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Dry to start Friday, June 19, 2009

Good morning bloggers,

Yesterday morning I showed you the risk for severe thunderstorms as put out by the SPC.  And, I was quite shocked at their moderate risk area, and again today I am rather surprised  at their moderate risk area given the weak front that exists.  I just think it should be smaller and farther east.  Here is yesterday's final storm reports with their early morning moderate risk area:

As Jeremy showed last night, and the above map updated for all of the storm reports as of 5 AM, this moderate risk was a major busted forecast by the SPC. And, today they have another huge moderate risk. We aren't in it but we are in a slight risk later today.  There is a slow moving and rather weak front heading our way.  And, there is a pretty good chance of thunderstorms later today. The main threat will be some hail, and some isolated areas that may receive damaging winds.  There has not been one tornado in our viewing area this week, but there have been a few areas of damage done by straight line wind events (Norborne and Drexel).  We will update the blog later on today as new data comes out.

From Jeremy's blog last night as he opened up the discussion on the busted SPC forecast:

This was something I noticed and wanted to pass along, so when you hear that there is a 'higher' chance of severe weather, the risk is still pretty low in any one location.  Keep in mind this can work the opposite way too, I've seen areas that have no risk end up having a tornado!  Severe weather is a tough beast to tame, but the challenge of forecasting is always fun!

For Friday the flow is unidirectional and the flow is fairly weak.  That should limit the tornado potential, but we could still see some strong to severe storms with the main threat being heavy rain, hail, and strong winds.  Here is the latest NAM forecast for late afternoon and early evening.

Another quick note.  If you read the comments regularly we obviously have 1 or 2 bloggers that are causing problems.  If you notice a post that should be removed or a blogger that should be removed please feel free to flag the comment and also email our webmaster Bill Smith  bsmith@nbcactionnews.com   He is trying to get a handle on the problem bloggers.

I am going to Portland, OR for the AMS Broadcast Conference next week.  Have a good weekend and when the thunderstorms form this afternoon we will be tracking them on NBC Action News tonight.  And, congratulations to Sportsradio 810 AM for being named radio station of the year.  I will be on there at 8 AM this morning, and again at 3:45 PM this afternoon for a couple of weather updates and some discussion on the weather for our sporting events.  Summer begins Sunday!

Gary, Jeremy, Brett, and Jeff

 

Published Friday, June 19, 2009 5:54 AM by glezak

Comments

 

kane1970 said:

What time frame are we looking at for storms. Great blog today!!
June 19, 2009 6:44 AM
 

Mammatus said:

The upper level wind fields progged for 4pm-8pm are quite strong.There is a fair amount of vertical shear today as well. I guess I'm just not ready to doubt the SPC yet. I do agree that the area is big but there is somehwhat of a decent setup today for some decent storms. They issue their risks for a reason and Iowa had extreme instabilty last night but the cap came into play. Today we will actually have a boundary which should help set off some severe Thunderstorms.

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Yes, a very weak boundary, but it is there.  I am not saying there isn't a risk of severe thunderstorms today, there is.  But, the risks have just been too high.

Gary

June 19, 2009 7:19 AM
 

davidmcg said:

Up here in McLouth we are starting to get a airly decent cloud deck beginning to form.  Cumulus clouds scattered in with the rest of the low lying thick clouds.  And its hot already and the dewpoint is racing on.  Gary, a request, when ya come back from Portland, leave the rain there.
June 19, 2009 7:55 AM
 

JPnKC said:

Hello Gary-

Experienced a "heat burst" the other night here in Central KS- it went from 83 degree at 11:11 PM to 100 degrees at midnight.. I have heard about these but never experienced one...

Looks like we are going to warm up the next week or so.....

Have a good weekend!

