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Morning Gary-Jeremy and bloggers.... snowing moderately here in S Central KS- I have just shy of 2-1/2 inches in Hutchinson - so its coming your way!!- Be safe out there!

JP

I will get to use my plow finally !!!!!!!
First I will get to work outside and watch it come down,then climb into my warm truck and play in it !!!!!

Here is a copy of the winter weather advisory from the national weather service.  Nothing to be alarmed at, just urging caution.





Winter Weather Advisory
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE KANSAS CITY/PLEASANT HILL MO
355 AM CST TUE DEC 16 2008

KSZ025-103>105-MOZ021-022-028>031-037-038-161800-
/O.CON.KEAX.WW.Y.0013.081216T1200Z-081217T0000Z/
ATCHISON KS-LEAVENWORTH-WYANDOTTE-JOHNSON KS-CLINTON-CALDWELL-
PLATTE-CLAY-RAY-CARROLL-JACKSON-LAFAYETTE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ATCHISON...LEAVENWORTH...
KANSAS CITY KS...OVERLAND PARK...OLATHE...PLATTSBURG...KINGSTON...
HAMILTON...POLO...PARKVILLE...PLATTE CITY...WESTON...LIBERTY...
EXCELSIOR SPRINGS...RICHMOND...CARROLLTON...KANSAS CITY...
INDEPENDENCE...LEXINGTON...CONCORDIA
355 AM CST TUE DEC 16 2008

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS
AFTERNOON...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS
AFTERNOON.

AN AREA OF SNOW HAS BEGUN TO MOVE INTO WEST CENTRAL MISSOURI AND
EAST CENTRAL KANSAS. THIS SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD NORTHEAST
THROUGH SUNRISE. TOTAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS THE KANSAS CITY
METRO AREA ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE 3 TO 5 INCH RANGE. THE HEAVIEST
SNOW IS EXPECTED TO BE DURING THE EARLY TO MID MORNING HOURS. DURING
THE AFTERNOON...THE SNOW WILL TAPER OFF AND TRANSITION TO A MIX OF
INTERMITTENT SNOW FLURRIES AND LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE BEFORE THE
PRECIPITATION ENDS LATE THIS AFTERNOON.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS.
SLOW DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELING. PRACTICE YOUR
WINTER SAFETY RULES...KEEP A FLASHLIGHT...FOOD AND WATER IN YOUR
CAR IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

$$


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its quarter till 5 here...  looks like we're just starting to get a steady snow....

will update later..now back to alegbra n web design

yaaaaaaawn

good morning gary well what is your thoughts for st joseph this round of snow the nws has increased our totals to 4-6 inches .

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I just mentioned 3.5"-4" for St. Joe.

Jeremy

Gary:

Good beautiful, wonderfull, glorious snowy morning to you sir!! Currently sitting at 11 degrees with a fairly brisk NE wind and snow!!!! Yes, glorious snow!! It is just awesome out this morning-yea, the winds can still cut through you but man the snow falling, the snow crunching under your shoes-awesome!!!! we have already collected close to an 1/2 inch here in SW Lawrence-it is a very lite/powdery snow but man-it is a classic Kansas City Winter's day outside!! Yes, I ahve already spent an hour out in it!!!! LOL I am such an odd bird!!!

Radar (I think-I always wind up with egg on my face when it comes to radar!!) looks very good this morning as this stretches all the way back close to Dodge City. One thing-this kind of shot the gap-looking at the radar, there is not a lot of room for error.

Will be fun following this morning-I am giving my finals at 8:15 and then proctoring so I will have tons of grading to do but I why do I get the feeling I will be following radars and then giving a couple of boys rides on thier sleds behind my bike!!!LOL My oldest and I last night were discussinmg ways to try and make an igloo with 2-3 inches of powdery snow-you can imagine how this will turn out LOL!!

