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It bears repeating y'all:
I know y'all get upset when we get upset about y'all doing the snow dance and so on, but those of us that are forced to travel and can't call in sick or stop what they have to do, ya know it doesn't make us feel too good when we see folks hoping for bad weather. Please just keep in mind that weather blog or not, some of us come to get updates so we can prepare for the have to travel blues. You can get all excited and dance all you want but have some respect for the ones of us that are worried about driving in this ice and heavy snow and risking our lives ok? Not all of us have situations where we can take a day off and set home in front of a fire.

Wheres the snow?

So I just watched Brett's video on the weather page where he says by early afternoon we may even see peeks of sun.  Is that still true, or is this cloudy, rainy, sleeting stuff going to last all day?  I wasn't sure when that video forecast was taped.

Large area of precipitation coming up I-35, looks like a direct hit on Kansas City.  My wife tells me there are quite a few accidents out there in the Lee's Summit area.

Pete

"There is a good chance that temperatures will be warming above 32 degrees this evening briefly which will help a lot on area roads."

Do you think this will happen before the pm rush hour?

Peeps, please stop the banter on "snow dance or no snow dance".  It's getting old.

the side streets in lee's summit are really slick. right at 31 degrees

In Olathe it's raining or freezing rain. I think it's rain it 33.1 here

Freezing rain in the Pleasant Hill area.  Sidwalks and driveways are ice covered with roads becoming slick.

My bosses husband said it was slick here in Overland Park. So, the real question is do you leave work now? Or will it get better later this afternoon when they can treat the roads and it warms up a bit.

Since Brett didn't mention the sun in his midday report, I'm going to assume that is no longer supposed to happen : (

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He mentioned sun for tomorrow afternoon!

Gary

Rain in stilwell. No icing so far lest hope it stays that way.

whirlygirl, i'm with you. this could be (is) very treacherous today and near-constant cheering for heavy snow i feel is insensitive. good luck on your travels today!

ok, Just check its nice and slick!! Please No rain!! It's winter time, snow,sleet,ice is for winter, and rain for spring and summer. Just Remember to drive Slowly, it' worth going fast to get in a accident, be late, and safe than sorry

My boss gave me a great Christmas gift.  He let me leave work early, knowing that I have to drive through this weather on my way to Mom's house in Texas.  That was before the Winter Weather Advisory.  I'm watching the 11:00 am broadcast, and will decide if I may just head for Wichita after 3:00 pm.  I love white Christmas' just as much as everyone else, but please, please, hold off until we all make it safely to our relative's for the holiday.

Happy Holidays, everyone!

132 and Roe very slick on sidewalks and driveways, hot yet out on road

33 in Grain Valley, just drove fron NKC to Grain Valley without problems.

Doesn't look like it is going to be that much snow! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep in under an inch in Lenexa! Thanks for all the updates and acurate forecast. You have no idea what it means.

my son just left Olathe (delivering some cheesecake orders) and he said it is getting quite slick there.  everyone please be careful.

RUC doesn't get it quite to freezing yet...

http://www.ready.noaa.gov/ready-bin/profile2.pl

Still 31 down here and no precip. Errrrr!!!!
Pleasanton

Sorry, but I'm with Whirly. I plan to leave about 1300 for my drive to KCI from western Shawnee. I will be going up 435 like always so any updates from people driving that stretch to I-29 before I leave will be most appreciated.
Jeri

Folks in general snow is more manageable and much easier to drive in than ice. There is no safe way to drive on ice - and I agree with the first blogger, there are people that must go out and it can be very stressful to know that ice might be on the reads.

White Christmas is great but safe and stress free Christmas is better.

Cheers!

John

The entrance and exit ramps to 71 Hwy in Harrisonville, MO are pretty slick.  Be careful in the parking lots too.

Raining steadily but doesn't appear to be freezing in south OP.

Within in the last 5 minutes here in Blue Springs the ice has changed to slush....it must be 32-33 degrees now.  

I'm at 32.5 here with all rain.  Strasburg MO

My wife called and said she had Thunder and Ice around 11:00 @ 135th & Metcalf

Here in McLouth Gary e have all rain, its about 32 and I know the radar is showing frozen precip but we have all rain.  Its been off and on for the last hour.  Sorry to hear about your road problems.  We have not had a wreck in our county all day.  People need to slow down and think just a little.  They act like they have never driven in this stuff before.  Of course it would help if they left ahead of schedule instead of being late.  It would also help if the roads could safely handle the amount of traffic on them and if there weren't so many people in the city to begin with.  But thats why they call it a city and we live out here in the real safe world.

Haven't heard any thunder, or seen any ice yet at 143rd & Metcalf...too weird, kellyofindependence!

Shawnee Mission Parkway around Roe traffic is moving normally.  It looks wet out there though...Anyone in Lenexa what is it doing out there?

I was just out for the last hour here in Lee's Summit. From my experience, alot of the less traveled side streets are a literal ice rink. I have a 4-wheel drive vehicle and with the slightest turn of the wheel, my car would slide out.

