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Morning Gary, are you and the puppies happy with the snow?  Today is a good day, its Friday and while I don't really like snow, I kinda want to see it today.  Heck, I am in a mood for a blizzard for some reason.  Looking at the radar, did you think that the band would be this large?  I can't remember the graphic you used last night but in my mind I didn't think it would be this big.  My wife said that on air last night you were saying it would be an area 90 miles across.  If so you weren't very far off.  Just to the west of here in McLouth its snowing a bit heavier.  Well waiting for the warm up I am.  Have a great weekend.  Spotter classes start in 2 weeks.  Ahhh, a busy man you will soon be.  Better rest up for those all night telecasts for the spring storms.

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It seems big because we are in it, but the graphic I showed was to indicate that it was concentrating on our viewing area and only our viewing area. 

Gary

Yey! Heavy snow is falling!

So was she right.  Did it show or did you say 90 miles?  Looks like on radar the stuff that is actually hitting the ground is growing and intensifying.  Better now and get it over with rather than an hour from now.  But rush hour is already underway.  All good for those of us who have no place to be this morning.  Gary, enjoy the white stuff before it melts today.

enough to cover the ground here in st jo this morning,been snowing since about 5:00. temp at +plus 5. good dog walking. lots of layers!

I am suppose to leave for Manhattan around 9am what is the chance of this snow event being over?

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It should be over in Manhattan by 9 AM with it ending from northwest to southeast by noon in most areas.

Gary

Tageis check KANROAD before you go.  Highways out here are fine between Lawrence and Manhattan.

http://511.ksdot.org/KanRoadPublic_VE/Default.aspx

.75" of snow so far! If everybody put up the Christmas stuff i'd be like a movie!

A movie?  You ought to see the christmas tree farm just to the north of us.  Nice looking!

What are the 5 driest January's on record for KCI?  Gotta be ear that list for 2009.  I emailed Jeremy in Topeka with the same question.  And where is Bill in Lawrence?

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We will do some research, but it is snowing and it is only January 16th.  We should have another couple of days with measurable precipitation between now and February.

Gary

Gary,

I am presently at 10 degrees here in south OP. A moderate band of snow moved through and it is now a steady light snow here. Just enough snow to make things messy. I can see the back edge of the snow on the Topeka radar.

Bob

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Bob,

Yes, I can see the back edge too, but just enjoy this small snow event while it is here.  We made an accurate prediction on this storm beginning yesterday morning at 5 AM.  We went for 1/2 inch to 1 inch then and then stuck to it and it is happening, concentrating on the south side.

Gary

Thank you David!  I don't think it will be bad after about 8 - because it looks like it will be out of Manhattan and kdot is saying patchy snow pack.  Trust me I am looking at that plus the radar - it's a trip that I can postpone but I don't want to!

Gary,

Here's in tongue in cheek comment for the day:  Darn it, why do you have to be so accurate?

I have to drive from Independence to Overland Park in just a few minutes.  Yes, I'll take my time, I know it's going to be slick, and yes, I'm grateful you gave that information last night.  Again, most accurately.

But still....heavy sigh...I'm glad you snow lovers are getting a chance to enjoy the white stuff.  That's the nicest thing I can think of to say this morning.

:-)

Has anyone been driving along 50 Hwy from Warrensburg into Lee's Summit/Blue Springs area?  Are the roads very slick (for a "no wheel" drive truck)?

The snow falling in Mission right now is little flakes but it is snowing at a good clip. The cardinals in the trees look very picturesque against the white snow.

Oh my goodness, please stop touting how you nailed everything!  This was NOT even in your forecast until yesterday.  You began predicting it just when all the other outlets began predicting it.  
Please, the information I gather from this site is outstanding and the passion energizing, but the childish denegrating of other forecasts and touting of yours is beneath you.

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Actually that isn't true!  We were the first ones yesterday morning.  And, we were consistent all the way through.  It was not an easy forecast, and we are not saying anything about any other forecast.  When you make a forecast and don't have to change it and then it happens, it is worth talking about.  I could leave it out of the blog, and I am sorry that I touched a nerve.  Remember, if it wouldn't have snowed this morning as expected, then there would have been a lot of questions wanting me to explain how we got it wrong. So, please understand.  I am not really boasting, just laying out what happened.

