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Update...Thunderstorm and Snow Potential

9:30 AM update:  Showers & thunderstorms have shown signs of rapid formation in the past few minutes.  Some areas will likely have lightning, very heavy rain, and possible flooding by morning.  The latest data has the cold air advancing fast.  I will be talking about this in a few minutes at 10 PM on NBC Action News!

Previous entry below:

Happy Friday Night In The Big Town!

Hey bloggers, can you believe this weather. 3 below zero on Monday, light snow, freezing rain, light snow again, and now record breaking 66 degrees today (69 downtown).  It is still 65 degrees at 8 PM!  Here is the 8 PM surface map: 

The new data is coming out and the NAM blasts us with thunderstorms after midnight.  They may start forming at any time but as of 8 PM there isn't a radar echo to be found.  I am expecting thunderstorms to start developing as soon as this disturbance rotates around the base of the large scale storm over the 4 corner states.  I will be showing this at 10 PM.  Below, you can see our Powercast forecast for 7 AM.  The latest data has the temperatures dropping faster than I had though they would and it could be near 32 degrees or lower during the morning:

 

The NAM also shows the cold air just plow in here during the morning and we may be in the 20s by 1 PM.  The main disturbance is forecast to track northwest of us which is too bad for snow lovers.  I think there may be a band of heavy snow along and north of the vort max path.  Snowflakes are likely Saturday afternoon or evening, but any accumulation will be northwest of that storms path.  This may be easier to see by morning.  Before the chance of snow arrives there will likely be a heavy band of rain and thunderstorms.  Here is where the LRC comes into play as we are certain that a large area of rain and thunderstorms will form tonight and the cold front will be moving through this band of rain around 4 to 6 AM.  This has happened in many of our precipitation events since this pattern set up in October and we are expecting this mesoscale feature to show up again tonight. 

There may be some severe weather tonight but likely with just the first few thunderstorms that develop as this should line out and grow into a rain with embedded thunderstorm event after midnight.

We will be tracking these developments on NBC Action News at 10 PM and then again in the morning.

Gary

Published Friday, December 26, 2008 8:02 PM by glezak

Comments

 

BranDan9 said:

Gary,

You think a watch by 9 or 10pm as SPC said, what do you see for cape?

Andrew using bros account

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Andrew,

They cancelled that meso.  There is nothing developing yet so a watch isn't likely until midnight or so. And, if you read my new updated blog I think initially there could be a severe thunderstorm or two with hail the main threat, but then it should organize into a large area of rain with embedded thunderstorms.

Gary

December 26, 2008 8:10 PM
 

BranDan9 said:

nevermind I found the cape... I think?

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/upper/top.gif
December 26, 2008 8:13 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

The snow people will get their turn. It's only December for Pete's sakes. Meanwhile, we warm weather lovers will get a couple of treats this week that have to last us for awhile.
Monica, I used to have an Eskie when I lived in California. Sadly, he passed and I have the Wigglies...a golden lab and a golden.
December 26, 2008 8:13 PM
 

BranDan9 said:

December 26, 2008 8:14 PM
 

macnkc said:

Gary, how long will the storms last?
December 26, 2008 8:22 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Boy, I sure am looking forward to the quiet period next week. I need some undistrubed sleep. Last two weeks strong winds and ice storm potential/snow has me worn out.

Sure hope we don't get severe weather tonight. Don't think my insurance company will pay for another claim!!
December 26, 2008 8:42 PM
 

KCGladstone said:

Hey Gary,

I dont know what you have in store for the new weather channel once it starts on the 1st, but I wish you would have a daily LRC segment, showing what you are looking at and then what we can expect based on the cycle.  That would be pretty cool!  I wish also that you could have a long range spotlight...which shows a several week forecast...just as a guide based on the LRC and what you think might happen.  That would be something totally different than what the "other" and your former channel did.  I would love to see more educational stuff along with the forecast.  Also I wish you could be more in depth with the short term forecast as well!
December 26, 2008 8:48 PM
 

Holmes524 said:

I LOVE the snowy weather however today was AWESOME!!!  Took my daughter shopping and we didn't have to wear our heavy coats.  I must say today was a nice break from the winter weather.  We can now return to regular winter weather.
December 26, 2008 8:56 PM
 

KCNorth said:

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/uppermissvly_loop.php

I think you can barely see the start of it in front of the main line.  I am guessing we will see the bad stuff form to our west at Salina and move quickly to us.  I think things will get weird before they get better.

