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Storm Update...Will The Snowflake Contest End?...UPDATED

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11:15 p.m. update. Just drove home from the Plaza to Olathe. Wet roads, but there is a dusting of snow on grassy surfaces. Looks really pretty outside! The comma head formed which I showed during the newscast. This should provide us with light snow for the next several hours in the city.  Snow showers still likely on Sunday.  Overall probably trace amounts to around 1".  This should occur mainly on grassy surfaces and the 1" total would likely be in the areas east and northeast of the metro. Probably a dusting to half inch in the city.  An isolated spot or two in the advisory area could see around 2" of snow.  Did get a report of a 0.5" of snow in Winston, MO which is in Daviess County.  The snowflake contest will likely live to see another day!

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Good wintry Saturday bloggers!  I wanted to update everyone on our developing storm that will bring the first accumulating snow of the season to some tonight and Sunday.  I first want to mention that the NWS has issued Winter Weather Advisories for the following counties in our viewing area: Harrison, Grundy, Daviess, Mercer, Livingston, Carroll, and Saline.

Below, the infrared satellite shows the setup of our low pressure area and the developing comma head on the back edge. The 'L' on the map represents the position of the ULL.  It is the back edge of the storm that will likely bring a majority of the accumulating snow to the area this evening and tonight.

 

Here are my thoughts on snow accumulations. Overall a slushy dusting to 2" still looks good.  In the metro I just showed on air a half inch to up to one inch in the city.  Certainly wouldn't surprise me if it is under a half inch though since the storm is just forming.  Areas northeast of Kansas City will see higher totals of around 1" in Richmond to around 2" in Trenton.  In general the Winter Weather Advisory areas could see 1-3" with the 3" amounts in an isolated spot or two.  West of the stateline around Lawrence, Emporia, Hiawatha totals will be much less with a trace to a dusting possible.  The snow will first stick on grassy surfaces, roof tops, and wind shields.  And then as temperatures drop some could stick on the roads.  Best chance of seeing some slippery areas will be on the Missouri side of the stateline.  This is a tough forecast since the storm developed right on top of us and is strengthening right now.

Below is the latest RUC forecast for 1 a.m. Sunday morning.  The ULL labeled #1 will begin to move northeast.  But dropping in behind it will be ULL #2.  This will continue our chance of snow showers on Sunday.  As wave #1 move away overnight the snow may end for a few hours in the metro before starting up again on Sunday.  So don't be surprised if a quick band of snow moves thru and then there is a little break overnight or early Sunday.  Areas northeast of the metro likely won't see that break tonight.

 

 

I would put the odds of the snowflake contest ending tonight at 50% or less.  Gary and I will be doing the measuring from this evening thru tonight.  If the contest continues past Sunday the next best chance for it to end will be on Wednesday.  That is also the day that Gary & Jeff picked for the first 1" of snow to occur.  I picked December 2...a little early(or late depending on tonight).

If you are looking for some excitement weatherwise we are heading into a much more active pattern.  If you remember back to the winter forecast when Gary showed the calendars, there were two destinct time periods highlighted as active periods.  Period one was highlighted as starting on November 29...today.  Welcome to active period number 1!!

In the week ahead there is one very mild day still in the cards.  We talked about it first and nothing has changed.  Still looking for temps well into the 50s on Tuesday, with some 60s not out of the question.  But as quickly as the mild air moves in it will exit on Wednesday.  A storm will likely develop nearby.  This could bring rain or snow to the area, but without a doubt a big push of cold air.

Here is the 18Z GFS setup for Wednesday at the surface.  Still a long way out, but Gary is scheduled to be off work that day...so it will happen:)

 

 

Enjoy the snow tonight and please post updates on the blog.  If you have pictures by Sunday morning please send those to  jnelson@nbcactionnews.com and I will do my best to post them on the blog and show them on air!  We'll update the blog as needed the rest of tonight.

Jeremy

Published Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:36 PM by Jeremy WxPlus

Comments

 

twister11 said:

are we seriously going to be dealing with storms forming right over us this winter? This will be hard predicting!