Gary

 

wow country what is with you?   ************* I responded. Jeremy

Thank you!

its just jealousy bewild or maybe country is just a snow hater, but country definately seems to have woken up on the wrong side of the bed today. Keep up the good work Gary and the team, you guys most definately predicted this small storm accurately

Phillip ****************** Phillip, I'm surprised that on the NWS site for today as of 8:20 a.m. they only have a 40% chance of snow and don't mention any accumulation. I clicked near KCI. So there is just one example of a forecast difference that still exists this morning. Jeremy

I want people to know I just got out and it is very slick out there - be careful.  I think I am going to have to postpone driving to Manhattan this morning!

It sure does look pretty out there.  I chickened out and didnt drive to work today.  I love to be able to enjoy this while sitting in my WARM house, drinking a cup of coffee...all covered up....aahhh
becky

G-Man: One full inch on the ground at Falcon Ridge in Lenexa. Radar looks like more to come, too!

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Yes, the bulls-eye will be near you or just east and southeast of your location.  1 to 2 inches will be the final total in a few spots.

Gary

I loved getting out of bed this am to see snow falling. I have enough to cover hard surfaces but not a full cover on the ground yet. It is very pretty....this will get me by for a bit. Great job you all on the accuracy of this little event. I think everyone looks for alittle validation in life.....especially when you have a job in which you are so highly criticized when it does not turn out as predicted. I would hate to see how this blog would be lighting up if this little event had not happened. Have a great day and goog job.
Monica
Pleasanton

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Monica,

Thank you!  Exactly.  I can't make everyone happy.

Gary

In the country of the blind, a one eye'd man is king.

Gary,

I've heard several people at work this morning saying, 'where did this come from', I've been telling them you were the only in town saying this yesterday, way before anyone else even put it in their forecast!!! As always...you guys are way ahead of anyone else!!!

Jeff  

All I can say is, it's about time!!  I have been so bored with the weather lately.  This little burst of snow is so exciting!!  I can't wait for the active part of the cycle.  

KUDOS to GARY and the KSHB weather team!!!  I happened to be on another station last night ONLY because I was watching coverage of the plane crash and caught their forecast.  It was emphasized on this other station that this would be a NON event with NO MORE than a dusting.  I already knew Gary's forecast from the blog, but flipped to watch KSHB weather since it comes on later than the other stations.  Gary stuck to his guns on the forecast and the graphic last night NAILED this storm!!!

Just another example of why we should look only to other forecasts for entertainment, but for science and accuracy, this is the best site in the country.

Your boredom with the weather means good traveling conditions - you see a little snow can cause a mess and change in people's plans!

supercell,
you are correct....it is entertainment to see what the others say.  I am always laughing when they are SO far off.  It makes me want to send them an email and tell them that they could learn a thing or two from Gary and the team.  But then I think about it and realize I wouldnt have my entertainment  if I did that LOL
becky

I told everyone at work, look Gary says snow tomorrow morning.  We checked all the "other" people and NO ONE was stating the Snow word.  Keep up the good work Gary and the weather team, WE at home and WE at work appreciate you and your accuracy....I am so happy to have a break in the boring weather with a little excitement........Have a good weekend.

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Thank you so much!  Have a great weekend.

Gary

Only station in town that predicted accumlation. This is why your NUMBER 1!
Now let's get into that stormy pattern and see what becomes of it.

It's a BEAUTIFUL snow but it's still TOO COLD for my liking!!  Bring on Spring!!

Great forecasting Gary -- You are ALWAYS right!!

Gary,

You do a good job, your passion makes weather fun and I enjoy this website.  That all being said, at 5pm you were going with a 50% of snow and then IF it does happen, a dusting to 1".  This event was not forecasted that well by you (as you had to wait to actually see snow falling on the surface map upstream before you really bought into it), saying it would happen as snow is falling in central Nebraska last evening is way too easy.  

The reality of the event was that the GFS has been showing it for 36-48 hours.  The model picked up on the snow bands across western and south central Kansas over the past few days, so it was the model of choice for the current setup (cold air in place at surface with strong northwesterly flow aloft). The NAM was and still is basically lost.  The GFS has also been consistent in predicting 0.05-0.09 hundredths of and inch of liquid equivelent precipitation for the current event, and it also had the timing nailed all along.  At a 25-30 to 1 snow ratio that comes out to 1-2" of snow.  

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Jay,

Yes and no!  We did have the 50% chance in there and I hedged my bets, but still said around an inch may fall.  So, I leaned heavily in the right direction.  This was such a small little thing when you look at the big picture.

Gary

I'm not enjoying it. I think I need to move to South America or something.

The NWS said "snow likely" and gave a 60% chance of snow yesterday evening, with accumulations up to an inch...bascially the same forecast as Gary...so there were other forecasters in KC predicting this.

