a 33mph wind gust from the North and the temperature has dropped more than 15 degrees up here by Trimble, MO.  No rain yet, it looks like it's going just to the North of us.  Semi-Live updates and a webcam can be seen here.  http://www.houseofstauss.com/weather/wx.html
August 28, 2008 5:41 PM
 

Kimberly said:

Had to leave my son's football practice early. When we heard the first rumbles of thunder, the coach wanted to keep going for a bit. Then we saw lightning, and all of us said practice was over! This was in Overland Park and 95th and Roe
August 28, 2008 5:43 PM
 

whirlygirl said:

I got lotsa rain, a little wind and a few thunder runbles. Nothing severe, nothing active, just , you know, rain.
August 28, 2008 5:50 PM
 

sheldan said:

Hail in Raytown with pretty good rainfall for a short period
August 28, 2008 5:50 PM
 

PlatteCityMatt said:

KCI forcefield in full effect....Not a drop here....thunder...but no rain. Why am I surprised???
August 28, 2008 5:53 PM
 

jules7373 said:

Good rain, little hail, quite a bit of lightning in Lees Summit right now
August 28, 2008 5:58 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Yea, it is raining here in Lee's Summit. At 5:17 it was getting dark and stormy looking W of the 50 & 470. We drove home and within 10 minutes we started to hear thunder. It is pouring here now with winds. The cell just appeared suddenly. The rain will make pulling weeds easier though so that is good. Good luck everybody else with the rain.
Audra
August 28, 2008 5:59 PM
 

mstauss said:

Looks like my web host is having some problems.  Sorry for the error messages for anyone that clicked on my link above.
August 28, 2008 6:02 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Wow, it is getting really loud here in between Lee's Summit, Blue Springs and Lake Lotawana. We are under a severe tstorm warning. There must be wind shear because the clouds outside the window are moving towards the cell. weird! I swear it almost looks like rotation, the clouds looks like they don't know which way to move.
Audra
August 28, 2008 6:07 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

It is raining so hard and the wind is blowing so hard it almost looks like fog outside. Tons of bolts with thunder almost at the same time, very loud! The laptop is unplugged from power even though we have surge protectors on the house. I think we might have had some hail as the rain once in a while sounds louder than normal on the skylight.
Audra in Lee's Summit
August 28, 2008 6:16 PM
 

mdg2fast4u said:

new post!
August 28, 2008 6:18 PM
 

C in Raymore said:

wow this has been some crazy rain, its been pouring yippee for rain!
August 28, 2008 6:45 PM
Anonymous comments are disabled
 

This Blog

Post Calendar

<August 2008>
SuMoTuWeThFrSa
272829303112
3456789
10111213141516
17181920212223
24252627282930
31123456

Syndication

Inergize Digital Media This site powered by Inergize Digital Media. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect the views of this station.