If You Don't Like The Weather

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Lillyanya — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:04:01 GMT

This weather has been AMAZING! I can't wait for more. :) Winter isn't too far away, hopefully it starts early this year! **** It might, but we're not ready to make any predictions yet! Brett

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HarryB — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:34:54 GMT

Emptied my rain guage. 1.45" , Tuesday had .66" for total of 2.11" in Blue Springs. ***Thanks for the update, Brett

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weatherfreak01 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:51:11 GMT

Have the trees by anyone else started to turn yet. The ones by me have started to get their fall colors. Yesterday I noticed a few trees trying to turn on the 7 in Blue Springs.
Audra in Lee's Summit

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jacob — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:58:22 GMT

I got up to to go school today at 5:00 and it was amazing outside. I love this nice fall like weather. I really hope that winter comes early this year! That would be really nice.

I'm not lieing here...my neighbor's tree is already changing colors. A large part of the tree is red! It really pumps me up for whats to come!

I know...I've lost my mind! Oh well...

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Larry2KCDaily — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:01:14 GMT

Patchy fog? I must of hit all the patches driving from southwest Lawrence to downtown KCK this morning. The fog in Lawrence at 6:45 or so was very thick and driving conditions lousy. The drive down I-70 into downtown was not pretty at all. Once I hit Strawberry Hill etc it seemed the fog magically lifted.

I absolutely love this taste of fall. More cool weather please.

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johnj — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:14:47 GMT

When does the snow contest begin? Maybe you shouldn't wait too long! lol *** It may be over before it starts, which is typically mid-November.

Brett

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marlina10 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:17:15 GMT

I'm loving this weather, too! Hopefully we'll have great fall colors in the leaves this year.

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A dogg — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:01:06 GMT

Finally had a chance to look at the rain gauge, 2 inches in Drexel.

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HummerSeeker — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:06:47 GMT

Since there isn't much else going on I have a technical question - I think I asked it before but didn't get an answer that I saw. Is it true that on the other side of the equator hurricanes spin CLOCKWISE and toilets flush in the opposite direction? From us that is. And would that be because of gravitational pull? Laura

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f00dl3 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:26:07 GMT

The weather pattern we are in right now reminds me of a winter weather pattern. If we can have a few stretches of weather this winter with conditions like this... we may be in for a treat. What really intrigues me is the fact that the leftovers of Gustav really developed nicely into the cold front that moved through our area. I can only dream what would happen with a powerhouse December or January low taking a nice track over the Springfield area (maybe a tad bit north) when our temperatures are a bit colder.

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pvt_murphy — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:33:24 GMT

you are correct laura. the magnetic pull at the south pole is different than the pull we experience from the north pole. the earth is one big magnet. with the poles representing the + and - sides.

i have noticed some trees with red leaves as well, more with yellow...not really brown, which would suggest dry conditions...

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Luthur — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:20:06 GMT

What is that big blob of rain coming at us?

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Looks about like what I showed on Powercast last night. Should continue to weaken, but some areas north and south of KC will see some showers.

Jeremy

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Nick Rau — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:53:12 GMT

Laura, It is true that hurricanes, and other areas of low pressure spin clockwise in the southern hemisphere, the reason is something called the Coriolis effect, simply put it is due to the rotation of the earth causing curving of the winds, as for toilets, ect. flushing differently, I'm not so sure as those are way to small for the Coriolis effect to be of significance, if you want more info I would suggest "Googling" or wikipedia Coriolis. Be careful with wiki though.

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Watkins Gal — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:53:19 GMT

2.25" rain total for the latest "event" north of Lawson. Enjoyed the fog this morning and then the sunny skies...now the clouds are rolling back in. I am excited at the thought of actually having a true fall season this year...not a week between summer and winter. Give the HVAC system a big break! Temps today are perfect in my opinion!

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Still in the 60s today in many spots...not perfect in my book:) Still love the 70s and 80s. Don't wish for fall quite yet...that means winter is sure to follow.

Jeremy

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Nick Rau — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:03:31 GMT

hey it's raining here in St. Joe, the 4TH DAY IN A ROW where some liquid has fallen from the sky!!

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KansasPatriot — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:05:40 GMT

October 25th for the first snow I predict.