JP
June 19, 2009 8:00 AM
 

Luthur said:

Completely sunny on the drive in and now there are a bunch of low level popcornish clouds moving in.  Thickening up much like david mcg said.
June 19, 2009 8:14 AM
 

juba said:

Its nice outside right now, what will the drive be like to Mankato? Its NNNNE of salina. a few miles from the KS, NE border.
June 19, 2009 8:25 AM
 

Angie said:

Chances for rain all weekend....makes camping :(  

Can you time the rain out for the weekend?
June 19, 2009 9:15 AM
 

Craig said:

Mamma: Do you have CAPE values for today?
Someone earlier this week posted some great links for convective potential. Was it you? Either way, this may be our last fun day for a while.
June 19, 2009 9:30 AM
 

kane1970 said:

Is that rain just south of St. Jo the start of our rain? I hope it starts before 2:00. I don't know why but it just sounds good.

What are the "bad" bloggers doing? Profanity, or just being stupid? I really try to ignore anyone that does't have weather topics. I think you guys do a great job monitoring it. I never see anything really.

I love reading the blogs though. great learning experience.  
June 19, 2009 9:33 AM
 

whirlygirl said:

My friend is taking her baby to the Royals game. Should he wear a raincoat?
June 19, 2009 9:33 AM
 

marlina10 said:

Whew...it seems like each morning this week has just been stickier outside than the last. But I think I would pick hot and sticky any day over rainy and cool!
June 19, 2009 9:37 AM
 

Wolverine said:

Morning everyone in KC...   I have been talking to a few folks out here about the weather.  I have been told that this year's weather has had alot of twists and turns.  Was told that at one point there was about 3 feet of snow on the ground, there was flooding rains in March and early May (right before we got here)..  We have had about 2.40 inches of rain for the month so far.  The normal amount of rain for the first couple of weeks of June is like .37.   I asked about the if there had been wild swings on the temperatures this year and was told that yes, there had been some giant swings on temps.

Sure looks to me that the LRC is everywhere...

Gary - Have a great time in Portland next week..   By the way, Portland to have showers this weekend, clearing by Monday with temperatures in the low to mid 70's.
June 19, 2009 9:45 AM
 

Bizarro Jerry said:

for all this ripping on the storm prediction center, i sure don't remember seeing anyone around here question their forcast BEFORE the storms happened.  

there sure is a lot of mondy morning quarterbacking going on around here.

******************

Jerry,

The outlook I showed on the news last night had the moderate risk for today no where near Kansas City.  We pulled it well to the northeast.  SPC kept it right near KC.  So our forecasts do differ sometimes.  And wouldn't it be 'Friday Morning Quarterback' today:)

Jeremy

June 19, 2009 9:53 AM
 

mgsports said:

http://sirocco.accuweather.com/adc_images2/english/forecast/svrwx/400x300/US__todsvrwxrisk.gif by the KS/MO Line
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/pwo.html Big area's like Chicago,St. Louis,Dayton and so on will be affected.
I would say Strong Hail and Winds would be what we would get but can't rule out Tornado's with being in the 90's.
He doesn't want to have to come in and have to break in from a Program that's a new episode or take over a Newscast.
June 19, 2009 10:03 AM
 

kcwxguy said:

Some thoughts...

Interpretation is everything.  I for one still think the mod risk yesterday was warranted even with the storm reports shown.  Here is why...

There are many factors that a convective outlook include for determining risk.  The dominant is risk, and secondary is concentration.  If you just looked at the latter in yesterday's risk, I could agree with the team in saying that purely based on concentration of the risk, the mod risk was misplaced and perhaps over rated based on the output of the storm reports.

Per the SPC:

"Three risk categories (SLGT, MDT, and HIGH) are used to symbolize the coverage and intensity of the expected severe weather threat."

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/SPC_Prob_Conv_Otlk_Change_20060214.html

So, on this alone..it was a bust.  But...it is not the only consideration, nor is it the most weighted factor.  Much like forecasting from one attribute, the others will give a better picture of the environment.  You can't take one thing of many and make a statement of success/failure in this type of analysis.

The greater focus and more heavily weighted aspect of analysis in issuing convective outlooks is RISK not COVERAGE.  Look on the same page I linked above at the bottom.  The matrix defined based on probability what the outlook will be based on hail, wind, or tornadic potential.

So, yesterday, the moderate risk that is being noted as overstated or inaccurate must have had EITHER tornado -15%, wind - 45% or hail >45% measuring severe standards.