It was very dangerous out there. Im hoping it warms very quickly. I have things to get done!...lol

*** Peeps, please stop the banter on "snow dance or no snow dance".  It's getting old. ***

Agreed - what difference does it make that some want snow/no snow? Why do we have to repeatedly discuss the merits of either? We get it: it's enjoyable for some; stressful for others and sometimes it changes depending on the situation. What if we just let it go and focused on what is happening or might happen meterologically?

Be safe and/or have fun - whichever you prefer.

I live in Gardner and conditions got pretty bad pretty quick.  I ran into a store to do some last minute shopping and was in there for about 10-15 minutes.  When I got back out, it was extremely slick in the parking lot.  There was a tractor trailer that slid off the exit ramp and another uhaul of sorts that made it off the ramp before sliding in the wrong direction.  There have been several sirens going off for the past hour.  Slow dow, be careful, and take your time!  Don't be the person riding so closely behind someone else that they feel pressured to go a little bit faster than they are comfortable with.  Be safe!

Since we're picking sides today, I'm with Andrew and the others who enjoy winter for the snow, sleet, graupel, and ice it brings.  I'm not really a fan of winter, but since it's here it might as well produce.  I also have to drive from near Liberty to downtown for work every day.  This morning it was a touch slick on side roads but was certainly passable for someone with common sense and a respect for, but not fear of the conditions.  The drive home may or may not be as easy, but I'm not going to sit here and worry about it all afternoon.

While I can respect the fact that other people worry constantly about driving on slick roads, it also gets old for people like Whirlygirl to come on here everytime the conditions turn from sunny to stormy and tell us what we can and can't express.  This IS a weather blog and you ARE going to see people talk about how much they like inclement weather.  If you don't want to see that and instead just want an update on the road conditions, there are websites and phone numbers you can visit that give you just facts, without the opinions.  I suggest you use them.

11:42 - We just walked to our local video rental place here in Spring Hill, and the roads are slippery but not slick or iced.  Sidewalks, stairs, the grill and patio chairs have ice on them and there is light rain.

son got home from cheesecake delivery....said blue ridge cutoff between 63rd & raytown rd was ok, but raytown road has slick spots.  light rain continues to freeze onto the jeep.  be careful, ya'll!

tageis, I'm in Lenexa... 95th & Pflumm... and just ran (or slid) out to get some lunch.  Main streets aren't bad.  Just wet.  Side streets are hit and miss.  Parking lots and walkways are thick sheet of ice.  Just sprinkling now.

I'd much rather this mess switch over to snow and stay that way.  Raining here in NE Independence and I still have to make my way to Mission for work this afternoon. It's way easier to do that in snow than ice.

I have to vent for a second about the roads this winter. I normally have no problem with the road crews, but this season has been a total bust so far. The first snow "storm" 2 weeks ago today was a complete failure for pre-treating the roads. None of these storms have been surprises. Last weeks snow was treated pretty well, but this week is again a failure. I see rain on the radar at 7am this morning and I see that the temps are below freezing for many southern areas of KC as well as northern KC. Frigid road surface temps plus water=ice.

I have heard that some municipalities are trying to conserve salt this season. Is this the reason? I don't blame the guys out there in the trucks working all night long, I blame the leadership.

Flame away folks!

Good morning everyone

Louisburg has 32 degrees on the nose and freezing rain is falling. Ran to the grocery store and then slid right by the turn into our subdivision going 15 mph in a 4WD. All paved surfaces are ice-covered.

as the rain got heavier in blue springs it turned slushy instead of icy

Depends where you live I suppose - in Johnson county they have done a very good job so far. The trucks were out last night and have been out all day - keep in mind that rain cause havoc as it washes some of the treatment away.

I agree with Zazel.  This is a blog about weather and most people that read it get excited about the weather.  While we understand that some folks can't handle bad driving conditions, that is not what this blog is about.  If I feel like expressing my excitement about a snow and/or ice storm, this is where I come to do it.  

Can we please not have the stupid debate between the folks whol like snow and the folks driving in it again. Lets just agree that there are several types of people on here and skip the posts that offend you

I love weather.  All weather.  Andrew is right, it is winter time and it is not supposed to rain.  I would rather see snow than ice, at least while most people are out.  A good ice storm is very pretty to wake up to.  But in all things, I hope that others are safe and I wish no harm upon anyone.  So let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.  And may everyone get home for the holidays.

Thanks for the updates on what is going outside.  I am stuck in the basement and don't have a window in sight.

Sidewalks in the Crown Center courtyard are a sheet of ice.

People who want snow don't come here and complain when others come on here and wish for nice weather.  It's not like the people wishing for snow and winter weather can actually make it happen.  I don't really see what is so disrespectful about wishing for snow.  Or saying "alright snow" or " I'm doing the snow dance".   It's NOT like they are saying hay I wish for bad road conditions so that so and so has a hard time getting to there families.  Snow is a natural part of winter and some people like it.  It's gonna happen at some point whether you like it or not.  No body has any control over it. You are entitled to your opinion of wanting nice weather but to ask someone else to withhold their opinion of wanting snow just cause it might offend someone is not fair.  I don't mean any disrespect with this post either and I hope no one took it that way.   Drive safe out there.  