T-storms on 12/26 - sweet.  I also think the snow will be measurable here (Olathe).  Just a hunch.

December 26, 2008 8:56 PM
 

adroeg1 said:

Long time lurker here. We're sitting here visiting family in SE Kansas with an amazing warm-weather day. Still very warm here and windy as of 9pm. Anyone have a feel as to severe weather this far south? Very weird, but very awesome to have such a high potential for interesting weather on DECEMBER 26th! Merry Christmas...

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I just don't see it.  Maybe by around sunrise something may develop your way, but most of the activity should be northwest of you tonight.  Thanks for checking in!  I love the long time lurkers!

Gary

December 26, 2008 9:01 PM
 

Matt P said:

Gary,
   I'm packing up our truck tonight as we make our final trip for our move to Des Moines.  What time do you see rain in the Liberty area?
  Also, we will miss you guys.  You do a great job.  You're always exuberant, regardless of whether it's a hot summer day or a severe weather outbreak.  Your fascination, as well as the rest of the staff's, is why you're always at the top.
  It's been an interesting winter to say the least.  A few weeks ago, Chicago had its high temperature shortly after midnight, saw the temperatures drop into the teens during the day, and then saw them rise again after 8 p.m.  It was about as opposite as you can get.
  Thanks for all of your help since we've been here.  We'll miss NBC, but it's been snowing a lot in Des Moines, and I've been enjoying it.  I'll make sure to post and keep you guys in touch with any of the wild weather we see there.

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Enjoy Iowa weather.  You will definitely get more snow.  It should start raining within 3 hours.

Gary

December 26, 2008 9:02 PM
 

adroeg1 said:

Thanks, Gary, for the insight and the welcome! Nothing like being able to count on your hometown weather team even when you're not at home!  :)  You've made an 8-yr-old weather worrier (aka my son!) much more at ease...
December 26, 2008 9:25 PM
 

KCGladstone said:

Matt P,   they know how to drive in it for the most part up there.  Being an Iowa native, we could drive around in a foot of snow.  I am afraid that if a foot of snow fell here, things would possibly be crippled for a day or two!  Enjoy that snow.  I am glad I am here now!  The less the snow is better for me (sorry all the snow lovers!)
December 26, 2008 9:29 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Hey Gary,
You might want to change the update time to 9:30 p.m. instead of 9:30 a.m.
December 26, 2008 9:30 PM
 

Matt P said:

Gary, do you mean 9:30 "p.m." update?
December 26, 2008 9:30 PM
 

Erin said:

What would driving conditions be like in the morning?  Am I reading correctly from your updated blog that there would be rain in the morning and temps could be below 32-would that equal icy conditions?  Or, should I have read it that once the rains moves out, then temps would be in the lower 30's?  I have some running around to do in the morning and wanted to know how long to give myself...
Thanks!
December 26, 2008 9:32 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

A nice little cell is heading towards Shawnee, KS. It looks like thunder and lightning. Enjoy, all you weather lovers.  
December 26, 2008 9:34 PM
 

Dwxtracker said:

Lightning and thunder just to the west of Lenexa.

David
December 26, 2008 9:35 PM
 

Darkwolfe said:

adroeg1 said:
Thanks, Gary, for the insight and the welcome! Nothing like being able to count on your hometown weather team even when you're not at home!  :)  You've made an 8-yr-old weather worrier (aka my son!) much more at ease...
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If he's getting interested in storms, get him to a Skywarn class this spring.  He might find himself as a certified storm spotter! There's no age restriction.  I got mine when I was 9! (That's been 30 years ago!)