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Keep in mind where Gary showed the long term long wave trough during the winter forecast.  Near or just west of Kansas City.  If that is the case lows will drop into this trough numerous times this winter.  Could be a fun winter:)

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 5:10 PM
 

Fire Dog said:

Grass turning white up here in Excelsior Springs!!
November 29, 2008 5:18 PM
 

NicoleWasHere said:

That's one trippy looking radar image.  Anyway, can't wait for some accumulating snow, probably.  Will it be enough to build an army of micro-snowmen?  x]

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It may be a enough snow for some mini snowmen/women:)

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 

Braysmama said:

Temp falling to 37.3 and the rain is trying hard to turn over to snow finally down towards Kingsville! :)
November 29, 2008 5:23 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

Hello Jeremy: so do you think the road here in metro will be wet, and snow on grassy surface's

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For the most part, but if it snows hard enough some snow could stick on the roads too.

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 5:43 PM
 

Tinkermom said:

No, no,no, our first one inch of snow will not come until December 9th as that was MY prediction, LOL!  ;)

We drove home to Olathe today from Table Rock Lake.  The rain/snow line this afternoon was around Harrisonville.  It was snowing like crazy around Belton around 2:30 this afternoon.  My 14 year old son had gotten a text message this morning from a friend telling us it was snowing back home so at least we had a heads-up!

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Glad you had a safe travels and are now going to see some snow!

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 6:07 PM
 

stormlover said:

I can't wait to see the snow from inside my house...the snow flakes that fell on the 15th weren't fun since we were sitting outside as they were falling.  I've got my Christmas lights up & the music on so some snowflakes would match nicely.

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Hopefully mother nature delivers!

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 6:08 PM
 

FlakeFan said:

The warmest it got all day today was 35.6 at JoCo Airport, a morning high.
November 29, 2008 6:16 PM
 

FlakeFan said:

Also, the radar dosen't look like much, will this change?
November 29, 2008 6:18 PM
 

rymac said:

Jeremy,
I am going to send you a picture of our "1 inch" in Chillicothe in about an hour. We are already at 1/2'' on the grass. ryan
November 29, 2008 6:19 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

Sticking on everything but the roads :( in Holt.
November 29, 2008 6:30 PM
 

Darkwolfe said:

Minor amusement for anyone who's interested.  
This is NE Independence at about 6pm in my backyard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJGxPZg
November 29, 2008 6:31 PM
 

Lillyanya said:

Link isn't working Dark. :(  It's snowing here at 169 and Barry Rd.  Starting to stick on my balcony! :) YAY, I haven't seen any sticking to the ground yet though.  Might be because it's still too dark!  Hopefully I'll see some soon.  I want to do a tiny snowball fight with my kiddo tomorrow. :)
November 29, 2008 6:43 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

 I  just hope the roadway just stay wet
November 29, 2008 7:08 PM
 

NicoleWasHere said:

Jeremy,

Sweet deal.  My plan of taking over Kansas City will be one step closer to completion--I MEAN.... Ordinary little snowmen...I'll build 'em.  Yeah.  >_>
November 29, 2008 7:09 PM
 

kellyann said:

Still nothing on the grass at my house, which is close to the Legends. It does look like it is more snow than rain the last 20 minutes.
November 29, 2008 7:11 PM
 

PlatteCityMatt said:

I picked Sunday, and yes it was based on the LRC. I dont remember the time of day though. What I DO know is that the LRC is a reoccuring pattern.
November 29, 2008 7:17 PM
 

FlakeFan said:

33.6 degrees outside. On my deck it looks like someone sprinkled glue on it and then there was gliter sprinkled on it!
November 29, 2008 7:19 PM
 

Braysmama said:

Snow starting to stick on the deck railing at my house southwest of Kingsville. :) It's not much, but being a big fan of snow, I'll take it!
November 29, 2008 7:21 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

RYMAC- any accumulations on the road or driveways up there in chillicothe?
November 29, 2008 7:22 PM
 

Darkwolfe said:

well that was weird...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJGxPZg0K4U

try again.. seems to be working this time.