For yesterday's moderate risk as issued at 12Z,
Tornado - 10%...slight risk
Wind - 45%...moderate risk
Hail - 45%...marginal moderate risk

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/archive/2009/day1otlk_20090618_1200.html

So, based on the risk hatched areas based on their associated risks, the SPC NAILED this forecast.  Each storm risk verified based on the risk area.

So, I guess I want to assert that the risk elements are more specific to the individual elements [tornado/wind/hail] probabilities than the analysis of widespread initiation for convective outlooks.

Last though with this...the SPC, NWS, nor Gary can 100% predict exact location and time of initiation of thunderstorms.  In forecasting, you are analyzing the environment and likelihood of formation.  I won't chew up space on post analysis of that risk area yesterday regarding environment, but it seemed valid to me.

As far as today goes, I am interested in the boundary draped from NE MO across to just SW of the metro perhaps even hooking into the trough itself extending from the surface low from the SW

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satellite/displaySat.php?region=ICT&itype=vis&size=small&endDate=20090619&endTime=-1&duration=0

This may serve as a pre-frontal focus area for initiation.   Also, it seems the surface low near Amarillo has extended the frontal boundary/trough further SW than I was expecting.  The windshifts on the surface obs are more clear that progged than even yesterday.  

This looks to be out ahead of the main frontal boundary, and would watch this lead trough/boundary and the areas in between the two for initiation this afternoon, then focus on the main boundary for more threat this evening.

Whew!
June 19, 2009 10:04 AM
 

RDub said:

I would say the the SPC is generally very conservative in putting out the moderate risk area. They tend to include much more territory in the risk area than is needed. Today is a good example of that. The moderate risk area probably extends too far south and west.

But on the other hand, I certainly wouldn't call yesterday's forecast "a major bust" by any stretch.
June 19, 2009 10:36 AM
 

kane1970 said:

Sure looks like things are starting to ignite! looks like another great forecast. I wonder how large they will get? The one by Emporia looks like it is headed right for KC. Not very large yet but that can all change. It could just disappear.
June 19, 2009 10:57 AM
 

OPIchabod said:

Quick weather question: What's the difference (if there is) between a squall line and a bow echo?
June 19, 2009 11:05 AM
 

danno44 said:

June 19, 2009 11:07 AM
 

Luthur said:

And... we're off.  Did these fire earlier than expected?
June 19, 2009 11:07 AM
 

kane1970 said:

Wow it is quiet here?????
June 19, 2009 11:31 AM
 

Dwight said:

What ever the perceived risk, there is definitely a thunderstorm organizing to our southwest and moving this way.
June 19, 2009 11:36 AM
 

FairWeather007 said:

Well, because of the threat of storms, a picnic I was going to go to was cancelled. :( I'm going to be one sad puppy if it was for naught!

Keep up the good work!
June 19, 2009 11:52 AM
 

weatherwyco said:

Good afternoon team!!

Looks like storm initiation is underway here in Kansas City. According to latest discussion out of Kansas City, it appears that since outflow boundary and clouds have left virtually no cap, it is a free for all on the storms this afternoon. Sounds like the severe weather risk has been greatly reduced as well for our area. Well here is hoping for a nice soaking rain this afternoon!!

Bryan



http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KKSKANSA13
June 19, 2009 11:54 AM
 

ThunderHead said:

I say that we have quite an impressive day ahead today. :)

This morning I'm sure we all saw those storms up towards Nebraska and Iowa that were relatively impressive. As those weakened they sent out many outflow boundaries. It is quite impressive that all of these boundaries have almost came together to make one super large outflow boundary.

It looks like we are going to have many little garden variety storms pop up thru the area for the next couple hours. But really a watch is not needed at this moment as I think it will be atleast 2 or 3 hours before we have the ignition to lite these storms up like firecrackers. I say that simply for one reason and it being that we need a little more heat before they do much more.

Also as we go towards 3 hour away the cold front will come closer to KC but probably just a bit away. Because it looks like it will be on our heals right during our peak heat of the daytime it looks like we will experience some great prefrontal warming. That along with the outflow boundary draped across I70 we will see potential explosive development somewhere really close to KC. These could easily rotate with the remaining.