That said, I'm a little surprised we got this much snow. It piled up a little more than I expected but is still only about 1 - 1.5 inches. Ironically, with the fluffy snow, the side streets were easier to drive on this morning than the bigger roads.

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RDub,

I am glad the NWS got the forecast pretty much right.  I just was laying out the timeline of when this started and how this storm produced about as much as it could  have produced in the band I predicted last night. That was my only intention.  Anyway, it was a nice little snow that produced 2 inches in a couple of spots.

Gary

It's still coming down pretty steadily south of Harrisonville.  My fiance did not believe me last night that it was going to snow.  He apparently didn't watch NBC news like I did ;)

You nailed it again Gary and team!  Great job!

**QUESTION - on the TODAY show Al Roker keeps saying that the Pacific Northwest is in a "Stagnant Air Warning".  What on earth is that?  How can there be stagnant air over an entire region???????

G-Man: It's all over but the shoutin...and sledding...at Falcon Ridge in Lenexa.

1.75" is our final total

Tinkermom, it's very easy to have stangant air over a whole region. You just need a good high pressure system to sit in one place. It usually helps to have some topography to help trap the air...and the Pacific Northwest has plenty of that.

gary: 10:00 @ 119th & state line ...

letting up some.. bigger flakes though.

2 1/4" up to now.

good pic of the dogs!

jeff

I have 1" in Blue Springs, 8" for the season now

Just over 2 inches here in S. OP....still a few bigger snowflakes coming down.

The snow fall has ended. Drum roll please........ .75 inches. Better than nothing...I will take it. My total snow for the season is 1.50 inches. Have a great day and stay safe.
Monica
Pleasanton, KS

Average of 1.75-2" at JCCC...Measured in three different spots in wind-sheltered area near our dept.'s dock. I wanted to stay outside!!!

Well we got a "heavy" dusting here in St. Joe, was nice to see the snow coming down so we did not completely waste this arctic surge nice job on forecasting this thing to!
now it is cloudy(maybe a flurry) with a still frigid SOUTH wind!

Nailed this forecast Gary!

A dusting here in Marceline, MO with light snow falling

Alex

"****************** Phillip, I'm surprised that on the NWS site for today as of 8:20 a.m. they only have a 40% chance of snow and don't mention any accumulation. I clicked near KCI. So there is just one example of a forecast difference that still exists this morning. Jeremy"

---I think you must have done something wrong Jeremy, as I can pull up their forecast from 3PM, 10PM, and 4AM for the KCI area and they had 70-80% chance of snow with accumulations up to an inch. Looks like both sources were right on! ***************** Sorry Billy. When I clicked on the map on the main NWS page it said 40% chance of snow this morning. I should have done a screen grab of the page. I can't make this stuff up. If the NWS wants to avoid confusion they should make the grids match the zone forecast. Our forecast was still the best and I won't back done from this fact. Jeremy

The station I listned to yesterday morning mentioned nothing of snow today and when I left work late yesterday afternoon...the NWS had  only a 40% of snow and no accumlation on their website.

That being said...I'm ready for spring!!!! If we all could stay in our homes and just look outside...then this stuff would be ok...but few of us, have that luxury.  

Seems like a lot of you are being a little harsh... it was a small storm and Gary and the rest of the crew did get it right. I dont know why a couple of you guys are trying to prove them wrong or say you only said it was going to snow after snow started developing in Nebraska... They are the best and we ALL know it whether you want to or not, 6 years in a row so please stop trying to say they didnt call for this snow because it is really annoying to read. Thanks

"I'm surprised that on the NWS site for today as of 8:20 a.m. they only have a 40% chance of snow and don't mention any accumulation.I clicked near KCI"

Was there any accumulation near KCI after 8:20? I think this updated forecast was meant to reflect the fact that the event was starting to wind down at the time. ***************** RDub, This was on the site before 8:20, and for central and southern parts of the metro too. I'd rather not debate anymore who got it right and who didn't. Time to focus on what's ahead and not what is done. If everyone could send in snow totals I will post them on the newscasts this evening. Stay safe outside, the roads are still very slippery in places! Jeremy

exactly 2" on my deck!

It took almost exactly an hour this morning to make the 15-20 minute run gettings the kids to school - one to jr high and one to high school. yuk!!!!!

