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Well what do we expect? we live in KC worst city lol bad baseball and football team and horrible weather here

Thanks for the update.

Gary, do you think the south KC area will get less than the north area?  Or is it really just going to be hit and miss for the entire area?

And when are you expecting the snow to start here?  Just hoping the evening rush is problem free!!

My precip event went from a drizzle to a mist, :( No flakes yet.
Monica
Pleasanton, KS

Bah Hum Bug....... I want at least a FOOT of snow!!!!!

god im completely going to give up on winter. it has just sucked seriously i think there is some kind of snow stopped that has been set up around the metro that wont allow us to receive more than 2 inches... this just sucks. bring on summer and 100s for highs in the afternoon

Was it 2005 or 2006 when 12 inches fell in KC?

We have not had 12" in the KC Metro in a long time.   Last area wide 6+" storm was 2002.

:(

My 13 yr old son is really disappointed, one thing he wanted for xmas was a snowboard, in which he ended up getting two, and low and behold, no snow.   It's not looking good for snow at all huh?

I recieved 20-21 inches in one storm December of 2006 (I think). It was awesome....a bob cat had to dig me out of my driveway for me to go to work 2 days later. We had to make a path for the god to do her business, :o). Ahhh what memories....I am hanging on to them, LOL!! I am not Metro KC but only about an hour south of you all.
Monica
Pleasanton, KS

Just drove from Raymore to Pittsburg, KS for some business meetings tomorrow.   Highway 71 from Belton to Lamar, MO wasn't too bad and I made good time, the precip didn't start until Nevada.  That being said, Highway 160 west from Lamar to Pittsburg was horrible and I was behind the salt truck!  3 wrecks in that 30 mile stretch of road and it took me over an hour.  From what I've heard, it's far worse further south towards Joplin.  I wouldn't do any travelling down south unless absolutely necessary and even then, I'd think about it some more.  I do hope it snows overnight because the roads are terribly greasy right now...

I am never surprised when there is talk of any chance of snow in KC and then nothing really happens.  

Its what it does here.  Its a joke

Gary---Against my worst intuition, I drove to OKC on business this morning..freezing drizzle started just south of the KS/OK line around 10AM and got worse as the day wore on..my car had 1.5 inches of ice on the wipers by the time I checked into my hotel (after kissing the ground when I arrived)...roads were treated early (thank God!!) ,but max speed on I-35 was 40MPH. Everything around here is cancelled EXCEPT the Bedlam Game in Stillwater....the radio said that admission tonight is FREE...guess they want to make a good show for TV.....just got logged into the my laptop and radar is showing precip moving NE with a small band moving through OKC now...nothing downstream looks to target OKC, so hoping for a better Tuesday....

We had 12+" Dec. 1, 2006 in Johnson Co, MO

Just some advice for everyone if it does snow: don't eat the yellow snow.

Still looks and feels like snow here in Kingsville, and the wind has picked up considerably.  Thanks for your update!

Laura

Blessings - where in JoCoMo do you live?  In Kingsville, we had that huge 12+" too - it was great!  There wasn't even a prayer of my getting to work that day!  So we just played in it with the dogs.  Laura

I agree with "sweetness" everything in the town seems disorganized and guaranteed disappointment. It looks like this storm is going to cause my business to miss out on about $900 tomorrow. My wallet is sobbing and my pockets weaping! If we don't get 3" than it better snow dollar bills instead of flakes!!

I wonder if anyone has considered doing a study of depression and if the weather can contribute to it.  I only say that because when it is COLD and BROWN if affects my mood.  I've lived in Minnesota and South Dakota, if its cold, there is white snow on the ground.  Just a thought.

Talked with my niece in Joplin at 2:45pm - It had been raining and was starting to freeze.  She was on her way home from school and saw one car slide out of control.  They let school out early and cancelled evening classes at the High School.  She was preparing to "hunker down".  Hope they don't lose power!!

Well I don't normally comment, but the weather is getting on my nerves. If it is going to snow I want snow that amounts to more than an inch. I am going to jump on the bandwagon of lets get this over with and move onto spring and summer. We always hope that the next winter will be better for us snow lovers, but I think this is as good as it is going to get. I hope that everyone south of us in the ice is ok and safe. I would never wish an ice storm on anyone.