Wonder what would happen if the cold air injected faster than the current forecasting expects...  That could be fun.
December 26, 2008 9:37 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

you can see the cold front on the move in this link:

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/uppermissvly_loop.php

its right over omaha, moving quickly to the SE.  
December 26, 2008 9:39 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

I think I hear rain out there... sounds mighty heavy
December 26, 2008 9:39 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

Yep, steady medium shower goin on.
December 26, 2008 9:40 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Where are you 5kcmartins?
December 26, 2008 9:42 PM
 

johnj said:

Why do I get the feeling that our spring weather will be, um, interesting?
December 26, 2008 9:44 PM
 

adroeg1 said:

Thanks for the suggestion, Darkwolfe. I would love to do that myself, so maybe it's the motivation we need! We have some meteorology in the genes (so to speak) with my DH's uncle who teaches at OU. Maybe a quick tour through there this spring will be the catalyst to get us both started as spotters!  :) Sorry we're missing the little show in our backyard of Shawnee while we're away... Enjoy!
December 26, 2008 9:46 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

the 00Z NAM and GFS seem to be on the same page, on the NAM the main vort is a wee bit further south than the GFS...and also has slightly less post frontal precip than the gfs.  they both close off the low over us though, not a strong storm, but its closing off it appears.  it may just be me, but i think the two models are intializing poorly.  as i stated a minute ago, the front is already to omaha, and is moving somewhat quickly.  the models seem to be a little behind the curve.  maybe i am just misinterpreting them.  if im not, that could mean one of two things: first, that the whole system is moving faster than the models think, and it will close off east of us, leaving us relatively dry on the backside(more likely scenario)...or the cold air is going to intrude much quicker and we could perhaps not only have a cutoff cold core system, but we may tap enough cold air in the heavy precip to make something interesting happen(not so likely).  either way, we should know within 6 hours probably.
December 26, 2008 9:49 PM
 

LRCfan said:

nice lightning show to the northwest of leavenworth looks like atchison county ks is getting a nice storm.
December 26, 2008 9:50 PM
 

Dwxtracker said:

Tornado watch until 5am
December 26, 2008 9:50 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

tornado watch!
December 26, 2008 9:51 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Weather radio just went off, tornado watch.

Audra in Lee's Summit
December 26, 2008 9:51 PM
 

MikeandJenn said:

TORNADO WATCH!!!!
December 26, 2008 9:52 PM
 

farmgirl said:

YIKES~ Weather Radio just went off for Tornado Watch!! For Douglas, Leavenworth, Miami, Johnson and Cass.

I'm officially scared now. :(
December 26, 2008 9:52 PM
 

davidmcg said:

Yea my radio just went off.
December 26, 2008 9:52 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

things are really popping out there...
December 26, 2008 9:52 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

Weatherfreak

Bout 7 miles east of Village West
December 26, 2008 9:53 PM
 

PilotS77 said:

A tornado watch! December 26th - this is crazy!
December 26, 2008 9:59 PM
 

JeriCorrell said:

Cooooollll. Well, we had a little rain here at K-7 and SMPkwy. Not heavy though.

MattP, take care of yourself. It was nice getting to meet you this summer.
Jeri
December 26, 2008 10:00 PM
 

northlander38 said:

Whoa...the tornado watches are really flying. KC metro and points to the south and west just went under til 5am.
December 26, 2008 10:01 PM
 

lvsnow said:

pvt_murphy, what you mean things are really popping out there? I normally dont get to excited about tornado watches, is something showing up that Leavenworth might actually see something?
December 26, 2008 10:01 PM
 

MrSteve said:

Start spreading the news ♫
December 26, 2008 10:03 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

If a thunder storm during a snow storm is called thunder snow, what is it called when you have a tornado during a snow storm??  :-)
December 26, 2008 10:04 PM
 

KCNorth said:

pvt_murphy,

You are in Olathe, right?
December 26, 2008 10:04 PM
 

Ipushsnow said:

Thunder and lightening and heay rain in Holt.
WOW is it spring?
December 26, 2008 10:04 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

I am officially creeped out now...  A TORNADO WATCH???? and I just looked at the radar, yea I'm thinking that I should be watching for a man in 50's attire walking into my yard and starting to explain "to an audience" about how this average " midwestern" thinks they are enjoying a nice Christmas weekend, but little do they know...
A December tornado watch wow :0 IT JUST THUNDERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 10:06 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

ahh, thanks 5kckmartins. I was wondering where it was raining a few minutes ago.

It is really cool how quickly these cells are popping up and moving.
December 26, 2008 10:06 PM
 

WEATHERdude said:

................. welll uhh i loaded the NWS screen, looked at it, laughed, clicked refresh.... and then cheered!

well you know i suppose anything can really happen in kansas! haha
December 26, 2008 10:07 PM
 

DaveC said:

Canadian Geese in the pond across the street are flipping out tonight.
December 26, 2008 10:09 PM
 

chieffan07 said:

Ok, I'm freaked out. How worried should I be about Tornados actually happening tonight in the Liberty area?