Zazel, I am sure all Whirly was referring to was the ice wishes and maybe sometimes the over enthusiam that some go on about ok?. Winter lovers love snow, like I love storms so I can go chase with Sean in the spring. However, I am aware that each brings trepidation for some people. Sure this is a weather blog but shouldn't we be as respectful of people's fears as people want us to be about their thrills? While loving spring storms I am pretty sure I never did a ..um... tornado dance LOL

Was just out in Lee's Summit...

YUCK -- That's the word for today...

A little bit slick -- I'm home and I'm GLAD!!

Here at 68th Terr. and Oak, driveway and sidewalks are slick with a slushy/icy mix.  Still raining lightly.  Temps look to be around 32-33˚. Haven't tried to get out on the roads yet since my driveway slopes down towards our garage and don't know if I could get the car out since the driveway is still slick.  Dea

I left the college at 10:45, a little icy on the windshield but roads were fine..Once I was on 69 hwy north, changed to rain.  Got home (87th & Metcalf) just fine, was still only raining at 11:00..A half an hour later I was headed out to finish xmas shopping with my three year old daughter, and we both nearly wiped out on our driveway that had since turned into a sheet of ice.  Now at noon, both the cars(even the warm one) are glazed over..I was unsuspecting because I thought the changeover to rain, once it happened, would last for a little while..I think I need to pay more attention even though I've been glued to the computer on this blog and NWS all morning at work and should've known better..be careful everyone!

My advice -- If you don't need to be out -- Stay home, light a fire, and read a good book!!

I'm just about to do that!!

BTW -- I'll take some snow -- I would like to wake up to about an inch of snow in the morning so that I have a white Christmas this year!!

But an inch is all I want...

Thanks!!

WOW!!! I just ran our AWD Pacifica off the road at Hook and Pryor in Lee's Summit. I took my wifes car today to get the oil changed for our trip to St. Louis tomorrow morning. I took a left onto Hook and slid right off the road at 5mph. Thankfully, I slid off onto a flat area of mud and gravel and I got back onto the road. The back roads were completely ice covered, however, since I got home ( I was a mile a way ) it has started to rain/sleet and seems to have melted some of the ice on the roads.

Very Slick Peeps!

The bad side to this; is my wife took my Chrysler 300C (Got HEMI???) to work. Bad, bad move on my part. I am just hoping that rush hour for her will be ok.

With regards to Whirly Girl; I AGREE!!!! However, I would definately take snow over over ice right now. I have to pick up my daughter Grace from daycare. They have announced they are closing early today. So I have to go back out in this and given the choice; I would take the snow over ice.

I'm not down with people cheering for bad weather, but at this point I would rather have it snowing, than continue on with this rain/sleet/Ice.

The rooftops are iced over and the decks and trees are building with ice.

Be extremely careful folks. The safe in Have a Safe and Happy Holidays bodes well right now.

Merry Christmas!!!! May the Lord Bless each and everyone of you!

Mike in LS

Hey Everyone.. I am one of a few schools in session today and they are not letting us go early... can anyone update me about how roads on I-70 are doing.. i have leave at 4pm today so what's going on... I'm very nervous about driving in this weather

Ummmm What?!?

http://wxcaster.com/gis-gfs-snow-overlays.php3?STATIONID=EAX

I assume that is pulling Data for Saturday too but... WHAT?

Update from south OP!  Ice is forming on the sidewalks and grass.  It's slicker than snot on a door knob.  Parking lot and streets still look ok so far.  Will we thaw out before the pm rush?  I'm starting to worry about the grandparents driving up from Wichita...looks like they'll be seeing the whole mix of wintry weather on the way.  Yikes!  Be careful out there everyone.

Well the rain has slowed down so now the temp has dropped from 32.5 to 32.2.  Not much of a change but if it continues down it will freeze.  I am guessing that the rain falling made it warm above freezing and now that the rain has slowed down it may cool again to under freezing.  Be careful out there guys.  

Indeed this is a weather blog and not an ice blog, tornado blog, or snow blog. The discussion should focus on weather, and I am amazed at the lack of sensitivity that some folks are displaying here. Enjoy the discussion - learn about the weather - and be respectful of everyone else.

Jeri,

Sean moved. :( And hise website is ending on Jan 1st.


Trees are getting a very pretty galzing of ice now here in olathe! 33.1 F

When did ice, tornadoes, and snow stop being weather?  And how is wishing for snow so insensitive?  

The ice is sorta deceptive out there...roads are all fine but some sidewalks are surprisingly slick.

What amazes me and I find disrespectful is people coming here and actually thinking they can tell people what not to post here.