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Where did you take this video?

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 7:49 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Snow is sticking to the grass and back porch. Guess my remedy of head and shoulders didn't keep the flakes away from La Cygne. :)
November 29, 2008 7:51 PM
 

Darkwolfe said:

Jeremy, that was about 6pm in my backyard.  
November 29, 2008 7:55 PM
 

Greg said:

119th and Ridgeview in Olathe, 36 deg. with light wet snow not sticking to anything.

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OK thanks.  Maybe just some light stuff to continue...then maybe a little break before the next batch of snow showers arrives overnight.

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 8:03 PM
 

rymac said:

almost an inch!!!
November 29, 2008 8:13 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

Steady snow , about 1/4 inch on deck :) nothing on streets :(
November 29, 2008 8:13 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

where you at  Ipushsnow?
November 29, 2008 8:21 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

anything on the streets RYMAC
November 29, 2008 8:22 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

Holt Mo. north of Kearney.
November 29, 2008 8:24 PM
 

Kcchamps said:

almost an inch here in Independence! and the neighborhood and side streets are starting to get slick. i just got back from circut city
November 29, 2008 8:30 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

Snow has slowed up little but still falling. i'm glad we are starting into the active part of the pattern.
November 29, 2008 8:33 PM
 

Kcchamps said:

almost an inch here in Independence! and the neighborhood and side streets are starting to get slick. i just got back from circut city
November 29, 2008 8:35 PM
 

K10K7 said:

<1/2 in NW Olathe, @ 34 degrees, but no sign of stopping, starting to really accumulate.
November 29, 2008 8:42 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Ipushsnow, It was definitly starting to stick in Holt when I was there a couple hours ago at my grandma's house.

It is accumulating nicely here Marceline, MO, I am going to take a measurment picture at 9:00 and send it in to Jeremy.

This is a fun storm!

Alex
November 29, 2008 8:42 PM
 

WEATHERdude said:

Right now, just spitting rain :( and no accumulation anywhere in southern leawood, just really cold... lol i want the snow back

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Areas that still have rain may see very little or no accumulation.  You will still see some snow showers tonight and Sunday though.

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 9:04 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

Yeah, it is sticking everywhere but the pavement and concrete :( I like it to stick on parking lots and streets. I will take what I can get,we've gotta start somewhere:)
November 29, 2008 9:05 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

 Jeremy: sticking to cars here in metro, pavment and grass not cover, do you think that will change overnight?

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Only if the snow intensity would pick up.  There's another area of light snow about to move in over the next hour or so.

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 9:23 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Uh Oh, not looking very good, Looks like our next target is Wednesday-Thursday
November 29, 2008 9:29 PM
 

nikieis said:

its changed over to all snow and comming down very light , but it is sticking to cars. oh yeah its 33 outside.
November 29, 2008 9:29 PM
 

kellyann said:

Well, 2 1/2 hours later now and still no sticking by the Legends, which is fine with me, I would just as soon it be warm and dry, the cool damp rain is miserable.
November 29, 2008 9:32 PM
 

chiefsfan said:

 Jeremy: so what you saying jeremy, that here in the metro trace amounts, so the the road will be just wet?

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trace amounts in some areas and maybe a half inch in others.  Likely wet roads...but can't rule out an icy spot or two.

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 9:46 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Hey Jeremy

I just went and took a picture of my snow measurment, and I havnt sent it to you yet because it is still getting scanned, but my current snowfall measurment for Marceline, MO is 3/4 inch.

I will send the pic as soon as it is done being scanned.

Alex
November 29, 2008 9:51 PM
 

Alden said:

Unless it's Dish Network, I can't recieve KSHB on my TV. Is it me or a station problem?

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Haven't heard of any problems.  Maybe others on here can let you know if they have Dish.