I do have a question though, is this the active part of the "LRC"?

I reside in the Northland but I'm down in Joplin on a business trip.  It is like a ice skating rink down here.  I was on 32nd street by Freeman hospital and there was a handful of cars that couldn't get up the street.  I also seen about three cars that had slid and damaged the front end of their car on curbs.  It is pretty nasty down here.

Tinpusher -

It is called Seasonal Affective Disorder or something close to that.  

I know there wont be snow, me rating:

5"+      5%
5"        15%
4"        20%
3"        35%
2"        40%
1"        55%
<1"      40%

And I KNOW that dosen't add upp to 100%, Im just too bored for math right now.

Tinpusher - it's that seasonal affective disorder or something like that - it's been proven that it's mostly a winter disease, because it's brought on by lack of whatever you get from the sunshine, like in the summer.  They even make lights for it for people who have it bad - you sit under it for an hour a day!  

Beat me to it Luther!  lol

Bah Hum Bug some more I want snow, its like the old weather man's joke.

Do you know why the ladies in KC are mad at the weather men?

They keep promising 6 to 10 inches and only get one or two.

Intresting new Skyview cameras! Columbia, that's an intresting place to choose to put a camera. Outside of you viewing area.

what times do the new models come out?  Hubby is asking and I dont remember.
thanks
becky

sucky snow storms is all we get huh? I guess the snow total for the year will be far under what you predicted...but you never know what will happen in march.....

Gary,
A little thunder mixed in down here in SW MO.  Getting nasty, I hope you get to see a little snow.  The radar isn't looking the best right now.
Doug

My husband just called and sad it was starting to spit a little in Independence - I thought it was coming up from the south?????  Laura

Hi everyone. I read this blog often but have never posted. I just moved back to the Midwest (used to live in Des Moines) after being in Phoenix for the past 12 years. Boy did I miss winters!  Bummed that this is yet another storm missing KC but I am still hoping that Gary's winter forecast will hold true for around 20 inches this winter. I did want to give you a shout out Gary as I remember that during your winter forecast special you did say there would be one major ice storm to the south. Today looks like the day!

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Yes, it is that day. Let's see how major it is. It is definitely causing problems already.  And, thank you so much for participating.

Gary

So far so good here in Paola, not a drop or a flake, thank heavens as we do NOT need any precipitation.  Cold, icy winds outside.  My husband drove back from Iola earlier this afternoon and the roads were dry and quite manageable, sure hope it stays that way.  Fingers and toes will be crossed here in Paola for no snow and definitely no ice!
--deb

I'm thinking back to the Friday before last when it took only 4 or so hours to put out almost two inches (in OP) and how with this (non) event tonight and tomorrow it's going to be a struggle to squeeze even a half an inch out...sorry, just disappointed ramblings..

Snow picking up here in central Kansas(Salina). Very small flakes but the ground and streets are white.

Boo hoo! No snow to play in. I can't believe how little snow we are getting this winter. I'm especially bummed out because I'm moving to Florida in 2 weeks and was hoping to get a nice 4-6 in. snowfall, but chances are looking very slim. Oh well...

Kansas Patriot,
December 2005 was the last time KC came close to a foot of snow.  This is from the NWS for December 7, 2005. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/eax/events/dec072005/EAX-snow-0.png

"Tinpusher - it's that seasonal affective disorder or something like that - it's been proven that it's mostly a winter disease, because it's brought on by lack of whatever you get from the sunshine, like in the summer.  They even make lights for it for people who have it bad - you sit under it for an hour a day!  "  Hummer

Yeah, and I think it is more prevelent in the Northern states.  I remember studying in college.  Of course, that was 15 years ago.

This almost seems to be developing on top of the KC Metro area.  The radar returns seem to be changing size rather than actually moving in any particular direction.

It's vitamin D that you get from the sun that keeps your mood up in winter.  I try to get outside every day no matter what just to get some sunshine- if there is any; but I also take vitamin D supplements in the winter- seems to help!  Dea

I agree with Juba... We have a 210% of very little snow!

Which December disturbance does this relate to in the LRC?  I don't remember much between December 5-7?

Good evening everybody!!

I'm just checking in-we have had a mix of freezing drizzle/snow flurries here in SW Lawrence for about the last hour or so-it is extremely lite but the side walks and my street does have a thin coat of ice-very thin and probably just in spots.