24hr forecast:  

http://204.2.104.196/gfs/WINTER_GFS0P5_SFC_ACCUM-SNOW_24HR.gif


Snow Dancing!

jstonemo- The last I had heard on salt usage was that all of the cities in this area were short because the suppliers were low from last year and hadn't been able to fully restock.   If that's accurate, then they have to watch the stocks pretty closely to avoid having no salt at all for the later part of the season.

Everybody watch your step and your driving today.

I agree RDub--puddles are still puddles on roads and parking lots here, but the sidewalks are very ugly.  I do love the way the grass/trees look with the ice over them, though.

ScottR.

Weve seen that map happen multiple times this season already. Remember this is Kansas City. That map is great to look and and wonder, but NO WAY it happens.

Just no way...

 Very windy and cold with heavy freezing rain.  1/10th or 1/11th of an inch of ice everywhere. 1/5 on pwoerlines wich are swinging threateningly.
Currently 30 degrees with roads icing up!

 How long will it be like this?

 Very windy and cold with heavy freezing rain.  1/10th or 1/11th of an inch of ice everywhere. 1/5 on pwoerlines wich are swinging threateningly.
Currently 30 degrees with roads icing up!

 How long will it be like this?

We're getting rain and a few sleet pellets every now an then in Lenexa. The temps rise above freezing, but every time it starts raining, temperatures fall back below freezing. Right now we are 31.9 and rain, a few minutes ago we were 32.4 and no rain.

David

I am not a snow lover by any means, especially if I have to drive in it, and I never really wish for snow.  However, it's not the snow "dancers" and those rooting for snow that bother me so much, I can understand why some love the snow so much -- but it's the few like we had last week that were cheering for the ice that I just dont understand.  I dont know how ice is ever a good thing, unless its on a skating rink or in your glass.  

That being said, the first winter I was on the blog, it really bothered me hearing these people cheering for snow.  However, now I've found it's just easier to ignore their posts and move on for the more informative posts.  I for one am just hoping that everyone makes it to their destinations safely the next couple of days!!

Gary or Brett -- any chance the roads are going to get better as the afternoon rolls on, or do we have what we are going to have?

Nice Andrew,

Im beginning to wonder if these GFS maps on wxcaster are consistently overdone.

Id be shocked if we even came close to a widespread 6-8 inch snowband in the northern areas.

agreed twistedsisters, i think if someone wants to say snow dance let them say it. If it bothers you that much than do not come on here.

Twistedsisters you are missing the point and that speaks volumes - this is a PUBLIC forum and you must behave in a certain way and respecting others is never a bad idea. You can enjoy the forum and enjoy the weather while respecting everyone. Since when respect became telling someone not to post? Your logic is very flawed.

Thats kind of what I was eluding to Andrew... Its like ummm nope.  Not gunna happen.

Woops!

Very windy and cold with heavy freezing rain.  1/10th or 1/11th of an inch of ice everywhere. 1/5 on powerlines wich are swinging threateningly.
Currently 30 degrees with roads icing up!

How long will it be like this and how much snow will we get at JoCo Airport?  The easier answer may be snowfall...2 to 3 inches are possible.  The rain should end 2 pm.  Brett

Freezing rain here in La Cygne... coming down pretty steady. The sidewalk and driveway are iced over. My collie slipped on the ice when I brought her in. Poor girl!!

Here in eastern jackson county it is very slick and everything is covered with ice.  Stay inside people!  Hope everyone has a wonderful christmas and stays safe!

Snowfall - Average Total In Inches (including ice pellets and sleet)

VALDEZ, AK  326.0"

FLAGSTAFF, AZ  100.3"


KANSAS CITY, MO  19.9"

HONOLULU,HI   0.0

In Gardner the rain has intensified and the wind is really strong.  I'm not sure what the current temp is here but the rain appears to be freezing as it hits the ground.  

Just rain in the Crossroads area. Roads seemed to be good.

Liberty/Shoal Creek:  Very light rain, no icing, temp 33f

This freezing rain/ice event down in La Cybge is worse than the one that was suppose to happen last wednesday. How frustrating today's weather must be to the weather team!

Just cloudy/breezy with 33 here in St. Joe!

Song For Andrew ☺

MT. WASHINGTON, NH   260.6" Annual

♫ Heaven, heaven is a place. A place where snow falls, all over the place. ♫

When I was growing up the Futurists claimed cities would be under giant glass climate controlled bubbles.  (With hover cars flying around in them)

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Are you sure you weren't watching the Jetsons:)

Jeremy

Just came in from walking to lunch downtown (10th & Broadway) - the sidewalks are ice coated and VERY slick.  The streets were not so bad where vehicles have been driving on them.   Yes, I walked in the street !

We are hovering just above freezing in Stilwell and it seems to keep roadways just wet and not icy - I think however that even a small distance from here it could be drastically different.

Just drove from OP to Gardner, didn't have any problems anywhere that had been salted. However, there was a really bad wreck on I35 North right past Gardner Exit. Looked like a car spun out and a large commerial truck it hit! So, be careful.