Don't read it then.  I was stating facts whether you like them or not.  I was showing way I feel this event and snow amounts were a little more predictable then what was showing on TV on the 5 and 6pm newscasts. **************** Maybe tonight at 5 & 6 I'll show a clip of what Gary said last night for those same shows. If people watched Gary yesterday this would not have been a surprise. Your comments are always welcome. Jeremy

wow!!! Woke up this morning to 2 1/2 inches of snow here in drexel!!!! Thats is our biggest snow of the year!!!! ************** That is awesome! Enjoy...it might be melting away on Saturday. Jeremy

Exactly 2" in Grandview westside near 150 highway.

Matt

No one's trying to prove these guys missed anything.  It's the bragging of "we nailed it" or "we had the best forecast" that comes across as incredibly childish. This has become a contiual theme on this site lately.  And heaven forbid you make a comment stating such.
This site is so helpful in helping me understand some of the intricacies of weather.  I wish it would stick to education rather than a forum to tout the forecasts as "the best".   Buisness is buisness, I guess.   ******************** It is okay to be proud of a forecast from time to time. Success in any line of work is what everyone strives to achieve. We felt our forecast worked out quite well. Jeremy

Wow what a slick drive.  Had to go from 135th and state line to Olathe courthouse on santa fe on the west part of town.  The whole way was slick.  It seems the road crews were caught off guard..no sand on the roads and people were sliding all over.

Saw lots of bad drivers tailgating, and people should not drive if they really dont have to in this.

I believe that Gary hinted on the Wed. weathercasts at a chance of snow this morning.  I listen to my weather radio at night.  NWS never made the jump to 70% until this morning.  It was still a 60% chance when I fell asleep.  Both Gary and NWS said that the snow would be out of here by 9 AM last night.  NWS' forecast changed to by noon.  I don't know if Gary had changed his timeline or not.  I do not watch or listen to other sources besides Gary and NWS so I really don't care how accurate or inaccurate their forecasts are.  

Kristi

Snow total near 128th & MurLen, Olathe,Ks =1.75"

Ok, let's look ahead: where's our warmup? It's still in the teens! Come on warm air to our west, go ahead and move on in.... **************** 44 in Valentine. Here it comes:) Probably rising temps tonight and a morning high on Saturday. Jeremy

KansasPatriot says :
Saw lots of bad drivers tailgating, and people should not drive if they really dont have to in this.



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I'll let my boss know... :)

Hello, everyone, am happy to report that the sun is out in Leavenworth!  Just a reminder.  When you provide weather info for your area, please give your city or area.  
Thanks.  Happy Weekend and safe driving.
Edna

country,

As much as I understand where you are coming from.  I hate hearing about late breaking news seen only on our channel........but I am going to have to go with GL and his team on this one.  They don't brag often, but its okay if they do so out here......How many times do they get yelled at and mocked at when people feel they missed a forecast?  Its okay to say they were right.  

It's in the 50s in western KS....come on warm downsloping winds where are you???

On the plus side, the sun has come out now...

Hi everyone.  some of you are HARSH. It is difficult to forcast the weather (I come from a family of broadcasters) and these guys (in my opinion) do a better job than any other station and I enjoy their enthusiasm.  I understand the "stop boasting" comments, I feel like that too somethimes as they come in just under the wire and and then say "See, told ya, or " yep, we nailed it".  Let's just enjoy the weather today since we don't get snow that often and thank these guys for their efforts.  I mean, they set this blog up for us, they interact alot with us, they educate us, so what if the wanna pat themselves on the back.  Sometimes they deserve it!  keep up the great work guys.  Oh, and it seems you guys work with my sister, Shellie Nelson...tell her her little sis TS says HI!

wow wow wow, this is one of Harrisonville's biggest snowstorms of the winter! almost 2 inches fell here!

its always the little ones that catch us by surprise huh?
I only watched two stations regarding this snow and one, (I'm sure you can guess who) , said that he thought the powercast was way overdone. (he always says that)

and then Gary said an inch...so he was definitely much closer, great job Gary!

now wheres that link to the ratings of the stations?