Thanks everybody for the kind words-it is greatly appreciated-I have always said this and I mean it-even a broken clock can have a ghost of a good idea twice a day!!! LOL

Have a great day everybody and Gary I really hope you get to get out and enjoy this today-take the dogs for a long long snowy walk-you deserve to enjoy the weather!!! (Maybe we can get Jeremy over to the dark side as he plays with his girls in the snow today LOL)

Here we go!!!!!

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

I already took Breezy and Stormy for a walk.  I will get anotther one in after I do this 980 AM KMBZ radio update at 5:39.  It's snowing and you correctly analyzed the error by the models days ago!  Good job.

Have a fantastic day. And, remember it isn't officially winter yet.

Gary

I am hoping to see at least 3" in olathe.

Hasn't started up north in Holt yet, But I better get an early start to work.
Great job on the nowcast,I love these storms that looked like nothing until it starts.
Everyone be safe and enjoy our snow    8) YEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Morning Gary and all, I have a question for you Gary, is dry snow better driving on then wet snow?  I would think dry snow would be not quite so slick?
Have a great day and be safe on the highways.  

Light snow in Kearney.

i agree with gary's earlier comment... get an early start and take it easy!! i got here (K7 & K10) about 5:25 this morning via Roe Ave. and I-435. Saw the crews out, and the freeway wasn't "horrible" at 5:15, but K10 wasn't very good and likely to get worse. The interchange at 435 and I-35 was not good - slushy and thick - bad spot for that. I can only imagine that it wil get worse.

be careful everyone. - mike

Snowing here in KCK with a little more then a dusting on the ground with a temperature of 9.

Bryan

Good Morning Gary, Jeremy, & Bloggers!

The snow is picking up here in Northern Independence. We have about an inch in the parking lot and the ground is now covered.  
Hey Gary!! Do you think we might get to enjoy a white Christmas? :)

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There is another cold blast coming in Saturday and Sunday so early next week there is a chance of snow.  But, will it be on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?  Right now the computer models warm it up a bit on those days, but let's see how it looks later in the week.

Gary

So is the olathe area one of those that is just going to be an inch maybe 2?

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You should watch the newscast this morning, I've been saying on average 3" for the metro.

Jeremy

Gary:

Thanks so much for the kind words-to be honest, you have to chuck it up to blind luck!!!

I guess it wouldn't be a real Bill in Lawrence blogging morning without a few random observations!!!

1. Looking at the 11Z surface data today: man there is some really cold air sitting up in the Northern Plains this morning-wow!! Man if this bit of energy had really formed into a closed system it would sure bring down some brutally cold air tomorrow!!

2. The surface high pressure I think is currently sitting over Southern Wisconsin-I think that really helped us out today as most models had that drifting into Central Ohio by this morning. Will be interesting to see ho far this thing drifts in the next 24 hours and if another one slides down a bit south.

3. That High has also began a pretty significant return flow to develop over the Western and Northern High Plains-Goodland, Kansas right now is reporting SE winds close to 20 MPH. (that windchill will get ya LOL) Will be interesting to watch tomorrow to see how much they warm up on the surface as I wonder if could be an indicator of how much we warm up Wednesday into Thursday

Just some random thoughts that I hope make sense and that I really shouldn't even have typed as today is today and it is snowing!!!! So why am I even thinking about later down the road-that is a really good question!! LOL Because I have become hooked again!!!

Have a great day-enjoy the walk Gary-I was out earlier this morning and as Will Ferril said about Blue in Old School-it was glorious!!! Dust in the Wind anybody??? I am going to so enjoy today!!

Bill thinking about how to build an igloo with 2-3 inches of powdery snow in Lawrence

Thanks jeremy, I would have watched it but I work nights and am unable to.

The NWS's daily graphic has us in the K.C. metro down to Osawwatomie and Boonville at 3-5 inches.

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Please don't post the NWS links to their forecast.  You can mention it if you would like, not a huge deal but just for future reference.  Our forecast for KC is around 3".

Jeremy

No school is Lee's Summit -- I guess that's good even though this mom wanted them to go.  They'll be off for almost 3 weeks for the winter break...Sheesh!!  Have a GREAT day everyone!!

