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Winter Forecast 2008-2009

WINTER FORECAST 2008-2009 (issued November 24, 2008)

A unique weather pattern has set up across North America and the entire Northern Hemisphere. This forecast is based on my theory, the LRC. The theory has the following main components:

  • A unique weather pattern sets up every year between October 1st and November 10th
  • The weather pattern cycles, repeats, and continues through winter, spring and into summer. Identifying the cycle length is critical to making accurate predictions on when storm systems are likely to hit a local area
  • “Long term” long-wave troughs and ridges become established and also repeat at regular times within the cycle. These dominant features can be used to identify where storm systems will strengthen and weaken most often throughout the year
  • There is a pattern. It isn’t just one long-wave trough, storm system, or ridge. It is a sequence of troughs and ridges that are cycling across the Northern Hemisphere

Here are the main features that will likely affect the weather pattern this winter:

Dominant feature #1:

One of the stronger features is a long wave trough that extends from Hudson Bay south through the Great Lakes (eastern Michigan) down into the Alabama/Georgia line. This is a major feature in the cycling pattern, as it will likely be carved out three to four times during each cycle. Even the western and central storm systems ended up phasing into this Great Lakes trough.

Weaker feature #2:

There is another long wave trough that deepens through the western states that likely exists near the Texas/New Mexico border extending north through the western plains. This feature is not as powerful as the eastern trough, but it is there and likely will be carved out four times during each cycle.

Feature #3:

There is a mean “long term” long-wave ridge over western Canada north of Washington and Idaho extending into northwest Canada and this is a strong feature in this years pattern. There is a “long term” long-wave ridge near Southern California that tends to drift off shore quite often and will likely link up with the Canada ridge at times this winter.

Feature #4:

Split flow has developed many times during the first cycle in October into November. This will likely continue to be a major part of this winters weather pattern.

Let’s go through each of the above features:

The Great Lakes trough (Feature #1)

Energy has been generated just east and south of the western Canadian mean ridge caused by temperature contrasts that are now growing in strength in that region. One of these developed late in October near the US/Canada border as you can see below, and then the jet stream energy dives southeast across the Rockies through the plains and a trough is eventually carved out into the mean position creating the set-up for a major storm system at the surface. This also happened between October 16 and 20, and between September 27-Oct 4, just as the new long waves were becoming established. Go to www.LRCWeather.com for how this long wave feature develops.  Here is a look at the Great Lakes trough:

 The western plains long-wave trough:

Energy diving southeast into the western states has formed into long-wave troughs on a few different occasions and this will likely be a big factor at times this winter.  The troughs happened in the critical developing period of the LRC:  October 8-14, October 20-25, Nov 3-7, and November 9-13.

This long-wave trough will likely repeat within each cycle.  The trough may form from various initial conditions, but eventually end up in the long wave position. What I mean is that the energy could come underneath a split, or south around an eastern Pacific upper high, but in either case the end result will be in carving out a stronger plains trough that drives through the western states. You can see how this developed in October:

Jet energy develops near the west coast.  This is how it formed in October, and computer models will have a very hard time picking this feature out until it is three to four days out from forming:

The energy then digs, strengthens and starts carving out a western into central United States trough:

On the left front quadrant of the jet stream an upper low formed in October, and will likely happen again two or three times this winter:

The mature trough has now formed a powerful upper level low that will likely produce major winter storms:

"Long term" long-wave ridge (feature #3)

During the cold season the Canada ridge will tend to retrogress to off near the west coast of Canada and extending to off the California coast.  It will likely try to close off upper level highs this winter a few times. When this happens we will likely see brutally cold Arctic air masses develop over central and western Canada. This will likely block up the flow over North America and lead to long stretches of cold weather across the United States.  During predictable parts of the pattern this ridge will likely develop and help create some stormy set-ups across the United States.

As we move later into spring the ridge will tend to form over this years more favored long wave position north of Montana and likely lead to cut-off lows in the south central and southwest parts of the nation in developing split flow.  Look for this to happen as we move into the spring months. 