Here in Gardner, Kansas. Very slick on sidewalks and roads. There was a truck that slid off I 35 and 56 hiway when I was getting lunch at McDonalds. Please be careful everyone.

Not much precip in Platte City.  Roads and sidewallks are doing fine.

Right now I have a light rain...not freezing right now but my hubby was outside and he thought it was trying to change over, temp 32 degree's still. Enjoy the weather for those of us who do not have to get out and safe travels for those that do.
Monica
Pleasanton, KS

Anyone know the road conditions on 169, from say Broadway Bridge to 152? *** Looking at the radar, there doesn't seem to much precip up that way, and we haven't had any reports of any accidents north of the River in the last three hours.  Brett

Just checking in...again!!!!

Currently at 34 in SW Lawrence-we have had just a few passing bouts oif rain-nothing much at all here as the band has set up just to our south. Sorry to hear about all the problems in KC-Lawrence got lucky on this part as everything has melted that was iced up earlier.

Couple observations:

1. Looking at the 18Z surface charts you can see (I think??) the front about to pass through Concordia, Kansas-places behind the front have dropped back into the middle 20's. Will be interesting to follow this front as I am guessing it will have an affect on how the energy tracks later toinight.

2. I think on the water vapor imagery, one can see the energy getting its act somewhat together and it is beginning to round the base of the gerneral western trough and head out. Something to watch I think

3. Regarding Lawrence specifically: I wonder if today's radar trends are possible a precursor to how the bands set up tonight-that goes against the models etc. but it seems that in these types of situations where one has two bands of precip. that the first band can give a clue as to how the second one will line up. Interesting to watch radar trends tonight for sure!!

4. I posted in the previous blog: I think Saturday for sure has possibilities but man to look at it from run to run of the GFS will age you about 100 years-just look at the diffferences between the 0z and 12Z runs. I do personally feel that given history and this year's LRC (moe in ramblings in previous blog on this LOL) Saturday could definately produce something-will be interesting to see how it looks Thursday and Friday.

Stay safe everybody!! It is kind of neat to see-well at least I think I see this correctly-the players for tonight taking the field-will be fun to see how they all play tonight and tomorrow morning!!

Have a great afternoon

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

Glad to hear all is quiet in your area.  I'm in Milwaukee where there is more snow on the ground than I've ever seen before.  This includes December of 2000 which produced 35" for the month!

So far today there has been 3" of snow, another 1" this afternoon.  Then on Wednesday another 3-5".  People are sick of the snow here, but since it snows almost everyday recently people don't even seem to notice anymore.  If anyone really wants to live in an area with snow you need to move north to either Wisconsin, MN, or the Dakotas.

I'll take some picture to share next week!

Jeremy

PilotS77 yes it is true that "This is a PUBLIC forum and you must behave in a certain way and respecting others is never a bad idea." But wishing for snow or even ice is not disrespectful or even insensitive.  But telling someone what they can and can not post, like their wish for snow or ice is.  They have every right to post their wish for snow just as much as others have a right to come here and wish for sunshine.

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OK...enough.  We can all share ideas but we don't need to go through the back and forth of what to say and not say.  We have another exciting weather day on our hands so lets enjoy it from a weather standpoint.  No one really wants people to get hurt or injured from any type of weather event whether it be heat, snow, ice, tornadoes, etc.  So lets just keep discussing the weather and focus less on monitoring others comments.  If someone is out of line we will address it.  We really don't want to turn the comments section of the blog off now or in the future.  This is meant for everyone...carry on.

Jeremy

Here in Greenwood it is still sleeting and our deck steps and front porch are covered in ice. I am warm in house and will be staying inside.
Have a Merry Christmas

here in midtown (59th & troost) starting to slick up....seen a couple of cars slide through the intersection--of course, there are frequent accidents there anyway, not sure why.  Just take your time, be aware, and be careful....sidewalks and parking lots here seem worse than streets in this neighborhood.

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Great advice!  I think in some regards we are lucky the temps aren't 1-3 degrees colder.

Jeremy

Just light rain and windy, no freezing on either sidewalk or street in my area of Independence.  I agree with what Pilot said, if given the choice, I'll drive snow covered roads vs. ice covered.  After watching the 11 am forecast and seeing how fast it will turn from snow to sunshine tomorrow, I'm staying put and not heading for Texas till morning.  100 miles (I drive a 4x4 truck) and I'm "home free".  Stay safe, everyone!

Jeremy,

You are supposed to be on vacation! Lucky for u, u see about 3-5 ft of snow up there... right? :)

Here in Greenwood it is still sleeting and our deck steps and front porch are covered in ice. I am warm in house and will be staying inside.
Have a Merry Christmas

ZAZEL = POTD

Well said.

People.... calm down please. Some of you don't like it when us snow lovers get all excited about snow. And we are sorry for that, at least I am....But come on now.. Our Supreme Leader GARY get's more excited than all of us combined.

Do you watch the news? He has a snow garments for crying out loud... a snow vest, a snow tie, I bet he even has snow underwear! I LOVE IT!