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Where I grew up this was called flurries:)

Jeremy

Alright Gary looks as if you are getting your wish, it is a winter wonderland out there.  Last night on the 10PM news it sounded as if you and Jeremy Goodwin in Topeka had consulted each other on the forecast, they were nearly identical.  Here in Jefferson County we had a slight mix for a while in the beginning, but all snow now.  We already have gotten more this morning than the last 2 storms combined.  Schools are closing left and right now.  For those in central and nw KS here is what Topeka is saying;

Winter Weather Advisory

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TOPEKA KS
349 AM CST TUE DEC 16 2008

KSZ008>012-020>024-026-034>036-038>040-161800-
/O.CON.KTOP.WW.Y.0009.000000T0000Z-081217T0000Z/
REPUBLIC-WASHINGTON-MARSHALL-NEMAHA-BROWN-CLOUD-CLAY-RILEY-
POTTAWATOMIE-JACKSON-JEFFERSON-OTTAWA-DICKINSON-GEARY-WABAUNSEE-
SHAWNEE-DOUGLAS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MARYSVILLE...HIAWATHA...CONCORDIA...
CLAY CENTER...MANHATTAN...ABILENE...JUNCTION CITY...TOPEKA...
LAWRENCE
349 AM CST TUE DEC 16 2008

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS
AFTERNOON...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS
AFTERNOON.

SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST
KANSAS TODAY. THE SNOW WILL REDUCE VISIBILITIES TO LESS THAN A
MILE AT TIMES. IN ADDITION ROADS MAY BECOME SLICK AND HAZARDOUS.
TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES ARE EXPECTED. THE SNOW
WILL BEGIN TO TAPER OFF DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON HOURS...HOWEVER
A PERIOD OF FREEZING DRIZZLE IS POSSIBLE LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS...
SLOW DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELING. BE PREPARED FOR
SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES.

Jeremy I apologize for posting that.  I read your post after I submitted it.  Doing to many things at once here -- I guess thats what overload is all about.

Just went out to get my paper here in Grandview - very light snow, very pretty coming down!  Speaking of schools out - why is it that the major districts in Missouri are closed but not in Kansas (Olathe, SM, KCKC, Blue Valley)  Is it really that much worse on the Missouri side?  am I missing something?  Not that I am complaining as I am a teacher on the MO side and love staying home with my wife and sons, but the question comes to mind . . . . . .

"Where I grew up this was called flurries:)"

Jeremy: That was so funny!!! LOL

I said earlier that maybe as you get out and play with the girls in the snow later today or tomorrow maybe we could swing you to the dark side...probably not huh!!!

Have a great day Jeremy-in all seriousness-I hope you do get to play some with the girls in the snow later today or tomorrow!!

Bill in Lawrence

Jeremy, the people where you grew up probably knew how to drive in this kind of weather, had the right equipment on their vehicles, and the city/county government folks were prepared for it as well.

Around here . . . not so much.

don't want to get ahead of today's event, but sheesh thursday sounds nasty. hope something changes with that one! but, probably not. you guys are just too danged accurate!!!

Why isn't USD 233 (olathe) distric closing! I refuse to go to school today! I am SICK AND TIRED of watching snow events through a classroom window! Can the weather team convinve me that school will be canceled? ANYONE! I know, you could call the district and recommend that they close for today.

My husband just called to tell me to stay home.  Side streets very slick, 24hwy not as bad but not good. Amazing what just a little snow can do.

Weather Team-
I am an early riser and I almost always miss your 10pm forecast and I leave for work before the 5am news so I will check channel 1442 when I get up in the morning but here lately it seems like the local forecast has not been on there as much as it used to be.  Not complaining...just curious as I like to see what the day is going to bring weather wise and I don't even bother watching the other channels.  I do know that I can always rely on the blog...it is usually updated by the time I get to work or shortly thereafter.