November 29, 2008 10:12 PM
 

lezakEF5 said:

Well, the picture wouldnt send...so far 3/4 inch in Marceline

Alex

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Alex,

Keep us updated.  I'm doing the morning show on Sunday and will use your updated total.

Jeremy

November 29, 2008 10:25 PM
 

TheSnowMizer said:

Hi Gary & Jeremy!

I am really liking the long term forecast. It looks like we may finally get a decent winter. Last year was disappointing to say the least for those of us south of the metro. I am in Lee's Summit and it seemed to always be North of us.

The SnowMizer will bring us a foot of snow this year.......I can feel it.

Mike in South Lee's Summit
November 29, 2008 10:28 PM
 

Andrew_Stafford said:

Olathe finally has a little Dusting with snow coming down!!!!!!

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Andrew,

The comma head has formed and the snow will continue through 5 AM or so. I am expecting close to one inch and we are monitoring the potential ending to the snowflake contest overnight, but it may still fall short of one inch.

The radar echoes are actually increasing as we approach midnight.

Gary

November 29, 2008 10:51 PM
 

KansasPatriot said:

How is the potential for December 8th looking?
November 29, 2008 10:54 PM
 

rmoolla said:

how concerned should i be driving from Dallas to OP tomorrow?
November 29, 2008 11:23 PM
 

Fire Dog said:

rmolla, it should be fine for you comming back Sunday.  Roads should be just wet and if you are arriving after 12pm all the snow should be out of here.

Hope that helps
November 30, 2008 12:02 AM
 

Fire Dog said:

Looks like its building up again  around LNK again.  Might get 1/2" more after this band passes through.

Even though we are only expecting 1-2in with this, it still is exciting.  We are ahead of last year and with the way the pattern is setting up we could have a very active winter!
November 30, 2008 12:18 AM
 

rmoolla said:

FireDog, thanks. that makes me feel less stressed out...Razz
November 30, 2008 12:26 AM
 

KansasPatriot said:

firedog it looks like 12pm will be when it is going to snow the most now.
November 30, 2008 12:33 AM
 

Fire Dog said:

Since the weather team put in their predictions, I am going to throw my own in the mix.  For the North sections of the metro, I am going to call for 30"+ and the biggest storm total of 10".  That is just my perdiction though. LOL
November 30, 2008 12:33 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

Bummer..an all nighter to measure a possible measly one inch.  Driving home from TSO, downtown as wet and 34 degrees.  The burbs were closer to freezing with snow falling.  Nothing on pavement, some traces in the grass, and about a quarter inch on some decklids of cars in Lenexa.

In LS, some snow sticking in grass depending on the yard orientation.  You know this trough axis just was very stubborn to stay west of progs.  This is encouraging.  Still watching the GFS for Wednesday.  I want to see if more energy gets backloaded into the SW.  Even the 0Z run is far more SW than just a night before.  I might call it good, but think just a bit more energy may seep out SW.

If that is the case, it will be interesting to see what happens at the surface on Wed.
November 30, 2008 12:43 AM
 

Nick Rau said:

As of 12. 36 a.m. 1/2 inch of snow on my deck and deck table in St. Joe.
November 30, 2008 12:43 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

1:30 AM - Lee's Summit

Nothing in the grass, nothing on the pavement [wet] and a light dusting on the grill.  Light flurry.

Yawn.
November 30, 2008 1:30 AM
 

LRCfan said:

snowing pretty good right now in leavenworth at 3am a nice coating of snow covering the ground maybe 1/2 inch to 3/4  it looks like nothing sticking to the streets though.
November 30, 2008 3:03 AM
 

FlakeFan said:

Looks like slightly less of an inch at JoCo Airport! Hopefully there is!
November 30, 2008 6:18 AM
 

FlakeFan said:

On the American Centruy Sky view camera it looks like theres a lot more snow there than here.
(By the way I measured the snow 10 times in 10 diff places)


1.65" Of Snow at Johnson County Executive Airport.
November 30, 2008 6:36 AM
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