An example of split flow and the likely combinations of features 1, 2, and 3 above is shown on this next map.  The mean ridge can be seen off the west coast and strongly into southwest Canada:

As all of this comes together we will see some rather wild temperature swings and storm systems moving across the United States. 

2008-2009 Temperature Forecast December through March:

2008-2009 precipitation forecast December through March:

There will be dry and wet parts of this years weather pattern.  More on what we see in this years cycle below, but first here is the more specific forecast for the Kansas City area.

KANSAS CITY AREA

  • Near to below average temperatures           
  • One ice storm most likely south of Kansas City           
  • Two or three major Arctic outbreaks  
  • 20 to 25 inches of snow  

Snowfall prediction probability chart (December 1st to April 15th):

  • Chance of 4" to 10":  5%
  • Chance of 11" to 15":  10%
  • Chance of 16" to 19":  15%
  • Chance of 20" to 25":  50%
  • Chance of 26" to 29":  15%
  • Chance of 30" or more:  5%               

We are narrowing in on the cycle length in this years LRC.  It appears to be close to 51 days, give or take a few days.  As soon as we are more confident in the cycle length we will make specific forecasts picking out dates in the longer range and issuing these forecast on NBC Action News and in the blog.  Meteorologist Brett Anthony will add his thougths on NBC Action News in the morning.  Jeremy Nelson will come in with his ideas later in the week.  Here is the link to our winter forecast we showed last night, and our disccussion more in-depth:

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=423140@kshb.dayport.com&navCatId=3721

Have a fantastic day.  We will try to answer your questions and comments. 

Gary Lezak

 

 

Published Monday, November 24, 2008 8:13 PM by glezak

Comments

 

Andrew_Stafford said:

SSSWEEETTT!!!
November 24, 2008 10:17 PM
 

nicknack said:

Are you still thinking we will have our first inch of snowfall by December 3rd or have you reconsidered?  If so, when would you change your date to?  

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Right now I would guess before December 15th, and possibly close to December 10th.  When I made my prediction I was going off of Scott's idea that it was a 43 day cycle, but since we now believe it is closer to 50 days my guess should be one week off.

I hope you enjoyed the winter forecast.

 

Gary

November 24, 2008 10:17 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

I was almost right about the cycle length
November 24, 2008 10:17 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Gary,

What do you think the amount of snow will be? Will it be 3-6" snow event each time?

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Andrew,

I really think we will get hit by at least one snow storm bigger than the 3 to 6 inch range you talk about.

Gary

November 24, 2008 10:21 PM
 

Billy said:

Not hard to be wrong when you forecast climatology for snow (~20 inches).

How much colder are you looking for?  0-1 degrees, 1-3 degrees, 3-5 degrees?  This way if its 0.5 above normal you can still be right cause it was "near normal".

Every year we have one or two arctic outbreaks, can't remember a winter when we didn't.  The big question would be how "extensive/long" you think these outbreaks will be.

Overall, other than the snow amount listed (which is normal), was slightly disappointed there were  no additional numbers.

Main point:   Looks to be a pretty "average" winter here in Kansas City.

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A lot of points, but we obviously are expecting above average snow and precipitation in general.

Gary


November 24, 2008 10:23 PM
 

twister11 said:

saw it coming
November 24, 2008 10:25 PM
 

snoman said:

great forecast gary and team, just cant wait till the white stuff starts flyin!
November 24, 2008 10:32 PM
 

Emmysmom said:

I hate to say it, Gary, but I really hope you are wrong!  Three "major" storms in each of the two stretches?  I dont have that many vacation days left!  If they have to happen, make them Saturday night/Sunday storms, or Tuesday night/Wednesday :)

And last year my daughter's birthday party got called off because of ice, I just fear it will happen again.
November 24, 2008 10:33 PM
 

Snow Day said:

Wow, thats a great forecast! Great job!

