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Wow it is cold out Gary.  At 6:09 when you were telling everybody it was 22 at KCI it was 28 here in McLouth KS.  We have puddles of water in the driveway but now they are ice.  But it is a beautiful sky this morning.  Good thing the weather pattern is challenging.  It has been so-so for so long you guys could have gotten complacent.  A little low level cloud cover up in Atchison County this morning.  If the sky is clear this evening the Space Station/Shuttle combo will be visible at 5:56PM and 7:28PM real low on the south and west horizon tonight for all of 20 seconds.  Best night would be Frday evening at 5:36PM when it is 41 degrees above the horizon traveling SSW to ENE for 5 minutes.  But cloud cover will be in the way won't it.  Well be patient young man, you will get your snow one day soon enough.

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It may be clear this evening.  Thanks for the information. 

Gary

Yes cold, and frosty this morning here in St. Joe, my digital thermometer had 25.9 when I got up this morning, and I think Rosecrans had 21 degrees, tis' the season.

I am looking forward to the Thanksgiving forecast as we are traveling to Sioux Falls over the break. Last year in December, we got caught in a snowstorm on the way home through northern Iowa and I really don't want to do that again. Congrats on the new LRC web site. I look forward to my morning and lunch break reading material! :P

Pat

It definitely was cold out this morning. We had to turn the heater up a couple notches so it could keep up with the chillier temperatures. It would be great if we saw some snow this weekend again! If not, I'll just look forward to your Winter Forecast. Please give me a reason to do the snow dance! =)

hmm... I know for one thing, we are getting into the active pattern of October. I think??

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Andrew,

We aren't yet. Remember, when you look at the computer models, that's what they are computer models.  Right now we are not in the October part of the pattern. Maybe we will be in the coming days and weeks. We must go day by day until we really see the weather pattern repeating.  It looks like it is, but I am not certain yet.

Gary

It is cold, but not that bad.  40 or so this time of year is tolerable. Hope Gary doesn't issue Artic air warning like last year. Winter just dragged on after that warning.

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No Arctic air Watches or Warnings yet!

Gary

Gary, I'm going to be traveling on business next week...well out of the viewing area. Will you be posting a video of the forecast after you deliver it Monday night?

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I believe we will have a video ready on NBCActionNews.com after it airs Monday night.  Have a safe trip.

Gary

Andrew,
I would guess the Friday after Thanksgiving we will start getting into the October weather pattern and would guess we will have 2 larger systems go through in December.  There was a system that came Oct. 7th then a larger system a week later and finally a system the 23rd.  My prediction we will have rain Thanksgiving day into Friday with a chance for it to turn into snow.  Then a system come December 4th-5th and a system December 13th ish.  The October 14-16 storm was a little bigger than the others and would work out with Gary's prediction for the 1st 1 inch of snow.  

I hope December through February is a big fat ARCTIC AIR WARNING. I want blizzards and heavy snow. I want to be snowed in!!!!!!!!

Back to reality:
One 8-10" snowstorm would be nice, then a few little 4-6" events. Gary, hows Thanksgiving looking for the Minnesota/Iowa border area? Any snow? I'm going up there for Thanksgiving and I want to get stuck there. I know it's a little early, but I'm so excited for winter(and my mom wants to know).

Can you give the link for the recording of the Winter Forecast Monday night? (I hope I didn't ask the same thing as Mike B!)

Since the weather is fairly boring at the moment, thought I would ask an LRC question:  Does the LRC apply to the Northern Hemisphere only or does the Southern Hemisphere also contain a similar LRC?  If yes, would the beginning of the LRC be opposite in the Southern Hemisphere?  For example, would the SH LRC setup in March/April and then cycle?

I've had this question in my mind for some time and thought now is as good as time as any to ask.

Thanks!

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I will assume there is one in the Southern Hemisphere, but I haven't studied it at all.  If it did exist it would likely set up in their Autumn months of March and April.

Gary

supercell,

I don't think they have really researched that yet. I think there probably is.

I think we are entering October 1 or 2nd part of the cycle:

http://tinyurl.com/6dfjac

http://tinyurl.com/6jkx9l

Gary, what do you think?

Thanks Gary and Andrew,

In my mind, I believe the discovery of the Northern Hemisphere LRC marks the beginning of a major advancement in meteorological science.  If research proves a Southern Hemisphere LRC exists as well, then the LRC takes another major step forward.  The discovery of a SH LRC would accomplish two important goals:

One, it would provide a test for the LRC theory.  If a SH LRC is proven, the LRC theory strengthens significantly.

Two, there may be a connection between the NH LRC and the SH LRC.  Perhaps this is the most important reason for researching a SH LRC.  If the connection exists, it could lead to the underlying cause for the LRC.

Discovery of the LRC is a breakthrough; Discovery of the cause leads to Law.

That little trough is what might be coming through Friday/Saturday:

http://tinyurl.com/637teg


http://tinyurl.com/5pod8x

I dont see any real significant threat of the snowflake contest ending til the beginning of december like the 2nd or 3rd lol.

Well the models seemed to have changed their minds again, poor things, they are not used to being in a new pattern, either way looks like they now want to continue the Northwest flow troughs to our north and east a little longer, having another short wave pass to our north and east late in the weekend, as for that little disturbance, well there is still hope, it will probably shift some more either way on the models, oh well we are still getting to know our new LRC for 08'-09'.

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Nick,

Your last statement is important!  Yes, we are still getting to know it.  The GFS has a very different solution every 6 hours, and right now we don't like the solutions because we want the weather to be exciting.  Let's see how it looks at the end of the week and hopefully it will start lining up better. 

Have a great night.

Gary