The SPC was very reasonable with their forecast today as it shows how these storms will form here and go along later.  We have a 5% risk for the isolated supercell that may form and then we have a 30% risk for wind which may happen with these cells today. Hail isn't as big of risk today.

This will be a good day to watch the cool pop up showers and storms and I cannot guarantee it because of the shitloads of variables. kcfoxguy summed it up with his risks but I must say I am confident in my forcast that goes along well with the risks.

You probably saw the MD and were thinking wrong if you dont know what your doing.

Here we go

THE THREAT FOR SEVERE STORMS CAPABLE OF MAINLY DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE ACROSS DISCUSSION AREA FROM LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON.  CONVECTIVE TRENDS ARE BEING MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE WW.
>>This is saying possibly and they are monitoring convective trends. This will most certain be not issued as storms are not firing and staying. It will be later if at all.
 
15Z MESOANALYSIS INDICATED A RATHER COMPLEX SURFACE PATTERN OWING TO THE PRESENCE OF RESIDUAL OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES REMNANT FROM NOCTURNAL TSTM ACTIVITY.  THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF THESE BOUNDARIES IS RATHER WELL-DEFINED /PER VISIBLE IMAGERY/ FROM NEAR OR JUST N OF THE MKC METRO AREA NEWD TO NEAR UIN.  RECENT TRENDS IN REGIONAL RADAR IMAGERY INDICATE TSTMS GRADUALLY INCREASING IN COVERAGE AND
INTENSITY FROM NE OF MKC TO NEAR IRK...LIKELY DUE TO ENHANCED
LOW-LEVEL ASCENT N OF OUTFLOW BOUNDARY ALONG 45 KT WSWLY LLJ /PER AREA PROFILERS AND VWPS/.  
>>Increasing in coverage yes but strength no.
 
  BASED ON 12Z TOP/SGF SOUNDINGS...INFLOW AIR MASS IS ALREADY
  MODERATELY UNSTABLE OWING TO THE PRESENCE OF A MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER AND MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES AROUND 7 C/KM.  THIS INSTABILITY IN
  CONJUNCTION WITH THE SUSTAINED LOW-LEVEL WAA AND INCREASED FORCING
  FOR ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH APPROACHING UPSTREAM SHORT WAVE TROUGH
  ALL SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A CONTINUED INCREASE IN STORM COVERAGE AND
  INTENSITY LATE THIS MORNING INTO AFTERNOON.
>>Once again not intense yet. They may get stronger soon as these conditions come.
 
  CURRENT LATHROP MO PROFILER IS LIKELY REPRESENTATIVE OF AMBIENT
  KINEMATIC ENVIRONMENT...FEATURING LARGELY UNIDIRECTIONAL DEEP WSWLY
  WIND FIELDS AND AROUND 50 KT OF DEEP-LAYER SHEAR.  AS SUCH...SETUP
  WILL FAVOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ORGANIZED STORMS INCLUDING BOWS AND
  PERHAPS SUPERCELL STRUCTURES CAPABLE OF MAINLY DAMAGING WINDS AND
  HAIL.
>>When the front makes the lifting and hits this outflow we will have good rotation.

There are my thinking.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1233.html
June 19, 2009 12:00 PM
 

bewild79 said:

weatherwyco,
why do you say that the severe risk has gone down?
becky
June 19, 2009 12:00 PM
 

ThunderHead said:

I say that we have quite an impressive day ahead today. :)

This morning I'm sure we all saw those storms up towards Nebraska and Iowa that were relatively impressive. As those weakened they sent out many outflow boundaries. It is quite impressive that all of these boundaries have almost came together to make one super large outflow boundary.

It looks like we are going to have many little garden variety storms pop up thru the area for the next couple hours. But really a watch is not needed at this moment as I think it will be atleast 2 or 3 hours before we have the ignition to lite these storms up like firecrackers. I say that simply for one reason and it being that we need a little more heat before they do much more.