By the way, whats your email gary?
November 24, 2008 10:33 PM
 

LRCfan said:

Gary, I know you said there would be widespread 20-25 inches but do you lean to any side of the viewing area getting more snow?
November 24, 2008 10:36 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Are you going to put the Universal sports on Digital TV that's suppose to replace Weather PLUS?
November 24, 2008 10:40 PM
 

davidmcg said:

Three major storms per cycle is bad for the agriculture industry.  It will make it a difficult spring to work the fields again.  Not to mention what it can do in late March to a wheat crop.  Well the weather will be what it will be.  Its a gamble on the weather no matter what career field we all let ourselves slide into.  None of us can stay in doors for the next 5 months.  The 51 days was a surprise to me.  looking back at my weather data I would have thought 44 or 45 days and not nearly as cold as you are predicting.  So now we have the long range winter forecast.  So when do we get the exciting one, the long range spring forecast?  You know most of us prefer severe thunderstorms over this frozen white stuff.

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That is a good question that I will post later in the week.  I love winter much more than the spring storms. 

Last year our winter forecast was not nearly as accurate as our spring and summer forecasts and there is a good reason.  We really know the pattern much better by the time we get to around January.  As soon as we really see the eyes of this years LRC we will provide more thoughts on the spring forecast.

Gary

November 24, 2008 11:04 PM
 

K10K7 said:

Gary,

Moved down from Omaha and have a large community sidewalk to plow, should I get the $600 plow for the John Deere?

J or K10K7

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I would wait two more weeks and see if this 25 day stretch of stormy weather begins to show up.  I think it will, so that would be a nice Christmas present. A very nice one.

Gary

November 24, 2008 11:04 PM
 

KansasPatriot said:

How many inches of snowfall in a given period of time does it take to be considered a snow "storm" in Kansas City? I have always wondered that.

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Last year we had a lot of days with snow coming down.  To define it as a "snow storm" is difficult. If it is very cold and 1 to 2 inches of snow falls with the roads covered and a mess created, then I would consider that a small snow "storm".  But, I wouldn't call that a major snow storm.  This should be reserved for 4 inches or more, which doesn't happen very often here.

Gary

November 24, 2008 11:17 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

I believe NOAA predicted an warmer than average Winter. You are predicting an colder than average Winter season. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out. I do know that NOAA often changes their forecasts. It is interesting to see Gary forecast one thing for a certain day and NOAA to forecast something totally different. Like Gary saying it is going to storm and NOAA saying it will be 70 and sunny. Then as we get closer to the day, NOAA starts to put in a small rain chance. Then closer yet, the rain chances get higher. On the day, NOAA says, 95% of rain today. It amuses me when a week before they were saying sunny and warm and Gary was saying rainy and cruddy and Gary turns out to be right. So what does the National Weather service think of the LRC, does anyone know?
Audra
November 24, 2008 11:51 PM
 

Joplinwxguy said:

Great job Gary.  It couldn't have been done any better.
Doug

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Doug,

Thank you so much!  Good luck tonight on your forecast for the winter.  Let us know when it is on-line.

Gary

November 24, 2008 11:54 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Also, Gary, I assume you don't predict for other cities.. Maybe you will this time. How many inches of snow do you think Aurora, CO will get this Winter. My sister in law just moved there and before she moved she went on and on about how they don't get snow in the Winter. I've been there, it is right next to Denver. They have snow fences on the freeways. Why would they have snow fences if they did not get snow. I just want to know what your forecast is for Aurora, CO (and I assume they will get more snow than us) so I can look forward to her getting snowed in. I am really looking forward to privately laughing at her nativity. :-)
Audra

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Audra,

They average MUCH more snow than we do.  Our average is around 20 inches a year, and Aurora averages around 50 inches a year.  So, your friend will get some snow soon.

Gary

November 24, 2008 11:57 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

EXCELLENT, just excellent, you have gotten me excited for the potential of this winter Gary!!
One other thing... I have tried to log into the LRCweather.com website as a member, and had filled out all of the information it needed, but it just sent me back to the same page that asks you to fill out the information and I am still not a member, so I am wondering if anybody else has had any trouble, or if I am doing something wrong?

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Nick,

I will look into that problem.  Now, let's hope it snows before Christmas.