I love the snow and the more the merrier! As for getting around I drive a 4WD and like driving in the snow... ice no. I don't like ice storms, the last big one cost me $3,000 on tree damage alone, which insurance did not cover.

As for the blog just being for weather only I don't think that was Gary's intent either, should we learn and become more informed about the weather... yes... that is why we watch him, he does more than just tell us what the weather is like he helps us learn about the how and the why's of weather.  

However from my viewpoint this blog is also for posting and delivering information, road conditions, snow totals, rain totals, etc....

I say as long as it is civil, not profane, and  weather related than go ahead and post.  My two cents.... for whatever it is worth.

Temps here at Red Bridge and Blue River Rd.  33.75 degrees, and raining... some spots are slick, just depends what the surface is....

Sam Davidson - Faciltiy Manager - Children International
AKA: Suburban Sam - OUT

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I just addressed this to everyone. 

Jeremy

just talked to one of our administrators.... they are not calling school yet...

Thanks, Brett!  Do you think we can expect road conditions to be about the same as they are now when rush hour comes along?  If so, I think I'll be very happy!

I wish for sunny. 85 Degrees. Small puffy clouds floating overhead.  It's summertime, and the living is easy.

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You forgot...the pool is open then too!

Jeremy

NO one wishing for ice or snow, ever wishes for someone to get hurt because of these weather events.  It is a unique weather phenomenon and therefore there are those of us that get excited about it.  Heat causes more weather related deaths then any other event.  Will you blast those individuals for hoping for 90 degrees and sunny?

Matt
Moderate rainfall- no icing (at work) in Independence

Is there snow falling anywhere in the KC metro yet?  By looking at the map at weather.com, it looks like its snowing from Lee's Summit to Independence to Liberty and east.

Sorry Jeremy and the weather team.  I did not mean for it to look like I was monitoring others comments.  I will bite my tongue from now on.  :) Thank you and have a Merry Christmas.

I agree with Bill in Lawrence.  It is dry as a bone up here as for those maps that show 6-8 or 12-15 inches throw them in the trash tired of looking at them.

You forgot...the pool is open then too! Jeremy
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Oh yeah Thanks for the reminder let me visualize that one.

Ker SpLaSh !!!!!!!

Continues to rain (just rain) and the temperature reads 33.6 - the road seem fine but overpasses - decks and sidewalks are getting slick.

John (Stilwell)

I can hear the "rain" tink against the windows, so I don't think it is all rain. Lots of wind here in Lee's Summit, near Colbern and the 7.

And a tip for all of those of you who have had issues with their furnaces during the cold (I wish this was why mine keeps acting up), by husband's boss had his furnace go out yesterday in their house. The repair man came out and appearently with higher effecency furnaces moisture can freeze the air exhaust pipes closed. I guess they spit out moisture when they vent the exhaust and that moisture freezes when it hits the cold air. So if it is really cold outside and your furnace is not working at all, go outside and check the air intake and exhaust pipes or any pipes that are covered in ice. Make sure that they are not frozen over. If they are, knock off the ice and you should be good to go. You will get heat faster than waiting for an over worked furnace repair guy to come.

@billinlawrence - I always enjoy your posts. Thanks for your valuable input.

We were just on main street in Belton at 11:20 and my poor daughter got out of the car and feel flat down.  Whomp and she was gone on the other side of the car.  I then heard her laughing and was relieved.  Whew!   When we came out after lunch at 12:30ish there was even more ice.  Be careful everyone!!

I know some of you need to travel...  Here are two links to check out for KS and MO:  http://www.ksdot.org and http://www.modot.org  Please stay safe for those of you who need to travel.  Conditions are slick especially on sidewalks and driveways.  Be careful driving on area roads..  Parts of my street are icy.  Sometimes KansasCity.com has links for weather and road updates.  Here's the link:  http://www.kansascity.com/

Kristi

I just saw a snow flurry and cracked a smile. I'm sorry. I really don't hate Baby Jesus because I may like snow.

** Seriously,
Some of the folks here need to just grow up! I do read some of the most silly comments on this blog. Please, think about what your typing before you hit submit here. Just because you dislike snow or freaky weather is no reason to jump another person because they might. Just because some may want severe thunderstorm does not mean they wish folks to be killed or homes destroyed by a F5. It's absolutely ignorant to assume so.  This doesn't people should not post, but they need to realize this is a public forum and rule #1 on the internet is 95% of the other people on the internet won't agree with you.  

The drama on this blog needs to end... bleh!

/get off my lawn!
//Merry Christmas!

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It's been addressed....so no more of these posts please.

Jeremy

Roads seem to be fine in south OP.  Cars are zipping by at normal speed.

Leavenworth, or just north of checking in with not so much as a drizzle, snow flake or anything, temps are at 32 and winds are light.......Feels like snow to me...

LOL @ DaveC.......>Get off my lawn

What are the thoughts anyone for the weather on New Years Eve? We have to pick up a friend at MCI around midnight New Years Eve and I am hoping that the roads won't be slick from weather. Plus if the roads are bad, that would equal more accidents from people drinking and driving.