Brent
******************* Brent that is almost your biggest snow in 2 years! Enjoy! Jeremy

Hi! My family and I have just moved back to Lansing for good this summer (we LOVE Kansas!!!!). I am a stay at home mom and am in charge of everybody's everthing in our house!! I just would like to say that I faithfully watch this weather team's forecasts each evening, as well as check them on line before bed, and I have always been able to be very prepared with the correct weather for how my kids need to dress for school and if I need to drive them, and which coat to advise my hubby to wear! I enjoy their forecasts because they seem to want to educate the viewer, not just throw information out at them. I think Gary and his team do a great job, and I cannot see any harm at all in pointing out a job well done with something as fickle as weather forcasting. That's all. Oh, and I love that he loves his dogs so much!!:)

Accuracy is in the eyes of the beholder.  Regardless of how tough the job is, it's the consumers who determine what is accurate.  For me, it's 48 hours out.  If it isn't explicit 48 hours out, then it wasn't an accurate forcast.  Take a stand.  20% chance of snow isn't enough.  Will it snow?  Yes or No.  If yes, then how much.  Saying 20% is like saying "It may or may not be cloudy, it may or may not be windy".

Now I wasn't watching Wednesday morning at 6, so I can't speak to this event, but I understand where the frustration comes from.

Its not bragging if you are right.  Where is everyone where the team admits they were wrong?  And, yes..they do when it happens.

In reading the entry, I don't see any chest thumping, rather a recap of how things were communicated.

jreeder - I enjoy your entries.  I wish you would post more often, as often your thoughts are very clear and generally correct.  That said, if the GFS nailed this as far ahead as you state, I am dumbfounded as to why not anyone really went with it.

I would venture to guess that while the GFS may have had it, it was such a small feature, that likely based on experience with the GFS, it would need to be more of a wait and see.  In addtion, without model concensus [ aka NAM? [why do people use the NAM again?  LOL]], and being a small feature, it was probably more prudent to wait and see before jumping on such a small future and communicating it to thousands of people.

In looking the the larger view, certainly the dry air vs. moisture had to be a consideration.  Sure, the dry air can saturate very quickly, but would there be enough to saturate the entire column?  I think waiting until much closer to the event was a better bet.  Had this been a larger scale storm, surely it would have been jumped on quicker.

I think it is possible to be quicker with forecasts based on model analysis..but speaking from experience, people tend to forget the storms you nail with longer leads vs. the events you miss because of haste.

Rdub - help me with something..as I continue to be puzzled.  While I know you don't have an answer, I would like your opinion.  In the statement above regarding the NWS comment - "The NWS said "snow likely" and gave a 60% chance of snow yesterday evening" --- If snow is likely, why leave a 40% chance that it won't?

Being just 10% over a coin flip, that doesn't sound likely to me.  If likely, I would expect 80-90%?

I am beginning to dread percentage forecasts.  It is the standard, but is so open to interpretation that it becomes horrible to validate.  Everyone does it, but it kills me.  It would be more useful to everyone with something like...

"No chance in Hades"
"It could, but need more time to see"
"We have no idea..it could go either way - coinflip"
"It probably will, but not for everyone and not too long"
"Yes, everyone will see it happen and it is going to do it over a large area"
"Hold on, its armegeddon!"

Dunno, I think if a forecast is going to be subjective, take all objective looking jargon out of it..it causes confusion...LOL

Jeeez snow seems to make some unhappy people haha, anyways lets all just get along :) they do a great job and we all know it let them pat themselves on the back every now and then. Lets look ahead to the brief warm up then hopefully the more stormier part of winter will come back :D

Phillip

You guys were right on target and I loved the snow in Lawrence, even if we only got about an inch.  I have a note that says the active part of the cycle begins around Jan. 20.  Looks like we are heading for the 60s on the 21st?  Gotta love roller coasters this winter.

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If memory serves me right the middle to end of next week should have a storm...that would be the one around November 30ish.  Then early December was quiet for 5-7 days before the real excitement kicked in for about 3 weeks.

Jeremy

I recently moved from Tampa, and I think the weather guys there had it pretty EASY. Honestly, it was the SAME forecast EVERYDAY (minus the occasional hurricane): Hot, humid, mix of sun and clouds with a chance of afternoon or evening rain. It was like groundhog day. BOOOORRRRING.

"Rdub - help me with something..as I continue to be puzzled.  While I know you don't have an answer, I would like your opinion.  In the statement above regarding the NWS comment - "The NWS said "snow likely" and gave a 60% chance of snow yesterday evening" --- If snow is likely, why leave a 40% chance that it won't?"

Scott, I do have an answer, sort of. That is the official NWS language. If the chance is 80%+ it is "categorical" and the forecast says "Snow" or "Rain". If the chance is 60% or 70% it is "likely" and the forecast says "Snow likely" or "Rain likely". If the chance is less, than the language is "Chance of snow" or "Chance of rain".

Now, one could have a semantic discussion about whether 60% is really "likely" or not, but that is the official definition (see www.weather.gov/glossary). Also, I often wonder how exact those percentages are. It seems like a 60% chance of precip ends up with precip falling more than 3 times out of 5.