Thanks
December 26, 2008 10:10 PM
 

5kckmartins said:

tornado during snow... well, how bout slippery whirl lol
December 26, 2008 10:11 PM
 

bewild79 said:

can anyone tell me how long it will take for my weather radio to pick up the watch cuz it was not on when it was issued..
becky
December 26, 2008 10:14 PM
 

farmgirl said:

I'm in the basement now. Got the hideaway pulled out, rabbit ear TV fired up (fuzzy, but I can still see Gary!), checked the batteries in the radio and flash light. Need to go and get my shoes and car keys and bring the rat terrier downstairs. Big dogs will have to ride out the storms in the garage.

I haven't gotten over last Springs crazy weather. Got no fingernails left.
December 26, 2008 10:19 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

I have no idea Becky. I leave my weather radio on 24/7/365. I figure you never know when weather is going to happen and I would rather have the comfort of the radio always plugged in and on. But that is just me..
December 26, 2008 10:19 PM
 

Matt P said:

Jeri,
    It was definitely great meeting you.  I also wish you the best of luck.  
Nick Rau,
   I liked your comment about Rod Serling.  I guess I'm dating myself here.
DaveC,
   when the animals get spooked, it's time for us to get spooked.  I know our old golden retriever was in our house when Hurricane Gloria dropped a tree on the house in 1985.  In 1990, when Hurricane Bob hit, she started acting weird a couple of days before.  Also, that morning there were no birds to be found anywhere, and the house was surrounded by woods.  Those animals know.
Chieffan07, I wouldn't worry.  Carl Peterson just resigned.  You're on a lucky streak.  LOL!!!

December 26, 2008 10:21 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Also Becky, you can go to www.noaa.gov/wx.html. click on the current weather warnings. This will bring you to a page that shows the US and where all the watching, warnings, etc are. That way you will know for sure if you are under the watch.
December 26, 2008 10:21 PM
 

Matt P said:

Becky, I had that happen before.  However, once the warning was issued, it went on.  Also, I'm like weatherfreak01.  Nobody on earth knows when we'll really be hit by a storm.  Remember, there have been a few tornado outbreaks the last few years in January and February, including in Missouri.  You're better off with it always on.

December 26, 2008 10:22 PM
 

mstauss said:

No rain here in Trimble, MO yet.  It is still 63 with a 12mph wind from the south.  I can see the lightning from the storm near Holt and the storm near St. Joe.  Mostly intracloud but I did see one CG stroke while I was outside.

The lightning detector is starting to pick up on the storms.  It's zeroed in on the one to the east but it seems a little confused on the storm to the north west.  Data from the detector can be found here.  http://www.houseofstauss.com/weather/lightning.php

I also have a storm composite radar site from GRLevel3 software that shows many radar views of the storms that can be found here.  http://www.houseofstauss.com/weather/severestormradar.php

Will post any rain event if it occurs or any lightning pics if I decide to grab my camera and I get lucky.
December 26, 2008 10:24 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Matt P.
I totally agree! The day before the Northridge, CA earthquake in Jan. I noticed that the fire ants were out of the ground and "running" around. They normally sleep during the Winter. I too watch the animals. An example is flocks of birds in my backyard looking for food before it gets really cold.

Don't freak out about all this folks, I'm not saying that we will get a tornado just because Fido is acting weird. For the record, my little dogs are sleeping so soundly, I'm surprised that they are not snoring!  :-)

December 26, 2008 10:27 PM
 

Ronnie said:

Becky, your radio isn't going to pick up the watch.  The signal already went out.  It's not continuous.
December 26, 2008 10:28 PM
 

davidmcg said:

Paola has a good cell on top of it.
December 26, 2008 10:29 PM
 

bewild79 said:

Thanks weatherfreak01,
yea I am under it..I am in platte...we moved so my radio was misplaced by the hubby  lol
becky
December 26, 2008 10:30 PM
 

KCNorth said:

pvt_murphy my bad.  Here in Olathe, we have marshmallow clouds blowin' up.  Now rain.steady.  Cloud deck is lowering quickly.
December 26, 2008 10:32 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Let's see, we've got a flash flood watch, tornado watch, short term forcast, and Hazardous weather outlook. CRAZY!!!!
December 26, 2008 10:33 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