33.4 still here

Very spooky outside with 1/10"th of ice to 1/4"th of ice. Dark skies and windy making everything crack and sanp and powerslines swaying dangerously near JoCo Airport. The Roads are very slippery!

Listen I'm sorry, just like other people have said, I don't want anybody to get hurt or killed, winter, and spring is interesting to me.


Everybody have a Merry CHRISTmas, and a happy new year! and please don't forget the reason for the season.. not presents,snow,ice,or sleet, or rain,etc.

I'm curious about the roads around Louisburg.  Heard the sand trucks were out earlier, but am wondering if 69hwy is getting slick down there.  Last week was a nightmare south of 179th--lots of cars off the road.  Anyone posting from that area?

http://weather.unisys.com/gfs/4d/gfs_pres_4d.html

Sure wouldn't mind that model solution to become reality on Saturday....that is if it's cold enough for it to be snow.

Eagles most I can offer is from the spring hill side.  169 was closed earlier due to ice and accidents.  The roads seem to be ok for the most part but elevated surfaces (Decks, some sidewalks) are quite slick there.

I just came back from lunch. The roads around the plaza are just wet. However the sidewalks and parking lots have some slick spots.

Light rain still falling here in Drexel. All pavement and decks are solid sheets of ice, and the trees have a light glazing as well. Im with farmgirl on this one, it is worse than the predicted ice last week.

Brad.......could be a possibility.....


FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SLIDE THROUGH THE AREA ON
SATURDAY...ASSOCIATED WITH TWO UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES. WHILE THE
AIRMASS TRAILING THIS FRONT IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE PARTICULARLY
COLD...IT APPEARS TEMPERATURES WILL FALL TO OR BELOW
FREEZING...SUPPORTING A CHANGEOVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW. AN UPPER LEVEL
WAVE TRAILING THE INITIAL FRONTAL SURGE MAY BE STRONG ENOUGH TO
PROVIDE A FEW BURSTS OF HEAVY SNOW ACROSS PARTS OF THE OUTLOOK AREA
ON SATURDAY MORNING AND AFTERNOON...THOUGH THE EXACT TRACK AND
INTENSITY OF THIS SYSTEM REMAINS UNCERTAIN. EMERGENCY MANAGERS AND
THOSE PLANNING ON TRAVEL THIS WEEKEND WILL NEED TO CLOSELY MONITOR
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PRODUCTS FOR UPDATES ON THIS POTENTIAL
WINTER STORM.

My best friend just left my house and about broke her behind going down my front steps -- VERY slippery in Lee's Summit.  She said the drive over was "white knuckle central" -- Hope everyone is inside and warm...

I'm enjoying a nice cup of hot tea and hanging out on the computer...

Happy Tuesday everyone!

I am getting ready to head from Downtown to Lee's Summit I will post my opinions on the conditions hopefully within the hour.

nothing here at the fort.  nothing at all.  breezy and dry.  

bill, you can see the front on the visible satellite image loop..its the U shape throughout the western half of KS into CO:

http://adds.aviationweather.gov/satellite/displaySat.php?region=ICT&isingle=mult_big&itype=vis

when will it get here though? thats the question.

Gonna send you a pick, Jeremey/Gary, of all the ice we got. I think the most is on our drive way???

roads are ok here in S OP, but the driveways and sidewalks have a layer of ice on them, very slippery!

Hi Eagles-I am a Louisburger! I live off of the 247th St exit-69 was not too bad this way-got back about 45 minutes ago from Overland Park. The weird thing was the huge blue light in the sky-power lines. The whole town of Louisburg had no power when we drove through. we live 2 miles north of town and we still have power. Be careful everyone!

When I left for lunch about an hour ago near I-70 & Admiral, most of the sidewalks and driveways were very slick.  During the time I was out for lunch they seem to of improved quite a bit, so it must of just jumped a degree or two above freezing, but just enough to help a little bit.

Thanks for the updates and all you guys do to keep us informed on our often crazy KC weather.  We really appreciate your hard work and dedication to the residents of KC and surrounding areas.  It's good to know that we can make the proper plans and be safe when checking your forecasts and regular updates.  Thanks Gary, Brett, Jeremy and everyone and Merry Christmas.

Hey, Gary, where's the 1:00 update? I want to send it to my boss as a reason he should send us all home early.

Why has everybody been so cranky latley?

Maybe we will all get 3" and it will be a festivus miracle!

Does that actually work Lefty?

good plan if it does.

Oh Debster, don't say we're without power!  I'm coming from OP also, and I live right smack-dab in the middle of town, so the outage doesn't sound good for me.  I've got pets at home!  Although, I shouldn't be surprised--it seems we have a power surge whenever I sneeze in the wrong direction.  Glad to hear the roads are ok, though.  Thanks so much for the update.

I've seen some eerie blue lights in the sky coming home occasionally when the weather was icky.  I was listening for the trumpets to start sounding! LOL.  Very cool to see!