Thanks for all your hard work...you are the best weather team by far!

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Where do you live and what cable system do you have.  This may help us out...

Jeremy

I live in Gardner and have Time Warner.

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Are you getting the channel and just not the local forecast on the bottom?

Jeremy

Good Morning, All - coming down fast but with tiny flakes in Ottawa.
Jeremy, you said that Ottawa area should get around 3" but your weather graphic shows us getting 4.8" - what's up? Thanks, Channel 41 Weather Crew - you're the best!

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Here's where you need to help us.  How much snow have you picked up so far?

On the news I've been saying that Powercast has 3-4" for some southern areas like Ottawa and Pleasanton, but I'm just wondering how far north the south part of snow line progresses north.  You are so close to the line that I mentioned if it reaches some of these areas totals will be less.  Keep in mind our forecast is 2-4" today. 

Jeremy

I know my question probably wont get answered because it is about Thursday, but...if we get this precip that is possibly ice, etc., what time do you expect it to start for KC?  

I ask this now, in the midst of this storm, because my stomach is hurting while I struggle with whether or not to go to work today.  I really, really dont want to, but I'm afraid of using all of my vacation in two weeks and having nothing the rest of the winter.  If the Thursday "event" were to start later, I might at least get a 1/2 day.

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Thursday is really up in the air with temps so critical for precipitation type and start time.

Jeremy

I was wondering the same thing...Why are the major districts in Kansas open???

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So you can tell your kids someday you had to go to school in a snowstorm.

Jeremy

Thanks, Jeremy - right now I would guess that Ottawa is around 2" with more coming down fast. M\Is the forecast for more snow north or south? THANKS!

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Thanks for the update.  The southern snow line is right near Linn & Anderson counties.

Jeremy

They just had shawnee mission guy on, he said it's a light snow and buses are moving well, and he mentioned since there is no ice, they are having school...I am surprised not more schools are closed, but maybe they will close early?  Not safe to have teenagers drive in this weather.

Not the answer I wanted, Jeremy.  :)  Thanks... guess I'll just wait and pray for warmer temps.

Using the LRC, when do we expect this precip pattern to end?  Meaning, the fact that we are getting weather "events" every other day or so.  When can me possibly expect to see dryer weather for a "prolonged" period of time where we dont have to worry about whether it will snow/ice or not?

"So you can tell your kids someday you had to go to school in a snowstorm.

Jeremy"

- Just classic.  I love it. =)

My little girl (she's 10 so I guess she's NOT that little anymore) and was MAD about the snow day...She said, "We'll be going to school until July if this keeps going..."

I'm with her -- My nephew goes to school in the Shawnee Mission School District and he has to go...

Wish my kids were going too...

I grew up in Connecticut -- we RARELY got a snow day unless we got over 6 inches of snow overnight...

Sheesh...

Lol! Had to go to school in a snowstorm! Right? I grew up just south of Boston and I don't remember getting very many snow days... I guess i've been spoiled by all the snow days out here in KC! :)

8:30 and just a shade under 2" on the ground at Falcon Ridge in Lenexa

As far as schools go, I know that funding is dependent on attendance in Missouri, where it isn't in Kansas. That may be the reason why they are still in school. It seems to take a lot for Kansas to cancel.

10:03 and just short of 2" in Greenwood. Also, snow seems to have subsided.

My boys took several measurements on hard surfaces and we have at least 3" here in Blue Springs!

Town00, what part of Blue Springs are you at, N or S of the 40? I was just wondering because if you were not too far from me I could use your measurment as a guesstamint for me. All I know is that it is getting hard to see the line between the grass and the driveway. It is beginning to look like just one white surface.

My husband had to wake my youngest daughter up for school this morning. With in 3 minutes of him waking her up, the phone rang saying that there was no school. Poor kid got woken up only to be told to go back to sleep, must be rough! :-)

Also sorry Jeremy, I did not mean to violate a rule. I thought it was ok since it was the NWS.

Audra

snowing again in Greenwood

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