JUST HAD A HEAVY THUNDERSTORM DECENT WIND GUSTS, BURSTS OF HEAVY RAIN WITH PRETTY IMPRESSIVE LIGHTNING :)   Question is this a REALLY early season severe threat... or a REALLY late one? this is just absolutely nuts, I knew something was off when there was no "chill" at all in the air this evening, purely a spring feel.
December 26, 2008 10:33 PM
 

chellianne said:

Here's the discussion on the tornado watch:

DISCUSSION...ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP IN
  SHORT BANDS FROM ERN KS INTO WRN MO.  THIS CONVECTION IS LIKELY
  ROOTED JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE AND ALONG THE W EDGE OF THE RICHEST
  LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE...BUT THE THREAT FOR SURFACE-BASED STORMS WILL
  INCREASE AS DESTABILIZATION AND ASCENT CONTINUE OVERNIGHT WITH THE
  APPROACH OF A DEEP MID LEVEL TROUGH FROM CO/NM.  VERTICAL SHEAR IS
  FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS WITH THE INITIAL PRE-FRONTAL
  CONVECTION...AND THESE STORMS WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A COUPLE
  OF TORNADOES AND DAMAGING WINDS...AS WELL AS ISOLATED LARGE HAIL.
  ADDITIONAL STORMS WILL LIKELY FORM LATER TONIGHT AND FARTHER TO THE
  W IN KS ALONG A COLD FRONT...AND EVOLVE INTO A LINE WITH EMBEDDED
  BOW/SUPERCELL STRUCTURES.
December 26, 2008 10:33 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

No problem Becky. I'm so paranoid I have a weather radio always on, a scanner in the night stand door and I get weather text messages sent to my phone through two different places. I worry that I will be in the movies or somewhere and a warning will be issued and I won't know, thus the text messages. It also does not hurt that with two teenage girls, we have signed up for a plan that gives us unlimited text messages from anyone. Boy has that saved us a fortune!!
December 26, 2008 10:35 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Statements from the NWS above and what Gary says "Not expecting any crazy weather - 1% chance of tornados" is what confuses people. I'm going with Gary as his average on accuracy is much better.
December 26, 2008 10:37 PM
 

Darkwolfe said:

A tornado watch in December, just a few days after a snowstorm.  The Midwest is really living up to it's reputation for changeable weather this month!!

farmgirl- If a tornado was to spawn tonight, I'd be real surprised by anything larger than an EF1.  Go easy on yourself.  An EF1 won't do much more than pull some shingles and break a few branches.  I suppose it might toss a small shed if it caught the wind just right.  You'll be fine tonight.
December 26, 2008 10:37 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Well, based on what you posted chellianne, I guess no sleep for me tonight. geesh!
December 26, 2008 10:38 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

i just meant that the storms were forming rapidly(popping up).  leavenworth seems to be a little far west/north for the action at the moment lvsnow.  

i am located at fort leavenworth kcnorth.

i would never say never, but this doesnt scream severe weather to me.  i dont even think hail is much of a threat.  high winds would seem to be the greatest threat, and that likely will be isolated at best.  certainly keep wx radio's on, but i wouldnt displace the family to the basement at this juncture.  even if there was a tornado- this is EF0-1 at best kinda stuff(in my opinion).  which even if it went right over your house would likely break a large branch off a tree, displace some shingles and break a window and thats it.  just my thoughts!

December 26, 2008 10:41 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

Thanks Matt P. it just seemed like this is a "Twilight Zone" night!  Speaking of "Twilight Zone" there is also a rock' song that would be fitting for tonight!
December 26, 2008 10:43 PM
 

Darkwolfe said:

 Nick Rau said:
Thanks Matt P. it just seemed like this is a "Twilight Zone" night!  Speaking of "Twilight Zone" there is also a rock' song that would be fitting for tonight!
---------------------
Dernit Nick, now I've got that goofy song stuck in my head.

Short burst of rain here in Mission at the office. Caught one of my coworkers outside. He came back in looking rather soaked.
December 26, 2008 10:49 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

what is more interesting to me is whats forming along the coldfront in central ks...if it gets its act together there could be a bow structure, although it will likely veer south of most of the metro, considering the cold front is already nearing falls city NE, which usually means us NWerners are only 2-3 hours from frontal passage.  not much time for a lot to happen up here.  the other thing that is more interesting is all the post-frontal precip in SW KS.  there is a lot of moisture to be had for this storm, if it can really wind up...then there could be a surprise or two in store for someone residing in the plains/MW over the next 12-15 hours.
December 26, 2008 10:49 PM
 

chieffan07 said:

Thanks Matt P. but if I'm going by the Chief's season, I would expect a long and awful night. lol.