34 degrees in the Ottawa area.  Major roads are just wet, and I have seen many salt/sand trucks passing by.  Side roads are slick in spots, but overall in pretty good shape.  Everything seems to be getting better as the day progresses.

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It's been addressed....so no more of these posts please.

Jeremy

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Agreed it's been addressed, but to be clear, what exactly is the policy? Is it OK to talk about how much we love or hate certain weather?

Not trying to be a smart-aleck, but clarity is good thing.

Juba -- I think everyone is cranky because it's WINTER...

I need summer...

I need the pool, a tan, a nice summer cocktail, etc.

It's only day 3 of winter and I'm ready for it to be over with already...

And WHY do I live in Missouri?!?

does anyone know if a site will let you see how your drive to another state will be, ie road conditions? driving to CO on Saturday and wanted to check it out

Brrrrr.  Sort of icy in east Independence.  I was out in the yard taking care of a few things and could hear the ice on the trees cracking.  I'm excited about the snow.  

Speaking of the snow...what's the latest?  I've been off the blog for a while.

DL

C.. try the DOT site in the state your visiting.  I was doing that this summer when planning for my vacation.  I had all the road construction and flooding marked and an emergency route planned.

Hope u have a very safe and happy journey

Sorry. Don't mean to be cranky. I've just got a long drive home and am looking forward to getting an update from a source I trust.

Here's the link for Colorado Traveler Information:  http://www.cotrip.org/

Kristi

C in Raymore -

Colorado Road Conditions - http://www.cotrip.org/rWeather/All_Regions_122308_132403.html

KAnsas Road Conditions -
http://511.ksdot.org/KanRoadPublic_VE/Default.aspx

Where y ou headed in CO?

New blog

  There are at least two other popular weather websites that have been giving statistics/probabilities/pro/con conditions etc. for a white christmas for almost every region of the CONUS for about a month now...so there is obviously a demand for such information for those who are hopeful/waxing nostalgia/or maybe just want a refresher on the last time they saw one(personally it is nostalgia/hopeful...for me there was nothing more beautiful and serene waking up to a blanket of snow on Christmas morning, bonus if it was still falling when it came time to head out to my Grandparents)  I am not trying to be contrary by sharing how I feel about snow...and I do not have the luxury of staying at home when it occurs either.  Just merging onto 69 hwy north off of 435 on bone dry pavement posed such a daily threat to my health and automobile that I ultimately ended up going another way home...And driving in the rain blinds me.  I could go on and on about what makes driving so dangerous weather related or not, not even factoring in individual liabilities.  I love this blog, it will be my third and a half winter having a blast tracking the storms, feeling the elation when they produced, the frustration when they didn't, and regardless of either...loving the entries first by Gary and Jamie, and then afterward when Jeremy got on board (not forgetting Brett and Jeff either) And above all the personal interaction from the weather team and the time they take to inform and educate... not just in the frequent blog entries, but also in the time they devote to giving personal responses...all together has made this such an extraordinary community that I feel fortunate to be a part of...I am sorry this is so long winded, but weather has been a lifelong passion of mine since childhood...severe weather in the spring, the smell, color and sunsets of autumn, and the cold and snowstorms of winter(summer is my down season), and this blog has been a haven of (mostly) like-minded people.  There have been a couple of exceptions, but for the most part everyone here is bound by a common thread-the love of weather in general (or a specific type), forecasting, and/or just watching and waiting for it to come in together...No one wants the danger or tragedy that can accompany any weather event.  Again I mean no disrespect, but if I can't express my excitement here that I might get to see snow falling in my backyard(hopefully with the good for "snowball and snowman"  type snow this time, or how I love the way the air smells when a thunderstorm is brewing because there is some danger involved, then I might as well go inside, lock the door and start worrying next about whether or not the chemicals in my carpet is really causing more pollution on the inside than out.  The (41 weather team) forecasts are usually dead-on..and I watch the newscasts to get them specifically.  I come here to read or talk about weather when there is an interesting/exciting event that is either imminent or on the horizon...and it is seriously a bummer when asked not to get excited about it because of it's associated hazards.  Just to clarify: I do not wish for ice storms, or to see tornadoes go through neighborhoods, or for anyone anywhere to get struck by lightning, lose everything in a flood, die of heatstroke, etc.  Love of weather does not equal love or desire for catastrophe on a large or small scale.  Again, sorry so long...this kind of touched a chord:)

yes winter has been around for 3 days but meteorological winter started december 1 =)

Sorry, I was writing that for awhile, and did not catch the cease and desist!

wwa has been extended until 6 pm.

The precipitation has stopped in Louisburg. The trees are holding on to a thin layer of ice (not enough to bend branches) and the sidewalks and driveways are skating rinks. I have not been back out on the roads since before noon.

Will be out testing them again shortly. Everyone stay warm and safe.

thanks everyone! we are going to Breckenridge for a little ski trip! Hoping the Saturday isnt too bad of a storm on i-70.