Also as we go towards 3 hour away the cold front will come closer to KC but probably just a bit away. Because it looks like it will be on our heals right during our peak heat of the daytime it looks like we will experience some great prefrontal warming. That along with the outflow boundary draped across I70 we will see potential explosive development somewhere really close to KC. These could easily rotate with the remaining.

The SPC was very reasonable with their forecast today as it shows how these storms will form here and go along later.  We have a 5% risk for the isolated supercell that may form and then we have a 30% risk for wind which may happen with these cells today. Hail isn't as big of risk today.

This will be a good day to watch the cool pop up showers and storms and I cannot guarantee it because of the shitloads of variables. kcfoxguy summed it up with his risks but I must say I am confident in my forcast that goes along well with the risks.

You probably saw the MD and were thinking wrong if you dont know what your doing.

Here we go

THE THREAT FOR SEVERE STORMS CAPABLE OF MAINLY DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE ACROSS DISCUSSION AREA FROM LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON.  CONVECTIVE TRENDS ARE BEING MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE WW.
>>This is saying possibly and they are monitoring convective trends. This will most certain be not issued as storms are not firing and staying. It will be later if at all.
 
15Z MESOANALYSIS INDICATED A RATHER COMPLEX SURFACE PATTERN OWING TO THE PRESENCE OF RESIDUAL OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES REMNANT FROM NOCTURNAL TSTM ACTIVITY.  THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF THESE BOUNDARIES IS RATHER WELL-DEFINED /PER VISIBLE IMAGERY/ FROM NEAR OR JUST N OF THE MKC METRO AREA NEWD TO NEAR UIN.  RECENT TRENDS IN REGIONAL RADAR IMAGERY INDICATE TSTMS GRADUALLY INCREASING IN COVERAGE AND
INTENSITY FROM NE OF MKC TO NEAR IRK...LIKELY DUE TO ENHANCED
LOW-LEVEL ASCENT N OF OUTFLOW BOUNDARY ALONG 45 KT WSWLY LLJ /PER AREA PROFILERS AND VWPS/.  
>>Increasing in coverage yes but strength no.
 
  BASED ON 12Z TOP/SGF SOUNDINGS...INFLOW AIR MASS IS ALREADY
  MODERATELY UNSTABLE OWING TO THE PRESENCE OF A MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER AND MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES AROUND 7 C/KM.  THIS INSTABILITY IN
  CONJUNCTION WITH THE SUSTAINED LOW-LEVEL WAA AND INCREASED FORCING
  FOR ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH APPROACHING UPSTREAM SHORT WAVE TROUGH
  ALL SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A CONTINUED INCREASE IN STORM COVERAGE AND
  INTENSITY LATE THIS MORNING INTO AFTERNOON.
>>Once again not intense yet. They may get stronger soon as these conditions come.
 
  CURRENT LATHROP MO PROFILER IS LIKELY REPRESENTATIVE OF AMBIENT
  KINEMATIC ENVIRONMENT...FEATURING LARGELY UNIDIRECTIONAL DEEP WSWLY
  WIND FIELDS AND AROUND 50 KT OF DEEP-LAYER SHEAR.  AS SUCH...SETUP
  WILL FAVOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ORGANIZED STORMS INCLUDING BOWS AND
  PERHAPS SUPERCELL STRUCTURES CAPABLE OF MAINLY DAMAGING WINDS AND
  HAIL.
>>When the front makes the lifting and hits this outflow we will have good rotation.

There are my thinking.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1233.html

*** in Sedalia
June 19, 2009 12:00 PM
 

ThunderHead said:

That's odd It blocked out my name! lol

My first name is that of our former VP fyi. Just call me thunderhead.

June 19, 2009 12:09 PM
 

Aussie83 said:

Thanks for the good info TH.
June 19, 2009 12:16 PM
 

ScreamingYellowZonker said:

Where do you go to sign up to get phone alerts of severe weather?  Thanks?
June 19, 2009 12:24 PM
 

Grambo624 said:

For the person that asked earlier, a squall line is just a line of storms, a bow echo "bows" out to the right with damaging winds, sometimes sparking small tornadoes.
June 19, 2009 12:33 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

Weather Channel does them, NWS is still working on theirs.