Good luck to those in southern Missouri!!!

Have a great evening

Bill in Lawrence

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Bill,

Yeah, this is a tough one.  And, it isn't that surprising, but still very disappointing.  We may have one chance of snow during the morning on Tuesday and that could be it.

Gary

when does the new data come out and do you still think that we will have over average snowfall in Feberuary?

Ho Hum............

Just talked to my Dad outside of Branson. He said there's been numerous wrecks this evening already from the weather.  They're planning to stay in the house a couple of days at this point.

I think its time to roll up the carpet for this winter.  I do not think we will even get close to the 20in mark..  As for this storm I will be surprised if the KC metro even gets more than a couple of snow flakes, not even a dusting....  I guess we will have to wait for next year.   Also, I see it being a dry year. :(

So whats going on? Is it going to even snow now or what? It seems like you guys really have no clue.. Can you give us an update or something

Hey Gary,

Where is our snow, when we were on our way home we didn't see anythin but sprinkels on the windshield. where is it. you said it would be here by late afternoon into early evening hours right. where is it.

brad

BOOOOO!!!!!! :(

I think it's time to give up,throw in the towel,call it quits,or just plane stop thinking it's going to snow this season.

And here I was gearing up for my best season in many years.

Gary,
 You have done a great job with the winter forcast as far as temp swings and "calm" part and  "active" part (if you really want to call it that),but your snow forcast is a total bust.Sorry if I sound angry,but I am vary dissapointed.My work gets slow in the winter and it sounded like this was going to be a good season for snow removal,and it has turned out to be the worst for me in 15 years.   :(

This winter has just been boring, cold and blah. Let's get spring in here already!

Thanks guys for the info, I really never suffered from it, I'm just in the mindset that if it's cold, there should be snow...LOL!  Interesting to know that it has been studied, thank you both again for that info.  Now let it SNOW!!! : )

Oh, and looking at the latest models, I do not see an active pattern setting up for the first part of Feb.  The next, even remote, chance of measureable precip is not even untill the 240hr timeframe!

yeah the winter forecast was pretty horrible cant lie.... and i dont think any weatherstation got this flurrie event right. there will not be 1 inch any where in the viewing area

I think the next blog title should be " No signs of any snow, Winter Over"!

You guys seem surprised that yet ANOTHER storm has skirted the KC area!!  Come on people... this is the NORM for this area of the country.  

I'm still convinced that our geographic location in reference to the Rocky Mountains and Gulf of Mexico has SOMETHING to do with why we miss all the good storms.  Whether it's winter snow storms or spring severe weather, the 50 mile radius that is centered in downtown KC always sees the nasty/big stuff go right around us.  It will be heading in with huge potential, only to dry up, move past us and then reorganize.  It's almost like it loses it's Rocky Mountain influence, pauses (as it goes over KC) and the regains it's strength from the Gulf flow in Central Missouri (I know it's much more complicated than that, but you get my drift).  

This current storm is almost the icing on the cake for the KC area "missing out".  A huge snow and ice event south and southeast of here with wave #1 of the storm... while wave #2 is forecast to bring a very nice snow event 100 miles to our north.  It's happened so many times in our past... there HAS to be more than just coincidence to all of these misses.

I did not know mother nature felt the brunt of the bad economy , she has laid off the snow removal people.

FYI... just talked to my Mom who lives just south of the St Louis metro area.  They already have 3 inches on the ground and are expecting 6-10".  This will be their FOURTH 6"+ snowfall in the last two winters.  

Just got home from being out for a bit. My car was outside about 1-1/2 hours and there was a thin layer of ice on the windshield. Took a few minutes to get through it with de-icer and the wipers (no, I didn't have a scraper!). Fine freezing mist coming down consistently here in western Shawnee that's froze on the windshield as I drove home. Streets are wet but not slick so far as I can tell.

Just got home and there is pretty moderate freezing rain fall here on state line. couldnt see part of the way home because it was freezing instantly.. I heard nothing about freezing rain up here so idk what is going on

6-10 inches in St. Louis?? Not fair!! Looks like my chances of seeing a significant snowfall before I move to Florida isn't happening. I guess I'll just have to wait until I go on a ski trip to Colorado or something...

What a lame winter, spring might as well show up because winter never did.