Gary

November 25, 2008 12:31 AM
 

RickMckc said:

Nick, I had the same problem. I "fixed" it by clicking on "forgot password" and resetting it (to the same password).
November 25, 2008 2:37 AM
 

MikeTrainor1 said:

ugh. blast after blast. shouldn't be surprised... it's winter in kc. but still...
November 25, 2008 5:30 AM
 

juba said:

Whenever I get excited about something it never happens, even if it seems impossible that it won't happen. So I'm not sharing my thoughs. ;-)
November 25, 2008 6:15 AM
 

NotesInTheMargin said:

Could anyone point me to the two maps of temperature and precip (showing where the above/below average areas over the US would be) for the 2007-08 Winter Forecast?

I found the main text of the forecast at an old blog entry here:
http://community.nbcactionnews.com/blogs/weatherblog/archive/2007/11/16/2180725.aspx

But I cannot find the images - it appears they were removed from that post for some reason.  

If someone could post those or email them to me, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!!

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Notes,

I found them last night as I went over last winters forecast.  You can point out that the forecast was rather off if you would like.  Our snowfall forecast was rather close, but we got drawn in by the long warm dry spell in November.  We are in another one of those right now where there suddenly isn't a storm in sight.  I expect the models will gravitate towards the right forecast within two weeks. 

And, Notes, the forecast based on the LRC becomes much more accurate as the days and weeks go by.  By mid-December last year our forecasts short, medium, and long range were as accurate as any long range forecast that I have ever seen.  So, go and blast away at last years winter forecast if you want to.  I prefer to look ahead rather than look back.  And, if you wonder why I started with the accuracy check of the snowfall prediction from last year, I wasn't going to, but my boss told me to start that way. 

The bottom line, confidence is shaky on this initial guess.  But, I will challenge you soon when we issue the more specific forecasts. I am just not ready to do it yet.  We just identified what we believe to be the cycle length this year.  I need another few weeks before this is solid and I can show clear examples.

Have a great day!

Gary

November 25, 2008 6:39 AM
 

boootz said:

Last year Gary said 19 inches and north or Leavenworth we got over 40 inches, so if my reoccuring cycle is correct that means 50 inches this year..gosh I hope that it is south of I-70's this year. I am personally very ready for summer!!! Any thoughts Gary on who takes the brunt of this, North or South?
November 25, 2008 7:39 AM
 

rsparkster said:

Gary,

Saw your winter forecast last night.  We always look forward to your predictions.  Great forecast by the way.  I have been a long time reader and first time poster.  I have two questions. 1. What are my chances of being able to fly out of KCI on Jan. 21 and flying home on Jan. 29th?  We leave for Florida and I hope we will be able to go.  2.  My parents will be leaving California to come to MO in mid to late Feb.  They will be driving.  Will they be able to make it or should they wait until Mar. or Apr.?
Thanks

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Welcome to the blog and we appreciate your participation,

I am not ready to be so specific on a forecast in January, but that should be the more energetic and stormy part of the pattern. This doesn't mean that it won't be nice for travel. We should check into these long range forecasts in a few weeks as we get a bit closer and learn so much more about this pattern.

Have a great holiday week!

Gary

November 25, 2008 7:49 AM
 

davidmcg said:

Alright Gary, now that all the graphics are posted and listening to you last night I think you have really outdone yourself in explaining the theory and this years set-up.  Only time will tell the accurracy of the forecast.  But your delivery and explanation of theory have come a long way.  I am sure the added hardware and software over the last few years have contributed.  But the best contribution I think has been your growing confidence in the theory and experience in public speaking.  We are so lucky to have a Southern Cal transplant like you in this area.  You and the crew have done a great job this year and we all appreciate it.  So we have been forewarned.  I truly hope you are way off on the number of major storms and I hope we have zero ice storms.  But its winter, its the Great Plains and this stuff happens.  Your error rate is to low to ignore this forecast or take with a simple grain of salt.  I'll say this, the animals all seem to be putting on extra weight this year and storing food at a very rapid pace.