Pete
June 19, 2009 12:34 PM
 

ThunderHead said:

Oh sorry here is the new spc forecast










































































































































































































http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html
June 19, 2009 12:38 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

Good afternoon all getting a light shower here in East Independence and i mean light and quick lasted all of 2 minutes
June 19, 2009 12:39 PM
 

weatherwyco said:

Becky-

In all honesty the convection that is already out there will continue to meander around the region. With this convection in the area it will not allow significant warming to take place in the upper levels of the atmosphere to hold a cap. We need somewhat of a cap in place to allow good heating to occur so we could then see explosive development of thunderstorms. Since the storms are in the area, the cap is weak, and storms will continue to form making a mess of the atmosphere for later in the day. Will the SPC issue a Severe Thunderstorm watch…possibly…do I think we will have some severe weather in the area? Not really, I think most of it is going to stay to the NE of the metro. But again…a couple of random severe thunderstorms would not surprise me. Also, freezing level is above 15K in most of the area. And like NWS said it is going to take some pretty big storms for us to reach severe criteria in hail formation.

Bryan

June 19, 2009 12:43 PM
 

ScreamingYellowZonker said:

Thanks Pete.
June 19, 2009 12:46 PM
 

bewild79 said:

Bryan,
Thanks...I am still trying to learn all of this so bear with me if I ask silly questions....lol
becky
June 19, 2009 12:53 PM
 

weatherwyco said:

Anytime Becky!!
June 19, 2009 12:59 PM
 

Craig said:

New MD from SPC says "watch likely", probably Severe Thunderstorm.
June 19, 2009 1:04 PM
 

Mammatus said:

My forecast is, Thunderstorms. All kidding aside, we need to watch to our Northwest for development. We should see some high wind events scattered about. Also, Like Scott said in a previous blog, there are scattered outflow boundaries so even though we have undirectional shear, anything interacting with outflow boundaries could have a better chance of low level rotation/brief spinup. High winds most likely, large hail somewhat possible, Tornado threat, maybe, maybe not.
Sheesh, I am in a way glad I'm not a meteorologist.
June 19, 2009 1:06 PM
 

kcwxguy said:

In doing more analysis, it appears much of the remnant outflow that had the meso is gone now..and not much happened there.  I am losing hope for much of anything in the area tonight, even along the front later.

In looking at the sounding progs, it appears from about 20-0Z, we begin to get robbed of our moisture.  My first thought was to look for some type of dryline, but not seeing that as a factor..

In looking harder, it appears that our winds will begin veering every so slightly more westerly in the next few hours.  This will shunt the moisture transport for us.  The surface moisture to our west is much drier than here.

With decreasing dewpoints, instability will drop.  With less instability, CINH [cap] will have time to build a bit.  By the time the front gets here, we may not have a huge amount of instability to work with, not much surface convergence, and a bit of cap to overcome.

The only hope for any development will have to come from speed shear.  There is no veering with height today.  Things look much better to the east and northeast today.

With this front stalling nearby again..and continuing the troughing in the West, I can see more chances of thunderstorms tomorrow.

I had a big blog about two or three weeks ago about how things have panned out this year with the periods of precipitation..I won't repost it, but I mentioned the last week of June to look for.  I am looking in this period for the energy out of the West to finally exit and move into the Central Plains before getting sucked up into the Hudson Bay.  During that week or so, we should again have some severe chances.

While the mid level
June 19, 2009 1:17 PM
 

stormhammer76 said:

Thunderhead - just curious, whats with all the space on your posts?

Pete
June 19, 2009 1:17 PM
 

kane1970 said:

Just look at what thunderhead said his first name was.. j/k

Anyway everything looks pretty boring. wish it wasn't so!
June 19, 2009 1:35 PM
 

kane1970 said:

Think there will be any rain at all???????????????????????????????? I hope so. It jsu feels like a storm is coming in. Sky is getting dark at 435 ans 95th. The wind is howling.