But seriously, I hope there is nothing severe, I get freaked out since I need some advanced warning to get to shelter. But judging by some of the comments on this blog, some don't think there will be severe weather tonight.

Thanks
December 26, 2008 10:53 PM
 

chellianne said:

I'm fogged in overnight in Ames, IA, and the cable just went out in our motel room! I can't watch Gary and now I can't even watch the Weather Channel. I'm worried about our kitties in Kansas City.

Farmgirl, if Gary says no crazy weather tonight, then I'll take his word over the NWS anytime. Maybe now I can get some sleep in this stupid motel room!
December 26, 2008 10:54 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

well it looks like we have our first severe tstorm warning, for areas around the north side of chillicothe.  winds of 60mph possible.  
December 26, 2008 10:56 PM
 

Nick Rau said:

Yes that cold front is late for an appointment I think.
Sorry Darkwolfe:)
December 26, 2008 10:56 PM
 

chieffan07 said:

Pvt_murphy, where are you located? Just wondering since you said "us NWerners are only 2-3 hours from teh rontal passage".

Thanks
December 26, 2008 10:56 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Just an FYI.. I just figured out that on NBC's weather page you can click on the severe weather tab below the interactive map and you then have lots of different buttons you can click to see watches, warnings, changes for tornados, hail, thunderstorms, etc.
December 26, 2008 10:56 PM
 

Jenn6428 said:

This is crazy to have a tornado watch in December. I remember about maybe 5 or 6 years ago we had a severe thunderstorm watch with some actual storms in December.
December 26, 2008 11:00 PM
 

farmgirl said:

I wish KSHB would do streaming live weather when severe weather occurs. That would help when the cable/satelite or power goes out.

And as far as a F0 tornado. Been there done that in 2006. Damage to the farm was huge - over 20K+ in costs. Then the straight line last June= More damage+Costs. Most bloggers on here know this saga story. :)

I just retreat to the basement because my home has large west and south windows. Not very safe in high wind situations not to mention the noise with heavy rain/hail hitting the glass. Gonna try and sell this place in the spring and get a small, normal ranch house.
December 26, 2008 11:01 PM
 

Poloweather said:

We've got some pretty good wind and rain here -- started suddenly and heavy although we heard the thunder for awhile.  Seems to be less rain now, but what's coming down is kind of horizontal :)  What an interesting weather week.
December 26, 2008 11:01 PM
 

shogoc said:

About 15 minutes ago had a quick rain shower here in NW Olathe.  Hearing some thunder outside.  
December 26, 2008 11:03 PM
 

DaveC said:

My beagle Linus won't settle down tonight either
December 26, 2008 11:04 PM
 

mstauss said:

The lightning seems to be slowing down quite a bit from earlier.  I'm down to picking up around 9 strokes a minute from the 58 an hour or so ago.  Ignore the spikes in the graph, I've yet to figure out what causes those.  http://www.houseofstauss.com/weather/lightning.php

Dew point is almost up to 60, plenty of juice to keep the storms going.  Still no rain in Trimble, MO but it looks some is heading this way.  http://www.houseofstauss.com/weather/severestormradar.php

Does anyone know the record dew point temp for December for this area?  It has to be hard to hit a 60 degree dew point around here this time of the year.
December 26, 2008 11:06 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

chieffan07, i am located at fort leavenworth, which is about 75 miles away from falls city(as the crow flies).  with a general motion of 25-30mph to the south east that would put the front near me in about 3 hours-slightly less...and closer to two hours for atchison, which would likely be the northwestern extent of our viewing area.  this front seems to be moving with a purpose, so lets see if it continues...

now granted lees summit for example is a good 60+ miles from my location, so by the time it reaches me, it would still take a good 2-2.5 hours for it to reach the more heavily populated part of the metro.
December 26, 2008 11:07 PM
 

davidmcg said:

So Gary says bring the car in.  At least he didn't say put your bicycle helmet on.  They should cancel a good portion of the watch box soon I think.
December 26, 2008 11:09 PM
 

farmgirl said:

I can't get the KSHB Map Controls to zoom out a bit. And the refresh is very slow. Anybody having issues with the interactive map?
December 26, 2008 11:13 PM
 

pvt_murphy said:

i understand farmgirl, i wasnt trying to minimalize your damage...i remember your trials.  however, when that bow echo came through earlier this year, it had winds of EF1 tornado strength...for several minutes! close to 10-15 minutes around the liberty area.  that makes a huge difference in comparison to an actual tornado of that magnitude which would likely be of a bouncy nature with a narrow swath and would likely last 30 seconds or so.  the amount of energy is different.  

i feel your pain though as i grew up in florida and have experienced so many wind storms that i can actually guess wind gusts pretty accurately with just sight and sound.  that bow we had this spring was equivalent to a strong tropical storm at its peak intensity.  impressive!  
December 26, 2008 11:15 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

The puppys are sitting staring at the front door because they can see flashes and hear some rumbles of thunder. It is amusing.
December 26, 2008 11:15 PM
 

farmgirl said:

Wind has picked up again in La Cygne.
December 26, 2008 11:17 PM
 

mstauss said:

That cold front means business.  61 in Manhattan, KS 34 in Concordia, KS.  27 degree difference in around 60 miles.
December 26, 2008 11:17 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

Yea, I figured out the hard way that we have already had some rain. I went outside in my socks to look at the lightning. My socks got soaked only a foot from the front door. The rain must have been wind driven because the front door is under a 3-4 foot overhang that goes across the front of the house.
December 26, 2008 11:22 PM
 

Dwxtracker said:

New blog
December 26, 2008 11:26 PM
 

emcat said:

Farmgirl, don't give up. I know it doesn't seem like the angels have been smiling upon you, but this is this season of HOPE!!! Miracles come in small unknown ways. There is a bigger purpose and I am confident you will be given great blessings!  
December 26, 2008 11:27 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

So do you guys think we will have watches and warning going on and off all night. I'm SE of the metro between Lee's Summit and Blue Springs.
December 26, 2008 11:28 PM
 

juba said:

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
  TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 955
  NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
  955 PM CST FRI DEC 26 2008
 
  THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
  TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF
 
         EAST CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS
         WESTERN MISSOURI
 
  EFFECTIVE THIS FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY MORNING FROM 955 PM
  UNTIL 500 AM CST.
 
  TORNADOES...HAIL TO 1 INCH IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS
  TO 70 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.
 
  THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 75 STATUTE
  MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 65 MILES NORTHEAST OF KANSAS
  CITY MISSOURI TO 60 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CHANUTE KANSAS.  FOR A
  COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE
  UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU5).
 
  REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
  TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
  AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
  THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
  AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.
 
  DISCUSSION...ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP IN
  SHORT BANDS FROM ERN KS INTO WRN MO.  THIS CONVECTION IS LIKELY
  ROOTED JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE AND ALONG THE W EDGE OF THE RICHEST
  LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE...BUT THE THREAT FOR SURFACE-BASED STORMS WILL
  INCREASE AS DESTABILIZATION AND ASCENT CONTINUE OVERNIGHT WITH THE
  APPROACH OF A DEEP MID LEVEL TROUGH FROM CO/NM.  VERTICAL SHEAR IS
  FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS WITH THE INITIAL PRE-FRONTAL
  CONVECTION...AND THESE STORMS WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A COUPLE
  OF TORNADOES AND DAMAGING WINDS...AS WELL AS ISOLATED LARGE HAIL.
  ADDITIONAL STORMS WILL LIKELY FORM LATER TONIGHT AND FARTHER TO THE
  W IN KS ALONG A COLD FRONT...AND EVOLVE INTO A LINE WITH EMBEDDED
  BOW/SUPERCELL STRUCTURES.
 
  AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL
  SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 1 INCH. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND
  GUSTS TO 60 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 450.
  MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 23045.
 
 
  ...THOMPSON
December 26, 2008 11:41 PM
 

juba said:

You can tell there will be rain, is is an oppersessive, heavy silence outside, the calm before the storm.
December 26, 2008 11:43 PM
 

juba said:

You can tell there will be rain, is is an oppersessive, heavy silence outside, the calm before the storm.
December 26, 2008 11:43 PM
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