For me I'd say accuracy is more important in the 24 hour timeframe.  Lots of things can change 48 hours before a predicted event, and less than 12 hours kind of comes down to "now casting" in my book.

I'm ok with using percentages but I think the biggest problem is that people don't understand them, as demonstrated in an entry above.  A 20% chance of snow to me means it might snow but there's an 80% chance it won't, which leads me to believe that if it does snow it will be light and inconsequential.  A 50% chance of snow means there is equal probabililty of either outcome, although I've found, by watching weather forecasts over the years, that a 50% chance of something means it generally happens.

My interpretation of breakdowns is as follows:

0% - It won't snow/rain.
10% - 20% - It likely won't snow/rain
30% - 40% - It will likely snow/rain somewhere in the viewing area but it probably won't amount to much.
50% - 70% - It will snow/rain over most of the area.
80% - 100% - It's nearly assured it will snow/rain.

These are just my observations, and aren't what percentages mean.  It seems to me I remember reading something about percentages, in weather forecasting, refer to the chance of it doing whatever within X miles of a given point.

  andrewsmith : alot can change in 48 hours.  

How about this for a Kansas City forecast...

Today:
Chance of cloudy or sunshine,
unseasonably hot or freezing;
chance of rain and wind....
snow possible, or hail ...
or stuff from the sky for which
there isn't even a name yet !

Would that please the ones who are so critical of this team?

Give 'em a break !

It was so great here in west Olathe, got about 2".  Was glad to be in the "heavier snow bands"!
I have read all the comments here about accuracy and I know how incredibly hard it is to be accurate all the time, but SERIOUS kudos to you guys for doing so well--I personally brag on you guys all the time.    I did do a silly little bit of research here just to kind of show how different the forcasts can be and why I always just use your forcasts.  Looking at NBC and then 4 others---For Saturday, according to NBC the temp is to be about 50. The others say either 39, 41, 42 or 43. Looking further out to Wednesday --- NBC says 65. The others say 46, 51, 53 and 59.  If you ask me, that is a quite a bit of difference.  As another blogger said, looking at the others is good entertainment. Gary and the team are usually so "spot on" that I just really don't need to look anywhere else.

I measured here in harrisonville and it looks like right on 2 inches.

Thank you for your comments.  I'll try and get on a little more often.  I have forcasted for a living 11 years here in KC.

And as far as the GFS went for this storm, when I jumped on yesterday I looked back at the previous 4 runs and saw good consistancy.  The NAM on the other hand had very poor consistancy.  The disturbances in the NW flow that have been tracking west of KC over the past couple of days were handled well by the GFS and really had no issue with saturation producing light bands of snow to our south and west.  I had every reason to believe this would continue, especially since the GFS (for at least 4 runs) showed a stronger disturbance that would bullseye KC with 0.05-0.09 inches of liquid precipitation.  

Have a good evening

KCwxguy,
Thank you for your comments.  I'll try and get on a little more often.  I have forcasted for a living 11 years here in KC.

And as far as the GFS went for this storm, when I jumped on yesterday I looked back at the previous 4 runs and saw good consistancy.  The NAM on the other hand had very poor consistancy.  The disturbances in the NW flow that have been tracking west of KC over the past couple of days were handled well by the GFS and really had no issue with saturation producing light bands of snow to our south and west.  I had every reason to believe this would continue, especially since the GFS (for at least 4 runs) showed a stronger disturbance that would bullseye KC with 0.05-0.09 inches of liquid precipitation.  

Have a good evening

Well today I got to tour Whiteman's Air Force Base, to get an idea of the campuss, and I got to fly in the B-2 bomber flight simulater. It was pretty awesome! I could tell the computer operater to add terbulence, thunderstorms, rain, snow, wind....etc

And about your guys forecast...well it was dead on, and I give the weather team props for accurately forecasting such a miniscule event.

There are some people thrashing on Gary about boasting his great forecast. Well put yourself in Gary, Jeremy, Brett, or Jeff's shoes. When you nail a forecast like this, wouldnt you want to tell people about it and show you indeed are the most accurate out there.

As Gary said, he was the first to predict accumulating snow, but I am just going by his comment here as I did not look at any other forecasts yesterday.

All I have to say is a little bit of critisism makes this blog much more interesting, but I think people should critisize more on bigger things.

Keep up the good work team!

Alex

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Alex,

That sounds like an awesome experience!  Any pictures?

Jeremy