Every one make a prediction before the next blog......
Rain or no rain. Well you couldpredict anything if you water. lol
June 19, 2009 1:41 PM
 

bewild79 said:

STW to the north of platte county....I hope we can get a little of exciting weather here....
becky
June 19, 2009 1:49 PM
 

Kumke Weather said:

yes. Because its raining in olathe
June 19, 2009 1:51 PM
 

Mammatus said:

Heres a big :-( to our severe weather season. Of course all these clouds and light precip had to ruin our instability. Why couldn't we have had yesterday and the day before's 6000-6500 Cape and the front we have today to light the powderkeg. I'm disgusted.
June 19, 2009 1:56 PM
 

Luthur said:

Yes. Because it is raining in SE Leavenworth Co. I win!

I suppose this puts the stops to any severe weather today in my neck of the woods?
June 19, 2009 2:01 PM
 

Mammatus said:

Ok, we still have roughly a 2500-3000 J/kg Cape, some shear and a weak front that still has to come thru. Anything can happen, Right? There is a Tornadic supercell in southeastern Nebraska or there was a few minutes ago. I won't hold my breath and then something is sure to happen to make Friday evening more exciting.
June 19, 2009 2:09 PM
 

spooky said:

While you're all busy censoring, how about getting rid of the knuckleheads who don't know how to paste a link.  They either use up 3 internet pages of space to paste statements from another website or they paste a mile-long link that screws up the entire page.

I would imagine by the end of the month you'll have all the LRC dissenters banned.

********************

Spooky,

We make the rules since it is our blog, if you want a free for all this isn't the place.  We've gone over this before, so the rules are pretty cut and dry. 

Jeremy 

June 19, 2009 2:11 PM
 

kane1970 said:

JUST RAIN. That is all that I want. Don't care about big storms anymore. But what is the LLTI in affect yet? That could just change everything! Sun is out and bright at 435 and 95th.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                               
                       
                               
                               
                                                         
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June 19, 2009 2:17 PM
 

Luthur said:

Well, the rain here ended quickly.  The driveway was barely wet.

Oh well.  I will just sit back and enjoy watching Mammatus going through the stages of denial.  ;)
June 19, 2009 2:19 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

Thunderhead thanks for the info you provide. Could you please try not to use "bad language" as kids do read the blog thanks.
June 19, 2009 2:22 PM
 

Tony Baker said:

What happened to the MD for our area? SPC doesn't have it posted. Hummm.
June 19, 2009 2:31 PM
 

bewild79 said:

tony,
the MD barely had us in it and it turned into the watch that is to the north of us...
becky
June 19, 2009 2:34 PM
 

Aussie83 said:

Guess we should be looking to late June now as kcwxguy has alluded too, so it may not be over just yet!
June 19, 2009 2:37 PM
 

Luthur said:

Wx Team -

Not to sound like one of those people that constantly complain about weather cut-ins during programming, but could you all move the weather map that is on screen now to the top right of the screen.  I'm watching the US Open and a few times the map has blocked out the hole during puts, thus not being able to see the last few feet.

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I hear ya, but then we would have to move it for every show.  The bug stays in the same spot...sorry.

Jeremy

June 19, 2009 2:42 PM
 

kane1970 said:

got to know...... is it gonna rain?
come on guys lets keep it nice and weather related please!
June 19, 2009 2:46 PM
 

Kumke Weather said:

I agree with sports
June 19, 2009 2:49 PM
 

kane1970 said:

HI Jeremy,
Sorry I should not have said anything.
Anyway how about an update on the weather. Whats your thoughts for the metro area? Thanks
June 19, 2009 2:50 PM
 

PreferNFLBucs said:

The problem I have with railing on the SPC is simple....the risk is there to begin with.  Further, EVERY time you hear the verbage on a watch issuance, it is ALWAYS stated with the phrase "persons IN or CLOSE TO the watch area....."  And yes, the SPC indeed DOES broadbrush areas of slight, moderate, and high risks.  I find it somewhat annoying that time is being spent criticizing the SPC.  I don't know the exact numbers, but I believe that I once heard that in any severe weather watch issued, the percentage of the time that severe weather occurs within the area is quite high.