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Never doubt those wolly worms.  Anyway, thanks for the kind words.  Obviously I hope our forecast is correct.  We will know a lot more before Christmas as we are expecting a stormy and rather energetic weather pattern over the last three weeks of December.

Gary

November 25, 2008 8:23 AM
 

mamaof3girls said:

Awesome entry Gary!! That had to take an extreme amount of time for you all to complete!!! I am sure the one ice storm you are predicting will be down here....it is not often that we escape a winter without one. I hope this fairly dry November does not mess up your forecast. Safe travels to everyone and Happy Thanksgiving early!!
Monica
Pleasanton, KS

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Monica,

We will know more soon!  And, hopefully if we do have an ice storm it will be minor and not major.

Gary

November 25, 2008 8:30 AM
 

marlina10 said:

As a snow lover, I was excited to hear we could finally see a major snowstorm here this year!
November 25, 2008 8:54 AM
 

sedsinkc said:

Gary, many thanks for posting the video of your televised forecast online, watching the clip was the first thing I did this morning from down here.  Really great blog this morning, too.  The detail you provide is tremendous.  Your winter forecast is fascinating.  Such a complex pattern makes the forecast quite difficult.  If you are predicting above average precip, then you must be thinking the western trough and/or split flow will be a significant contributor to this winter's storminess around KC.  Over the next month, we'll all see whether this will be the case or whether the eastern trough will be the most dominant feature, which would likely mean less precip for KC.  And of course you are continuing to monitor the pattern so you can tweak your forecast in a few weeks.  You always make it clear that your November forecast is not set in stone and is subject to change in about a month, once the LRC has been better defined.  It will be interesting to see how this winter goes (I'm still thinking KCI will get less than 15 inches of snow this winter).  I must also echo weatherfreak01's comments about NOAA's forecast, which is much different than yours.  If you hit a home run with this forecast then I think the scientific community at large has to come around and acknowledge that the LRC is a valid forecasting tool.  With the complexity of this year's pattern it will be tough.

I must mention that I have the same problem Nick Rau discussed in his blog entry w/r/t obtaining member access to the LRC website.  I have tried repeatedly since last Monday to register and/or log in and when I try to leave a comment I get a message saying only members can leave comments.  Have a great day!

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We will figure out what is wrong with logging into the LRCWeather.com site.  There was one suggestion earlier that you can try in these comments.  Give that a try and let us know what happens.

Thanks for the support.  And, you have hit it on the nose. We have had winter forecasts that we made an almost flawless forecast, and there are others that end up differently than our initial thoughts and interpretations.  And, as you said, we will know so much more in the next few weeks.  Hopefully the forecast will only be tweaked a bit.  We can't overact, so let's be patient.  One more point you made...yes, the split and southern stream must be able to penetrate through the ridge and create the wet storm systems I am anticipating or it will not be a wet winter.  We will see.

Gary

November 25, 2008 9:07 AM
 

sedsinkc said:

Maybe this year KC gets blasted by a "major" snowstorm, but I'll say KC gets skirted by any major snows, with the heaviest accumulations outside of the metro and only 4-5 inches max in KC itself....  If the pattern goes as you predict, I can see big snows happening in southern Kansas and southern Missouri, as well as across Nebraska and Iowa.  It will be fascinating to watch it all unfold.
November 25, 2008 9:12 AM
 

Brocksmama said:

Nick Rau, I too had the same problem until I happened to check my mail and there was an email from the Administrator of the site saying I needed to click on the link they sent me and then my account would be activated.  After that I was OK.  And to Gary and the team- awesome , awesome job on the forecast and today's blog- very informative and detailed which helps us weather novices to understand better!  Dea
November 25, 2008 9:16 AM
 

RDub said:

Gary, thanks for all the detail you put into this forecast on your blog here. I tend to agree with sedsinkc's comments about precipation amounts, though. If the great lakes low is a dominant feature, I think that sets us up for average or below average precip amounts. Of course, we get such a small amount of precip during the winter on average that it only takes on decent storm (rain or snow) per month to send us above average.

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Believe me, I don't disagree with you. It is a major concern.  But, I expect some very wet and significant storm systems from the splits and the western plains troughs.  We will have a very good idea of whether these are possible before Christmas.