Correct me if I am wrong on these facts for Kansas City:

Earliest snow: September 23rd 1895
Earliest frost: September 19th 1991
Most snow in a season: 1978-79 33.4 inches.

Fun map:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/multi_season/13_seasonal_outlooks/color/page2.gif

Kansas City climate extremes for October:

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/eax/?n=kcrecnorm-oct

If you look at the minimum temps you can see a cold streak in the 20's we had back in 2000, and went below freezing in 1985 at 31.

On the contrary, we have had a hot October before wth an October 1st high of 92! That was in 2002. However, the way things are going I dont think we will be in the hot zone!

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Dwxtracker — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:17:41 GMT

Laura, the swirling of toilets or hurricanes have nothing to do with gravitational pull:
Some facts about the Coriolis effect:

A misconception in popular culture is that water in bathtubs or toilets always drains in one direction in the Northern Hemisphere, and in the other direction in the Southern Hemisphere as a consequence of the Coriolis effect. This idea has been perpetuated by several television programs, including an episode of The Simpsons and one of The X-Files.[18] In addition, several science broadcasts and publications (including at least one college-level physics textbook) have made this incorrect statement.

Perhaps the most important instance of the Coriolis effect is in the large-scale dynamics of the oceans and the atmosphere. In meteorology and ocean science, it is convenient to use a rotating frame of reference where the Earth is stationary. The fictitious centrifugal and Coriolis forces must then be introduced. Their relative importance is determined by the Rossby number. Tornadoes have a high Rossby number, so Coriolis forces are unimportant, and are not discussed here.[22] As discussed next, low-pressure areas are phenomena where Coriolis forces are significant.

If a low-pressure area forms in the atmosphere, air will tend to flow in towards it, but will be deflected perpendicular to its velocity by the Coriolis acceleration. A system of equilibrium can then establish itself creating circular movement, or a cyclonic flow. Because the Rossby number is low, the force balance is largely between the pressure gradient force acting towards the low-pressure area and the Coriolis force acting away from the center of the low pressure.

Instead of flowing down the gradient, large scale motions in the atmosphere and ocean tend to occur perpendicular to the pressure gradient. This is known as geostrophic flow. On a non-rotating planet fluid would flow along the straightest possible line, quickly eliminating pressure gradients. Note that the geostrophic balance is thus very different from the case of "inertial motions" (see below) which explains why mid-latitude cyclones are larger by an order of magnitude than inertial circle flow would be.

This pattern of deflection, and the direction of movement, is called Buys-Ballot's law. In the atmosphere, the pattern of flow is called a cyclone. In the Northern Hemisphere the direction of movement around a low-pressure area is counterclockwise. In the Southern Hemisphere, the direction of movement is clockwise because the rotational dynamics is a mirror image there. At high altitudes, outward-spreading air rotates in the opposite direction. Cyclones rarely form along the equator due to the weak Coriolis effect present in this region."

No, I didn't write this, :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

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kcwxguy — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:25:15 GMT

Laura/Murph,

I might have gone more with the Coriolis Effect opposed to the gravity answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect#Coriolis_effects_in_meteorology

Also, you can get an answer to your toilet question...LOL

F00dl3, keep an eye on where these waves passing by are digging and rising. That will be a strong indication of what to expect. Based on what I am seeing for the last week or so, I am going with the long term longwave moving west.

Looks to me the longwave has moved from the Mississippi river area to nearly overhead.

Patriot - based on the observations I put for F00dl3, I am expecting a colder than average fall/winter. I believe the CPC is going to miss again on this.

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kcwxguy — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:25:39 GMT

Doh! Dwx beat me to it. LOL

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pvt_murphy — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:33:53 GMT

i wouldnt say gravity as much as magnetic forces at the poles.

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C in Raymore — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:24:47 GMT

Laura- I had also heard that about toliets. I was sure it was true but when my in laws moved to Zambia, they proved me wrong. Funny we all hear that stuff..

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Zazel — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:00:07 GMT

Heh. What are you guys doing looking into the toilet anyway?!

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HummerSeeker — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:12:28 GMT

Thank you DWX on the explanation! Makes total sense to me! LOL. But at least now I can tell my mom she's wrong! First time in my whole 49 years that she's ever been wrong! :) Thank you though - it made sense to me, but I didn't nkow why.