I am not here to bash on anyone, so don't take it as such.  But as much as the KSHB team doesn't want to be criticized, I'd guess the SPC feels the same way.

Frankly, I commend the SPC for the job they do.  There was a little episode in Kansas City weather lore that occurred back in 1957 when we had no SPC or Doppler. etc.  The survivors of that day from Ruskin Heights would, I am sure, delight in having had the SPC in 1957.

In conclusion, if you do not want to be criticized, don't criticize others.  Seems simple enough to me.

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Bucs,

I think it is fair to show how the SPC faired since it is their forecast that is generally accepted by the public and only they can issue watches.  I wouldn't want their job and they are good at it, but I don't think pointing out how a moderate risk never panned out as being out of line.

Jeremy

June 19, 2009 2:57 PM
 

sportsfreaked said:

I would imagine that the clouds keeping our temps down below 90 is going to limit our chances for any big storms to form. I would like to hear from some of the more advanced bloggers as to what they think. I think we will have storms when the cold front slides thru but the chnaces for severe storms seem to be diminishing.
June 19, 2009 3:02 PM
 

Luthur said:

"I hear ya, but then we would have to move it for every show.  The bug stays in the same spot...sorry."  Jeremy

Makes sense.  I don't know how the technology works.  Hehe, I'm not even that big of a golf fan.  Just home from work. Thanks.
June 19, 2009 3:11 PM
 

weatherfreak01 said:

I for one and not totally sold on the chances for severe weather today. I am starting to doubt we will even get rain. I might be totally wrong.. Time will tell.
Audra in Lee's Summit.
June 19, 2009 3:27 PM
 

FairSkys said:

I was outside working in the garden a bit, and it's blowing pretty good out there, the odd thing is for a few minutes I'd get blasted with a pocket of REALLY hot & humid air, then a few minutes later it's moderate and get cooler again.  That went on back and forth for a good hour.  Kind of strange, never felt it go back and forth like that before.
June 19, 2009 3:27 PM
 

bewild79 said:

I know that the DP has gone down from 75 to 68 in an hour.... :(  I wanted a little excitement tonight.  Just like winter....all around us, but not quite here...
becky
June 19, 2009 3:34 PM
 

kane1970 said:

I think our best chances are from 8:00 to 11:00. Just Rain nothing major! Just guessing. Have a great weekend!
June 19, 2009 3:42 PM
 

Craig said:

Wow, even the LLTI failed us today. Severe weather season must officially be kaput.
June 19, 2009 3:46 PM
 

Amos said:

Severe Chances are dwindling by the second now; it's almost like a dryline moved in for you guys! I'm at the lake, and it is still quite hot and sticky!

After this last potential chance Scott has advised us of in late June, I will personally be ready for 7 degrees and a foot of snow!
June 19, 2009 3:52 PM
 

Trainerman said:

I have a weather question for any of the meteorologists if you would please.  

Does a thunderstorm crossing over a major river such as the Missouri or Mississippi have any effect on it.  Either weaken or strengthen it?

Thanks for your time.

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Rivers have no effect.  In the winter I did see river effect snow one time...it was crazy!

Jeremy

June 19, 2009 3:58 PM
 

Zazel said:

Severe weather season never even started this year.
June 19, 2009 4:01 PM
 

chieffan07 said:

Hello everyone. Does anybody know when our threat of severe weather will end for today, if there is one? Should we expect storms into the overnight hours or will they go away before then?

Thank you
June 19, 2009 4:10 PM
 

Amos said:

Trainerman-
I'm not a licensed meteorologist, but with the small sizes of those bodies of water, they would have no notable effect.

Bigger bodies of water like the great lakes and oceans do have an effect though.

I've heard this, and also saw it, but rarely, and I emphasize "rarely", but occasionally, small bodies like the Lake of the Ozarks will produce their own lake effect snow, but it has never piled up more than a dusting since the lake is so small.

In terms of rivers for your question, those big rivers would have no effect on severe weather.
June 19, 2009 4:11 PM
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