Gary

November 25, 2008 9:28 AM
 

EdRoberts said:

@nice rau - I got your account fixed on the LRCWeather site. If anyone else had issues getting your account enabled, give it a whirl now.

In any case, I'm glad that the team waited until later in November to finalize a forecast. Just like last year, there was that period of chaos in the beginning of the month that threw all of our thoughts for a loop. I feel much more confident about the forecast this year than last year's. Can't wait to go into more detail over at LRCWeather.com over the next week.

November 25, 2008 9:36 AM
 

sedsinkc said:

Just checked the LRC website and I'm officially recognized as a user!!  Hooray! :)
November 25, 2008 9:43 AM
 

yewtrees said:

Gary. Thanks for the detailed forecast for the upcoing winter season. You and your crews have done it again with precise pinpoints of the future outlook. I was wondering what you think of the weather-like at KCI on Dec 13 (departing) and Dec. 19 (arrival) because I am flying out for Australia. Keep up with the good work!

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It is a bit early for a specific forecast on those dates, but at this moment I expect a signifcant storm sometime between those two dates.

Gary

November 25, 2008 9:44 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

Nick/Seds/et all.  

Fixed.
November 25, 2008 10:15 AM
 

DPannell said:

Trying hard to not let the LRC predictions get me down...I'm just going to enjoy this beautiful day and continue to do my "no snow, no snow" dance and keep my prediction that the first measurable snow will not fall until January!  Blue skies and sunny days to all of you, Happy Thanksgiving!
--deb

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Deb,

Don't even worry about it yet.  The weather pattern, at this moment, is tame and under control.  Just super nice.  So enjoy every day. We aren't anticipating any significant storm until around the second week of December.  It certainly is not showing up right now.

Gay

November 25, 2008 11:03 AM
 

Adam Penney said:

Well, I have to say for a severe weather enthusiast and storm chaser, this pattern does not make me smile. I know its very early, but with a dominant patter of a Great Lakes Low and constant NW flow over the plains, that will keep things cool and dry with any sort of substantial flow of gulf moisture supressed far to the south.

I am very much hoping that the split flow with an energetic southern branch can bring some hope. NW flow is NOT what I like to see at all.

Great job with the forecast Gary. It seems you are gaining confidence each year with your theory.

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Thanks.  But, as confident as we may be in the LRC, we still get too emotional over every GFS run, ECMWF run, etc.  The morning runs are about as exact opposite of my forecast as they can possibly be. But, this is what we call the classic "panic" period where everything on the models looks different. It isn't what the models say that counts, it is what actually happens that does, so let's see what we think in a few days.

Gary

November 25, 2008 11:09 AM
 

MikeL said:

Gary, excellent work on the winter forecast and explaining this years features and cycle.

I still tend to think that the TOP-STJ-KC area will have below average snowfall more in the 12-16 inch range.

Basically , I see cold and dry when the Eastern trough dominates as has been the case so far. I see us being warm (in the southerly flow) and maybe somewhat wet when the western trough dominates with any snow to the northwest. I see the area getting dry slotted in this pattern as well. In the split flow pattern I see mainly that there may not be cold air in place if any waves do happen to pass by.

Thus, I see near normal to below normal temps and I would say close to normal or perhaps slightly below normal precip and definitely below normal snowfall. That's too bad because I like lots of snow. Of course my forecast and $1.00 will buy you a cup of coffee (or whatever the price is)!

Mike (not quitting his day job)
November 25, 2008 11:41 AM
 

fitzy said:

I am also having trouble with the LRC site, I tried the suggestions offered in the blog, but it didn't work for me.... : (
November 25, 2008 12:23 PM
 

EdRoberts said:

@fitzy You should be set.
November 25, 2008 12:58 PM
 

JPnKC said:

Hello Gary,

If I am looking at them right--the models dont look to exciting at all....I know they are just models but wow--pretty much no signs of much moisture- or anything exciting in the next 2 weeks.

Great forecast as usual- will be fun to track the LRC again this year...I hope it all comes together.

JP

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JP,

It isn't what the computer models do.  I is what happens that counts.  The models had snow and cold outbreaks showing up just two days ago, and now they show boring, dry, nothing.  Let's see what they look like in a few days.

We are glad you enjoyed the winter forecast. 

Happy Thanksgiving!

Gary



November 25, 2008 1:45 PM
 

Adam Penney said:

Gary,

I would disregard todays 12Z run of the GFS. Yes, it can be inconsistent at times, and especially this time of the year. However, that specific run was completely out to lunch IMO. It was 100% opposite of the majority of the runs 5 days prior to it.

Now if it continues to do this over the next 24-48 hours, then Id start to get a little concerned. Not panic time YET.....

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I agree! If we come back from Thanksgiving dinner and there are no storm systems showing up then we will worry.

Gary

November 25, 2008 2:11 PM
 

Braysmama said:

I absolutely love snow and last year was a big disappointment for me since I live southeast of the metro. Looking back I don't think we managed over a foot for the entire season. Hopefully it don't end up like that again this year. :)
November 25, 2008 2:16 PM
 

HailJonathan said:

Last night was my 1 year wedding anniversary and my wife was a bit tiffed(if thats a word) that I kept watching the time for your winter forecast and we watched it together and then watched our wedding video. I loved the winter forecast i'm excited for our first real snow! You did a really good job too. Thanks for always being number 1!

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Jonathan,

Thanks and HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

Gary

November 25, 2008 2:34 PM
 

Snow Day said:

Your forecast is great for Eastern Nebraska region! Great job Gary! What is your thinking for Eastern Nebraska specifically Omaha?

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I think you will get hit by a few major winter storm systems, even though nothing is showing up right now.

Gary

November 25, 2008 4:27 PM
 

mattmaisch said:

Winter forecast looks great.. Next two weeks though look very boring.  At least according to the GFS.  Hopefully it will be a bit more exciting than what is currently being projected.
November 25, 2008 5:20 PM
 

WEATHERdude said:

I love this website! lol After reading all of the comments made and ideas bouncing around... ive realized that forecasting the weather and how you forecast it is really very challenging! I admire all of the work that you have put into the LRC and i have faith that is will work! I should think that it will eventually become a famous forecasting tool and allow for additional research and studies into the "organized chaos" of the weather patterns.

As for right now, yes the weather models are BORING, but this must be an intersting time, and like you said Gary, around this time is very hard to predict.

I just also want to say im extremely excited for this winter! as it is my favorite season, and i suppose that currently this is the "calm before the storm!" (at least i hope!!!)

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Thanks, can you imagine a chance of snow moving in. Right now, it seems so far away.

Gary

November 25, 2008 5:28 PM
 

KC_Hams said:

I agree with you on the cold, I'm not convinced we're going to get that much snow. Give me a month and I just might change my mind. Great job on the forecast and the new site.
November 25, 2008 6:34 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

I don't check the models for myself (like I would know what I'm looking at) , I just watch your forcast keep a close eye on this blog. I really hope we get some 18 to 24 hr. snow storms that drop 6 to 8 or more inches. I do get paid by the hour for me and my truck.

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I think it will be calm for a while, and then around the 10th of December we should enter a rather active period.  So, don't load up the truck yet.

Gary

November 25, 2008 6:34 PM
 

KansasPatriot said:

Would increasing or decreasing temperatures on Mars be able to somewhat assist in some form of predictions on above or below average temps on Earth during a season? Possibly from sunspots? Just wondering..
November 25, 2008 8:07 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Any new blog soon/update?
November 25, 2008 8:51 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Where is everybody tonight?? Did everybody go on vacation except me??

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Andrew,

Did you see the 10 PM Weathercast?  I am here.

Gary

November 25, 2008 10:02 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

yah, Gary I saw the 10pm weather, but are we the only ones? I wish that Snow chance would be our 1st inch chance or maybe our 1st 2' chance!

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Andrew,

Let's keep our expectations low until we get that first inch.

Have a great night.

Gary

November 25, 2008 10:45 PM
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